Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: AchtSieben WT Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:18 pm | |
| tl;dr: I want your opinion on this build for AchtSieben WT please. Story: I had this guy sitting in my garage since before the Initium gara. Since there weren't a lot of AIRs around (And I hated the flamethrower AMs), I stuffed it in my sub-garage never expecting to use it except for spare parts. I was scrounging around my sub-garage and found it, and I thought "Why did I stuff this away again?" I used it a few matches, and thanks to the now-heavy AIR meta, I like it quite a lot, so I decided to start using it. I looked at his carts, and they're pretty good. Here's what I have so far for my build, I want your comments on it: - Current Build:
【Robot Name】 Sub-Saggitarius
【Parts】 BD: AchtSieben BD2 : Dual Rifle Bit : Achtsieben LG : Gun Arms HD : Cute Beret [High Run] : Flower Pop [High Run Alpha] : Achtsieben BS : Tentrion AM [High Run] [High Boost Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [Boost] : Tentrion AM [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [Boost] [Boost] : AchtSieben BD2@
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 865 CAPA: 865 HP: 409 STR: 5 TEC: 19 WLK: 29 FLY: 13 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 6
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×2 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Short Boost Boost Run
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×3 Fudara Cosmos×7 Red Chip×10 Yellow Chip×10 Green Chip×30 Engine Shaft×53 Turbo Charger×25 Drum Magazine×6 Snail Liquid×43
This is how I want it to turn out. - Planned Build:
【Robot Name】 Sub-Saggitarius
【Parts】 BD: AchtSieben BD2 : Missile Bit(Default) : Achtsieben LG [High Run Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Gun Arms HD [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Cute Beret [High Run] : Flower Pop [High Run Alpha] : Achtsieben BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Tentrion AM [High Run] [High Boost Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Tentrion AM [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [Boost] [Boost] [High Boost Beta] : AchtSieben BD2@
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1040 CAPA: 1075 HP: 445 STR: 0 TEC: 19 WLK: 38 FLY: 15 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Short Boost Boost Run Quick Land
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×19 Red Chip×35 Yellow Chip×35 Green Chip×100 Engine Shaft×116 Turbo Charger×45 Drum Magazine×21 Snail Liquid×92
Note that two EIWs makes the railgun have 32 Force, 300 Ammo, 370 Range, and 560 Speed, so that's why I got them. And the reason why I want to make the WLK and FLY so high for Boost Running is because I want to be able to outrun almost anything. I have 300 ammo and do 60s to air, so I didn't think I needed any more TEC than this. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: AchtSieben WT Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:31 pm | |
| 【Robot Name】 We're no strangers to love
【Parts】 BD: AchtSieben BD2 : Missile Bit(default) : Jack Gadget LG2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Geminion HD2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Volcanics BS [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] : Vector AM [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] : Dancing Maracas [Run] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Vector AM [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] : - : AchtSieben BD2@
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1080 CAPA: 1080 HP: 400 STR: -5 TEC: 33 WLK: 40 FLY: 17 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Short Boost Boost Run Quick Land
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×18 Red Chip×90 Stabilizer×81 Engine Shaft×122 Guide Circuit×63 Snail Liquid×99
You know the rules, and so do I | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: AchtSieben WT Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:33 pm | |
| - Trill wrote:
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 We're no strangers to love
【Parts】 BD: AchtSieben BD2 : Missile Bit(default) : Jack Gadget LG2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Geminion HD2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Volcanics BS [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] : Vector AM [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] : Dancing Maracas [Run] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Vector AM [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] : - : AchtSieben BD2@
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1080 CAPA: 1080 HP: 400 STR: -5 TEC: 33 WLK: 40 FLY: 17 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Short Boost Boost Run Quick Land
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×18 Red Chip×90 Stabilizer×81 Engine Shaft×122 Guide Circuit×63 Snail Liquid×99
You know the rules, and so do I
XD I don't have ANY of those parts except the accessories and the BD | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: AchtSieben WT Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:36 pm | |
| Then just go into calc and find whatever parts that give as much wlk/fly for as low cost as possible. I could list out UC alternatives but you've charged a bit of RT from what I can tell and I'm pretty certain you'd have better than just UC parts. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: AchtSieben WT Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:03 pm | |
| >Acht WT >Good carts are you sure you're looking at the right core As I've said numerous times before there isn't really any reason to use WT aside from the fact that he can easily max stats without the crippling cost that usually comes with Linear Cannons. The fact that with x2 eiw the rail's weaker than even an untuned Linear - and still has the pre-buff charge time on top of that - makes it pretty garbage compared to what it could be. I mean, just as an example you could do something like this and have both shorter charge times and hit airs for like ~150s, not to mention having (actually) good carts like broad radar and quick jump, and beam guard to resist Novas: - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Gun Arms
【Parts】 BD: Gun Arms BD : Sword Bit : Jack Gadget LG [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Aquila Airs HD [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Beta] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Volcanics BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Linear Cannon Mod [Great Force Beta] [Great Force Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1190 CAPA: 1190 HP: 404 STR: -14 TEC: 33 WLK: 1 FLY: 34 TGH: 15
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×6 Beam Guard Short Boost Quick Jump Broad Radar Accele Roll
I guess I should also note though that if you do stick with WT you're better off pumping tec; you don't need much wlk to outrun things with railgun recoil/stun + boost run. | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: AchtSieben WT Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:36 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- >Acht WT
>Good carts
are you sure you're looking at the right core
As I've said numerous times before there isn't really any reason to use WT aside from the fact that he can easily max stats without the crippling cost that usually comes with Linear Cannons. The fact that with x2 eiw the rail's weaker than even an untuned Linear - and still has the pre-buff charge time on top of that - makes it pretty garbage compared to what it could be.
I mean, just as an example you could do something like this and have both shorter charge times and hit airs for like ~150s, not to mention having (actually) good carts like broad radar and quick jump, and beam guard to resist Novas:
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Gun Arms
【Parts】 BD: Gun Arms BD : Sword Bit : Jack Gadget LG [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Aquila Airs HD [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Beta] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Volcanics BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Linear Cannon Mod [Great Force Beta] [Great Force Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1190 CAPA: 1190 HP: 404 STR: -14 TEC: 33 WLK: 1 FLY: 34 TGH: 15
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×6 Beam Guard Short Boost Quick Jump Broad Radar Accele Roll
I guess I should also note though that if you do stick with WT you're better off pumping tec; you don't need much wlk to outrun things with railgun recoil/stun + boost run. Thanks, but I already have a Victory 1 Linear Cannon build fully carted and tuned, so I'm trying to make AchtSieben WT work as well. I'll keep the last part you said in mind though. | |
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IncuSlave Regular Poster
Posts : 461 Join date : 2012-02-14
| Subject: Re: AchtSieben WT Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:31 am | |
| I have a WT, but I always found the charge time disorienting, so I never used it much. However, I'd say that a smaller profile would be nice for SB. | |
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