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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 8:51 am

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Oh yeah Eihwaz is the name of the song near the end. :3
I know. I was skeptical of the griffon thing's name when the song name came up.

And yes, I want the song. Badly.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 8:56 am

The beam reminds me of Berserk Fury's Charged Particle Cannon (Already watched the video lol.... and i still have it loaded)

>Her Wings probably are Floating Psy Guns o_o.
>Her Innate (BD Special) would probably Zero Step o.o (If so, her cannon + that = die you airs!) - Because of her quickness
>Since Lily's more of a FLY type than a WLK type, i expect a large boost in her FLY Stat, and prolly balanced out STR and TEC


We'll find out more tommorow

Though i am kinda hearing some sort of Promoted Lily vs Dark Gryphonoid Fembot tommorow (Sorta like Ouka vs that giant katana bot)
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 9:00 am

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\Though i am kinda hearing some sort of Promoted Lily vs Dark Gryphonoid Fembot tommorow (Sorta like Ouka vs that giant katana bot)

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CALLING IT: IT'S A MISSION.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 9:04 am

we'll see. let's check at around 12:00PM +7GMT (JST) Very Happy and i'll keep a look out for events.

oops almost forgot, i got work tommorow *facepalm* guess i'll check it at around 6:00PM +7GMT :<
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 9:14 am

rei_hunter wrote:
The beam reminds me of Berserk Fury's Charged Particle Cannon (Already watched the video lol.... and i still have it loaded)

>Her Wings probably are Floating Psy Guns o_o.
>Her Innate (BD Special) would probably Zero Step o.o (If so, her cannon + that = die you airs!) - Because of her quickness
>Since Lily's more of a FLY type than a WLK type, i expect a large boost in her FLY Stat, and prolly balanced out STR and TEC


We'll find out more tommorow

Though i am kinda hearing some sort of Promoted Lily vs Dark Gryphonoid Fembot tommorow (Sorta like Ouka vs that giant katana bot)

Gyphonoid Fembot's nickname is, as mentioned earlier, "Harpy Girl" (Hapiko).

NovaZero wrote:
What we know of "Ancient" Lily so far:

-Beam Cannon is summonable, a la "Sacrifice"
-Beam Cannon is a freaking portable ion cannon.
-"Ancient" Lily can move at supersonic speeds, evident by the fact that she was already at point-blank range all while the griffon thing was busy blocking the first beam. Do note that not only did the griffon thing not notice Lily until she was point-blank, Lily was in front of Eihwaz that whole time.

Lily took a level in Badass.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 9:32 am

I'm starting to predict everyone calling foul on Lily now for getting a "broken" ion cannon.

Just like when they used to call Ivis broken because of Sacrifice~
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 9:51 am

Considering CBEN's love of artillery (anyone remember OBT1?), I don't think it will be as severe over here.

(on a side note lets say Lily learned Flash Step.)
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 11:09 am

okay, I JUST got to viewing the video, two words "HOOOOOLY SHIT!" I'm guessing the cannon will play out differently in game, and that she won't have supersonic speeds for players, though with how long it took Eihwaz to deflect that beam she did have plenty of time to advance. Also note that the beam took time to charge, Eihwaz was just a dummy for sitting still while it charged. I'm expecting something like sacrifice for the summoning part, but a charging weapon that is similar to the Rail-gun on the Shop Sagittarius's body, though probably less damaging. I'm also hoping for the standard Psy-guns in those wing looking parts of hers though maybe 6 shots for a little less per shot damage but slightly more more overall damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 11:26 am

I think it could make a bit of sense if promo'd Lily gets Boost Run.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 12:05 pm

HashiriyaR32 wrote:
I think it could make a bit of sense if promo'd Lily gets Boost Run.

Aye, and that would explain her closing the distance more than the time it took Eihwaz to deflect the shot alone would.

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I'm starting to predict everyone calling foul on Lily now for getting a "broken" ion cannon.

Just like when they used to call Ivis broken because of Sacrifice~

UH, what ion cannon has 7 hit instant stun lock? it wouldn't be unlikely that people will bitch, but just based on the video I don't think it's too likely, after all that would have been a top level Lily Promo, not like we'll start out with.


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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 12:09 pm

But she already has float dash, why would she need Boost run?
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Ichijo wrote:
But she already has float dash, why would she need Boost run?

I think HashiriyaR32 was saying that would explain her closing the distance so quickly, especially with Eihwaz having to deflect that first shot.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 12:19 pm

Andaros wrote:
UH, what ion cannon has 7 hit instant stun lock? it wouldn't be unlikely that people will bitch, but just based on the video I don't think it's too likely, after all that would have been a top level Lily Promo, not like we'll start out with.
I'm just saying that a gun that powerful might be a little too broken, assuming the gun will be that powerful at all. It may not be an 8 hit combo of death, but it may as well be a long range Jet Hammer or worse, practically OHKO.

