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Milistaier Regular Poster
Posts : 110 Join date : 2011-06-30 Age : 29 Location : Romania,Transilvania
| Subject: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:04 pm | |
| I was wondering what are the breakpoints for WLK FLY etc....I can't find the guide , can you please give me the link if there is one?And what would be an perfect build for Ouka?
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Stickboy Master Poster
Posts : 2971 Join date : 2011-05-23 Age : 30 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:09 pm | |
| http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t7429-boost-run-short-boost-etc-etc-charts
it's stickied at the Guide Section. ._. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:09 pm | |
| Some charts might be here
http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t7429-boost-run-short-boost-etc-etc-charts
Damnit i got ninjad ._. |
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Milistaier Regular Poster
Posts : 110 Join date : 2011-06-30 Age : 29 Location : Romania,Transilvania
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:11 pm | |
| thanks, updated the same question to keep it small xD. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:41 pm | |
| - Milistaier wrote:
- I was wondering what are the breakpoints for WLK FLY etc....I can't find the guide , can you please give me the link if there is one?And what would be an perfect build for Ouka?
A "perfect" build is going to be pretty insane, tuning and statwise. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Ouka
【Parts】 BD: Ouka BD : Dual 3way Bit : Cat Tail LGJ [Power] : Ouka LG [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [High Power Alpha] : Byakkou BS [High Power Alpha] [Power] [Power] : Ouka HD [High Run Beta] [Run] [Run] : Black Layer Ribbon [High Power] : Berry Earrings [Power] : Jikun BS [Run] [Run] [Run] : Ouka AM [Run] [High Power Alpha] [Power] : Ouka Sword [Slow] [Slow] [Grappler] : Ouka AM2 [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Ouka AM@ : Ouka Sheath
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1295 CAPA: 1295 HP: 447 STR: 36 TEC: 1 WLK: 35 FLY: 15 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +80×6 Stun Regain Short Boost Boost Run Quick Land
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×11 Fudara Cosmos×8 Ones Cosmos×1 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×85 Green Chip×25 Rainbow Chip×58 Power Amp×92 Engine Shaft×35 Physical Stone×100 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×54 Shock Graphite×53 Snail Liquid×69 Hard Plate×100 Handa Cosmos×2
My opinioin on C.Veil has kinda changed from when I originally built my Ouka. I feel like (for the cost) it's fairly worth it as an escape option, or for taking out melees trying to hound you (which as an Ouka will happen). One of my Ouka uses Stealth System, and while I do enjoy it, most people don't, so I left it out. If you feel like you want it, feel free to drop some str in order to take it. | |
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Milistaier Regular Poster
Posts : 110 Join date : 2011-06-30 Age : 29 Location : Romania,Transilvania
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:06 pm | |
| Ok my Ouka has 32 str, wlk 37, fly 11,tgh 9, since I see on the charts that 37 wlk and 11 fly is the same as 35 wlk and 15 fly, can I let the wlk and fly alone, and boost my others? | |
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Tuskin Do not charge RT
Posts : 2811 Join date : 2011-01-25
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:17 pm | |
| 40 STR 40 WLK 1 TGH
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO. | |
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Milistaier Regular Poster
Posts : 110 Join date : 2011-06-30 Age : 29 Location : Romania,Transilvania
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:42 pm | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:54 pm | |
| - Milistaier wrote:
- Ok my Ouka has 32 str, wlk 37, fly 11,tgh 9, since I see on the charts that 37 wlk and 11 fly is the same as 35 wlk and 15 fly, can I let the wlk and fly alone, and boost my others?
