Revenge Tunes, and why you should be using them.

^You have to get it to activate first before you can go take a swim in traps.

Let's see...
Revenge tunes come from stun....
So if I impale myself on a cactus I can swim traps?

How2Do in Haku = =

tehprognoob wrote:

Let's see...
Revenge tunes come from stun....
So if I impale myself on a cactus I can swim traps?

How2Do in Haku = =

Pray that Haku attacks you and stuns you and it activates?

tehprognoob wrote:

Revenge tunes come from stun....

"normal" stun and "normal" knocback only, cuz there are tons of stun which never activated revenge

God is a Cat Girl wrote:

tehprognoob wrote:

Let's see...
Revenge tunes come from stun....
So if I impale myself on a cactus I can swim traps?

How2Do in Haku = =

Pray that Haku attacks you and stuns you and it activates?

trap-haku-attack

Nymph~ wrote:

tehprognoob wrote:

Revenge tunes come from stun....

"normal" stun and "normal" knocback only, cuz there are tons of stun which never activated revenge

God is a Cat Girl wrote:

tehprognoob wrote:

Let's see...
Revenge tunes come from stun....
So if I impale myself on a cactus I can swim traps?

How2Do in Haku = =

Pray that Haku attacks you and stuns you and it activates?

trap-haku-attack

Doesn't he rarely try to hit you with the staff?

I don't think trap haku hits at alll...

Yokura wrote:

I don't think trap haku hits at alll...

He doesn't even attack you.

LXE wrote:

Yokura wrote:

I don't think trap haku hits at alll...

He doesn't even attack you. :lol!:

read up on "to hit" in a dictionary

^implying you didn't already know about LXE's tendency to parrot what people just posted with his own redundant posts.

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^implying you didn't already know about LXE's tendency to parrot what people just posted with his own redundant posts.

Oh, that prankster.

The truth is that trap haku doesn't hit players, he just evades him. His purpose is to stall, not defeat.

I think that the most valid question for this situation would be if being hit by a trap counts as being stunned, so you could avoid other traps.

Which doesn't happen, i believe.

reVelske wrote:

^implying you didn't already know about LXE's tendency to parrot what people just posted with his own redundant posts.

obvious attempt to raise postcount is obvious.

Ask RebeccaDM for stuff about haku. I've done a few runs with her, and she's got some genius setups in place. I've seen her just zoom through traps like they weren't even there, decimate haku, and then jump over to where it's going to spawn next just before it disappears.

How she does this, I have no idea, and trying to pump her for information is like trying to steal cookies from Nisa. It just doesn't work.

Gerrion wrote:

Quote :

^implying you didn't already know about LXE's tendency to parrot what people just posted with his own redundant posts.

Oh, that prankster.

The truth is that trap haku doesn't hit players, he just evades him. His purpose is to stall, not defeat.

I think that the most valid question for this situation would be if being hit by a trap counts as being stunned, so you could avoid other traps.

Which doesn't happen, i believe.

Correct, traps don't stun.

A few questions:
- If you have two different Revenge Tunes on (Let's say CV and Clear) is it possible to have both active at the same time? Or does one replace the other?

- Does the All Guard from a Revenge Tune stack with a Guard Cartridge? For example: 30% All Guard + 30% Sword Guard? (Which would either be 60% off or 51% off depending on when they're calculated.)

I think that they don't stack

Else, I mean, unstunnable immune alphag with hypershot

lol

AzureRathalos wrote:

A few questions:
- If you have two different Revenge Tunes on (Let's say CV and Clear) is it possible to have both active at the same time? Or does one replace the other?

- Does the All Guard from a Revenge Tune stack with a Guard Cartridge? For example: 30% All Guard + 30% Sword Guard? (Which would either be 60% off or 51% off depending on when they're calculated.)

One would replace the other, as they occupy the same buff "slot".

However, you can get Hypershot from a PS/chibi/whatever as well as Revenge: CV/Clearance, as they occupy different buff slots.

Nisa wrote:

reVelske wrote:

^implying you didn't already know about LXE's tendency to parrot what people just posted with his own redundant posts.

obvious attempt to raise postcount is obvious.

Damnit, caught.

Suguri wrote:

AzureRathalos wrote:

A few questions:
- If you have two different Revenge Tunes on (Let's say CV and Clear) is it possible to have both active at the same time? Or does one replace the other?

- Does the All Guard from a Revenge Tune stack with a Guard Cartridge? For example: 30% All Guard + 30% Sword Guard? (Which would either be 60% off or 51% off depending on when they're calculated.)

One would replace the other, as they occupy the same buff "slot".

However, you can get Hypershot from a PS/chibi/whatever as well as Revenge: CV/Clearance, as they occupy different buff slots.

i made a thread a while ago about different buffs and debuffs, but its hopelessly outdated by now, it might give you some info on what suguri is talking about, though.

that reminds that i should propably do an update on that thread, but im so demotivated >.>

Nymph~ wrote:

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Burner ignition is tied to the first hard stunning hit. If you can't hard stun, you can't burn.

Hmm I got some questions...

First, exactly how long do the Guard/CV/Clearance/HS effects last?

And the 2nd question, I think the answer's been stated in the guide but I wanted to ask just in case:

Since the revenge tune effects only triggered when you're stunned, if I was using CV, could I still trigger its effect when it is still active?
And if it does, does it overlap the original effect or stack with it?

Blizt wrote:

First, exactly how long do the Guard/CV/Clearance/HS effects last?

You know, I haven't actually timed this. It feels about the same as hypershot from a PS.

EDIT: Counting frames, I came up with 10.307 seconds.

Blizt wrote:

Since the revenge tune effects only triggered when you're stunned, if I was using CV, could I still trigger its effect when it is still active?
And if it does, does it overlap the original effect or stack with it?

Yes, revenge tunes can proc again while they're already active. Revenge tunes won't stack, it just refreshes the effect (or overwrites it if you're using multiple revenge tunes).

It won't give you any notification if it refreshes though, so it's kind of a guessing game as to when it'll end.

Suguri wrote:

You know, I haven't actually timed this. It feels about the same as hypershot from a PS.

EDIT: Counting frames, I came up with 10.307 seconds.

Thanks for the effort of testing that out.

Well that's a lot better than I expected, I was worried that it would only lasts as long like chibi's all-guard effect kiss
(also HS from PS lasts for about 6 seconds)

Suguri wrote:

Yes, revenge tunes can proc again while they're already active. Revenge tunes won't stack, it just refreshes the effect (or overwrites it if you're using multiple revenge tunes).

It won't give you any notification if it refreshes though, so it's kind of a guessing game as to when it'll end.

Well now that I know it would last for at least 10 secs, I don't think this will be an issue to me anymore =]