And though it will take longer to achieve due to it requiring a Lv. 8 Lily Rain and a Lily Rain Promo, it is much less of a hassle than gambling for Ivis. It may take a while, but she is certain.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 12:30 pm

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Andaros wrote:
UH, what ion cannon has 7 hit instant stun lock? it wouldn't be unlikely that people will bitch, but just based on the video I don't think it's too likely, after all that would have been a top level Lily Promo, not like we'll start out with.
I'm just saying that a gun that powerful might be a little too broken, assuming the gun will be that powerful at all. It may not be an 8 hit combo of death, but it may as well be a long range Jet Hammer or worse, practically OHKO.

And though it will take longer to achieve due to it requiring a Lv. 8 Lily Rain and a Lily Rain Promo, it is much less of a hassle than gambling for Ivis. It may take a while, but she is certain.

I'd also assume that you get your promoted bot up to a sufficient level as well, at first she'll be shot back down to rather basic stats even if she is better than a basic Lily. Also, there are plenty of ranged weapons that OHKO anyway, well, at least if you head-shot the person. I'd assume she'd at best match a Sag Rail-gun on that arm, we'll have to see of course, when someone gets the goods let us know!!! I do almost have the level on my Lily for it, but not the RT lol, I always forget to collect my monthly RT or am dumb and spend it, this will give me a reason to be a bit of a miser and save up the funds, I suppose.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 2:18 pm

dude, ever consider the fact that this might be a mini-wizdom charge cannon?
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 2:32 pm

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dude, ever consider the fact that this might be a mini-wizdom charge cannon?

hmmmmmmm, nope, never crossed my mind, I don't think they'd be that generous. I'd laugh if they bring out Mini ARKS after this though and I get my ass handed to me by a real mini Wisdom charge cannon. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 2:33 pm

I smell some sort of power laser that nobody will want to use cause of the laser nerf.... well.. it will prolly be popular in EN at least...

Oh and after seeing the video I like lily.. 10% more now Mad.. which isn't much higher then how much I.. "liked" her before... still wont get one for the promo though...


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well, off to play Pokemon White on emulator until it comes to the US, hopefully I can afford it when they come out with an English version.
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PostSubject: Re: Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot)   Eihwaz (The new humanoid robot) - Page 4 EmptyTue Nov 16, 2010 6:33 pm

Ok, the video shows that is too overpowered.

I expect that in game she only has a strong cannon and floats. Give lily a strong weapon and super speed is like give ivis seraph wings.

Also, im guessing that cannon will not have autoaim, give that autoaim will be overpower it.

Maybe she will be a LND robot that floats?.
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Ok, the video shows that is too overpowered.

I expect that in game she only has a strong cannon and floats. Give lily a strong weapon and super speed is like give ivis seraph wings.

Also, im guessing that cannon will not have autoaim, give that autoaim will be overpower it.

Maybe she will be a LND robot that floats?.
Clearly, you mean an ART robot that floats... I figure she may have that appearance of attack, but it won't be any more powerful than Saggitary's Railgun. Also, she might instead be the first Artillery type to have a Zero Step-style option.

Remember there is a grand disparity between cutscene and gameplay power levels. Don't judge its power just yet.
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Feign wrote:
azz33 wrote:
Ok, the video shows that is too overpowered.

I expect that in game she only has a strong cannon and floats. Give lily a strong weapon and super speed is like give ivis seraph wings.

Also, im guessing that cannon will not have autoaim, give that autoaim will be overpower it.

Maybe she will be a LND robot that floats?.
Clearly, you mean an ART robot that floats...

Rigth, an ART.

Feign wrote:
I figure she may have that appearance of attack, but it won't be any more powerful than Saggitary's Railgun. Also, she might instead be the first Artillery type to have a Zero Step-style option.

Zero step-style option?.

Feign wrote:
Remember there is a grand disparity between cutscene and gameplay power levels. Don't judge its power just yet.

I expect it will be an strong laser with a long range (maybe the strongest laser/cannon of the game, just like seraph has the best wings, ivis the strongest sword and ouka the fastest attacks), but for not overpower it i don't think it will be super fast or have an autoaim with that laser.
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azz33 wrote:
Zero step-style option?.
Err, that she will have something like Zero-Step rather than some kind of ludicrously high WLK stat or something.
azz33 wrote:
I expect it will be an strong laser with a long range (maybe the strongest laser/cannon of the game, just like seraph has the best wings, ivis the strongest sword and ouka the fastest attacks), but for not overpower it i don't think it will be super fast or have an autoaim with that laser.
Except that it could be arguable that Shaden BS is better than Seraph Wing. Also, ask Hyoka about the ridiculous Blazed Baron abomination that out-damages Ivis... I dunno about Ouka being the fastest by any margin, either (haven't really looked at her Promoted stats). Certainly, they are the best in their size/point class, but that leaves a lot of room for adjustment in Ancient Lily's power.

The only sure thing anyone is putting down is that the promoted form is an improvement on the original.
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Meh forget Lily she can die in a fire... i want the evil robot girl she fights against...
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Meh forget Lily she can die in a fire... i want the evil robot girl she fights against...
You just want that Gigandorf-tier Gravity Ball... Razz
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Dune wrote:
Meh forget Lily she can die in a fire... i want the evil robot girl she fights against...
You just want that Gigandorf-tier Gravity Ball... Razz

Meh id rather melee claw-rip appart lilys to pieces.. gravity ball would be icing on the cake Razz
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