If you've already achieved redteir boost run, then yes, go for str/get 12 tgh. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:14 pm | |
| Stealth System is pretty useful for the following reasons 1. It allows you to sneak up behind enemies with minimal detection, which means it makes it easier to reach your targets. 2. It's harder for enemies to pursue you because you're not on their radar (unless they do have broad radar of course but that's a different story) Crimson Veil is fine too, because it allows for quick get aways. It's pretty hard to run away when you get stunned a lot, so this is another great option, it also gives you extra HP. As for the TGH, you can have 11-12TGH or 16TGH, pick your poison wisely and take Stun Regain because it helps you survive. If you tune to 11-12TGH, you'll have more capacity for STR, so you'll be able to kill enemies a easier but it's harder to play since you can get stunned quite easily If you tune to 16TGH, you have slightly less STR than 11-12TGH builds but you'll be able to survive easier because it's a bit harder to get stunned. The priorities - Milistaier wrote:
- Tuskin wrote:
- 40 STR
40 WLK 1 TGH
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO. no trolling please,Lol. - Spoiler:
It's not trolling, it's a joke. In all seriousness, Ouka does feel like she only has 1TGH when you play her.
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:50 pm | |
| Honestly my Ouka at 12 TGH feels like she isn't stunned much. The only time I get stunned is from alphastrikers, but that'd happen even with 16 tgh. | |
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Sladezero Police Is Coming
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-12-17 Age : 33 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:13 pm | |
| heres my build: - Spoiler:
its got 2x cv and slow, its not the best build but it works those builds are nice but i like to leave some tec for the bits | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:25 pm | |
| Would consider bumping your tgh to 11 if you could, since you have stun regain... and 11 is tgh breakpoint. |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:27 pm | |
| - iKray wrote:
- Would consider bumping your tgh to 11 if you could, since you have stun regain... and 11 is tgh breakpoint.
If by 11 you mean 12 | |
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Sladezero Police Is Coming
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-12-17 Age : 33 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:28 pm | |
| - iKray wrote:
- Would consider bumping your tgh to 11 if you could, since you have stun regain... and 11 is tgh breakpoint.
yah i was planing to, just havent had the sp or harmonics to do so yet | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:28 pm | |
| - Sladezero wrote:
- heres my build:
- Spoiler:
its got 2x cv and slow, its not the best build but it works
those builds are nice but i like to leave some tec for the bits I'll be honest with you, that build is horrible. 1. It doesn't matter about the TEC as long as it is not less than 1, honestly you could do lots of damage without relying on the wonderbits. 2. The STR is too low, you're going to have a hard time doing damage and killing enemies quickly and efficiently. 3. 2x slow + no third weapon tune? No way in hell. 4. Your choice of accesories are bad, unless you just want to keep them for looks, in that case be my guest. 5. Tough Runner, probably alright if you get hit a lot while running away (But you shouldn't be). The thing is, when you're attacking you're not "running", and therefore you won't be getting the TGH benefit. I find this cartridge pretty much useless, You get more benefits from a dash cartridge such as shortboost or sway. 6. No dash cart? What is this? I don't even? 7. 10TGH, get it up to 11-12 or 16. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:29 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- iKray wrote:
- Would consider bumping your tgh to 11 if you could, since you have stun regain... and 11 is tgh breakpoint.
If by 11 you mean 12 Whoops. Thanks for catching that. |
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Stickboy Master Poster
Posts : 2971 Join date : 2011-05-23 Age : 30 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:29 pm | |
| - Sladezero wrote:
heres my build:
- Spoiler:
its got 2x cv and slow, its not the best build but it works
those builds are nice but i like to leave some tec for the bits Where's Blast Guard. ._. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:30 pm | |
| - Stickboy wrote:
- Where's Blast Guard. ._.
You can't fit a Blast Guard on a properly built Ouka. |
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Sladezero Police Is Coming
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-12-17 Age : 33 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:39 pm | |
| yah the ac are just for looks and remember i said "its not the best build but it works"(atleast for me) but anyway i know it still needs work on it
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SL the Pyro Regular Poster
Posts : 364 Join date : 2011-04-26 Age : 34 Location : I snuck into your room as you read this sentence.
