[Bot Discussion] Sheeno

Subject: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:03 pm

Curious to see what people think of her, maybe encourage others to use her too. I think her core looks pretty interesting and has a decent amount of potential:

Decent carts
High mobility stats, low str/tec/tgh
Low cost but moderately high capacity

All generally points to a Revenge Tune-centric bot with a good amount of capa, especially if you zero out one of her (already low) offensive stats.

Couple of build ideas I had:

0 str, Pierce Gun:

Anti-homing anti-air:

I'm thinking the best approach to her is to zero out str and use revenge tunes to take advantage of her low tgh instead of trying to improve it. Generally I'd opt for CV but I could see some potential with Hypershot or Clearance too.

Regular Poster Posts : 163 Join date : 2011-02-17

370 hp with low tgh is literally 3 novas

Ace Poster Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28

Hey guys let's just be extremely negative like a fucking faggot okay.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:30 pm

bippusuta wrote:: 370 hp with low tgh is literally 3 novas

Could easily lower tec in favor of HP or something.

Regular Poster Posts : 163 Join date : 2011-02-17

I don't like the idea of fragile hoppers at all. It is so easy to get hit by a random nova when you aren't expecting it and be screwed out of 1/3rd of your HP. Honestly I don't really see the point of a bot having such high Wlk and Fly. IMO the only way to tune Lnds now is getting as much HP as possible to just survive, and Tank tunes don't -fly.

Spoiler:

This is how I would do probably build Sheeno. It's just I can't help but feel Pawnger does this just as well while being UC.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:53 pm

Silver/Gold Pawnger perhaps, regular doesn't have the capa to support these types of weapon/shield/tune setups. Quickly put together the same weapons and shields with double CV on a Pawnger core with similar parts and identical carts and I'm already at 810/825.

I can see where you're coming from though, Sheeno's fly is definitely excessive for HP-centric builds.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:55 pm

Don't forget the usual vox bullshit.

Lazflamme made mecha, too bad it came way too late.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:57 pm

Turkeysaur wrote:: Don't forget the usual vox bullshit.

Lazflamme made mecha, too bad it came way too late.

ikr

I'd be drooling if this was last year

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bippusuta wrote:: Honestly I don't really see the point of a bot having such high Wlk and Fly. IMO the only way to tune Lnds now is getting as much HP as possible to just survive, and Tank tunes don't -fly.

>mobility

you know if you actually did tune walk onto your units you wouldn't be bitching about voxes as much as you do.

this is a thread about what to do with sheeno, not about some faggotass elitist bitching and whining about seraphs. if everyone cried about the newest opshit we wouldn't get anything done.

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I do see bippu's point though. It's not hard to get hit by Vox/Nova, especially if you get stunned and a C.Veil doesn't proc.

Ace Poster Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28

It's not hard to fucking dodge the things.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:18 am

Malphes wrote:: It's not hard to fucking dodge the things.

It can be when you have more than just a seraph flying at you

But then again theorywork

Ace Poster Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28

Anyone can be retarded and theorycraft by stacking up as much unrealistic negative shit against themselves as possible.

This is about potential, not "How hard can I get fucked over in extremely unrealistic situations"

Adept Poster Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29

It's not very unrealistic to say there are 5 seraphs in a game all shooting their novas in staggered intervals.

But yes when there's just one it's not that big a deal.

Ace Poster Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28

I can see her being a robo-ouka with those batshit insane mob stats. She has boost run level one by the way.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:48 pm

Malphes wrote:: >mobility

you know if you actually did tune walk onto your units you wouldn't be bitching about voxes as much as you do.

this is a thread about what to do with sheeno, not about some faggotass elitist bitching and whining about seraphs. if everyone cried about the newest opshit we wouldn't get anything done.

No amount of walk is gonna save you from vox, only perfect timed WB dodge and anti-homing bit. And most of the time you won't have enough time to fill WB gauge before the vox itself.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:11 pm

That's true, but the number of players using reshas around has fallen to say 2 regulars, compared to teh current Seraph FC number, which is aproximatly around 20 regulars (counting all times of the day).

Still, if i was able to dash dodge a few Seraph Novas with my healer here and there, probably a hopper can too. And that sheeno bazooka build seems nice.

But what about the sub weapon she brought? Do you think 3 homing shurikens shot from random angles is that bad for a weapon? scratch

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Turkeysaur wrote:

Malphes wrote:: >mobility

you know if you actually did tune walk onto your units you wouldn't be bitching about voxes as much as you do.

this is a thread about what to do with sheeno, not about some faggotass elitist bitching and whining about seraphs. if everyone cried about the newest opshit we wouldn't get anything done.

No amount of walk is gonna save you from vox, only perfect timed WB dodge and anti-homing bit. And most of the time you won't have enough time to fill WB gauge before the vox itself.

You're full of shit.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:04 am

Malphes wrote:: You're full of shit.

Try your land mobility wonder and please do not forget to share your results.

Ace Poster Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28

No more like half the shit you post in this section is fucking retarded.

Quote :: Still, if i was able to dash dodge a few Seraph Novas with my healer here and there, probably a hopper can too.

Just because you're shit at this game doesn't mean everyone else is too.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:22 pm

Malphes wrote:: No more like half the shit you post in this section is fucking retarded.

Nice job at proving your point, wonder who is the one posting shit in this section.

Ace Poster Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28

Uh, clearly it's you because half the things you've posted are (once again) fucking retarded.

ogm serphas r so op..................... ugh........

I've seen how you play ingame and you're total trash, I don't know why you think you have a right to bitch about seraphs. It's fine if you're shit at this game, but don't be forcing your expectations down our throat. Same shit goes to you too bippu.

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:19 pm

Well I got a Sheeno as well. Noticed that she's really a ranged land unit. Tried her shurikens ...but they're not that good (for me anyway). It's just a faster version of the shurikens of little ninja robot.

Now I gotta check some parts that's good for her. Hmm...

PS: I like her moonwalk though #em3

Ace Poster Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28

i probably wouldn't change out her parts since from what i know they're fine

Subject: Re: [Bot Discussion] Sheeno Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:44 pm

Malphes wrote:: i probably wouldn't change out her parts since from what i know they're fine

Legs, head, and arms are all just average.

BS is good if you're zeroing str or tec but otherwise Froglander or Shino are better for gunners, and...a lot of things are better for melee builds.

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