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:32 pm | |
| Since we seem to be in the habit of grilling Ouka builds, I guess I'll throw mine onto the barby: - SL's Ouka Build:
【Robot Name】 Ouka
【Parts】 BD: Ouka BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Ouka LG [Crimson Veil] [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] BS: Patty Lop BS [Tough] [High Run] [High Power Alpha] HD: Ouka HD [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] HDAC: Black Layer Ribbon [Tough] FCAC: Berry Earrings [Tough] BS: Patty Lop BS [Tough] [High Run Beta] [High Power Alpha] AM: Ouka AM [Tough] [High Run] [High Run] WP: Ouka Sword [Slow] [Slow] [High Grappler Alpha] AM: Ouka AM2 [Tough] [Tough] [High Run] WP: Ouka AM@ AM: Ouka Sheath
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: LND SIZE: S COST: 1435 CAPA: 1435 HP: 420 STR: 20 TEC: 5 WLK: 40 FLY: 17 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +80×5 Stun Regain Tough Runner Short Boost Boost Run Stealth System Yes, I'm aware that it has most of the shortcomings that LXE nitpicked at, but there's only so much you can do within the limitations. I at least tried to account for the lower STR with a High Grappler, slipped in a CV tune and Short Boost, etc. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:34 pm | |
| - SL the Pyro wrote:
- SL's Ouka Build:
【Robot Name】 Ouka
【Parts】 BD: Ouka BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Ouka LG [Crimson Veil] [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] BS: Patty Lop BS [Tough] [High Run] [High Power Alpha] HD: Ouka HD [High Run] [High Run] [High Run] HDAC: Black Layer Ribbon [Tough] FCAC: Berry Earrings [Tough] BS: Patty Lop BS [Tough] [High Run Beta] [High Power Alpha] AM: Ouka AM [Tough] [High Run] [High Run] WP: Ouka Sword [Slow] [Slow] [High Grappler Alpha] AM: Ouka AM2 [Tough] [Tough] [High Run] WP: Ouka AM@ AM: Ouka Sheath
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: LND SIZE: S COST: 1435 CAPA: 1435 HP: 420 STR: 20 TEC: 5 WLK: 40 FLY: 17 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +80×5 Stun Regain Tough Runner Short Boost Boost Run
Have fun outdamaging your cost with only 20STR. |
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SL the Pyro Regular Poster
Posts : 364 Join date : 2011-04-26 Age : 34 Location : I snuck into your room as you read this sentence.
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:45 pm | |
| - LXE wrote:
- Have fun outdamaging your cost with only 20STR.
But that's the thing, Ouka isn't too damage-heavy to start with, nor is she meant to be. She strikes me as what combo-characters are to fighting games: inflicting pain by chaining hits together faster than the opponent can react, and getting the hell out of there if something devastating is headed your way. And lest we forget that the TGH system tends to punish weapons like Ouka's that hit several times in succession, further making it less practical to soup up her power to insane degrees. Of course, that's just my opinion/playstyle. Your mileage may vary. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:03 am | |
| - SL the Pyro wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- Have fun outdamaging your cost with only 20STR.
But that's the thing, Ouka isn't too damage-heavy to start with, nor is she meant to be. She strikes me as what combo-characters are to fighting games: inflicting pain by chaining hits together faster than the opponent can react, and getting the hell out of there if something devastating is headed your way. And lest we forget that the TGH system tends to punish weapons like Ouka's that hit several times in succession, further making it less practical to soup up her power to insane degrees.
Of course, that's just my opinion/playstyle. Your mileage may vary. 1. You won't be able to do kills quickly and efficiently without a decent amount of STR. Trust me, I learnt from experience. 2. You won't be able to reduce your target's hp to very low levels unless there's nobody nearby. Mainly because that killling would take too much time. 3. Yes, her sword comboing is fast, but all the more to tune STR. If you have a decent amount of STR, you do a decent amount of damage per hit. If you don't have a decent amount of STR, you would not do a decent amount of damage per hit. 4. The damage reduction doesn't matter at all, you will still do more damage at 36STR than at 20STR. 5. Impractical to tune STR? Go home. |
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Turkeysaur Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-03-11 Location : BF30
| Subject: Re: Ouka build Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:29 am | |
| I find high STR not really worth it most of the time, if you can't make up for your cost then maybe you aren't playing melees right. | |
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