Question

1.how to use ouka properly.......
2.how to use ouka to fight vanguard axer

pls help me

doraemon123 wrote:

1.how to use ouka properly.......
2.how to use ouka to fight vanguard axer

pls help me

1. Describing how to use Ouka is somewhat tricky. Just learn what her boundries are (inability to fight other melee bots very well, low HP, no air combo), and what you should do in each situation. I do not suggest "charging" with Ouka, you should never take direct routes. Try to think when you use her; if attacking a bot will mean being attacked by nearby bots that could potentially kill you before you finish, try waiting for the bot to move farther away.

2. You don't. Ouka is not meant for fighting melees, especially good melee like Vanguard Axer


Build is pretty important to a sucessful Ouka (especially in this new CB of Resha/Eris)

【Robot Name】
Ouka

【Parts】
BD： Ouka BD
　： Auto Gun Bit(default)
　： Ouka LG [High Tough] [High Tough] [High Power Alpha]
　　： Tonosama Lander BS [Tough] [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha]
　： Ouka HD [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Power Alpha]
　　： Black Layer Ribbon [High Power Alpha]
　　： Berry Earrings [High Power Alpha]
　： Tonosama Lander BS [High Run] [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha]
　： Ouka AM [Run] [Run] [High Run]
　　： Ouka Sword [Slow] [Slow] [Slow]
　： Ouka AM2 [Power] [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha]
　　： Ouka AM@
　： Ouka Sheath

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 陸
SIZE： S
COST： 1295
CAPA： 1295
HP： 412
STR： 35
TEC： -4
WLK： 36
FLY： 14
TGH： 16

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +80×6
Stun Regain
Short Boost
Boost Run
Stealth System

【必要素材】
Hidora Cosmos×4
Fudara Cosmos×16
Fourda Cosmos×3
Blue Chip×110
Green Chip×10
Rainbow Chip×57
Power Amp×95
Engine Shaft×46
Brake Damper×31
Rapid Crystal×81
Shock Graphite×70
Snail Liquid×127
Hard Plate×22

I can answer 2 at the moment.

Basically, you might wanna boost run around and shoot your discs. Just make sure you are a safe distance away from his Axe ESPECIALLY when he's in overdrive.

Also, you can try and lure him to your base or to an ally in order to get backup.

Patience is a virtue.

Mew wrote:

I can answer 2 at the moment.

Basically, you might wanna boost run around and shoot your discs. Just make sure you are a safe distance away from his Axe ESPECIALLY when he's in overdrive.

Also, you can try and lure him to your base or to an ally in order to get backup.

Patience is a virtue.

In a 1v1 situation, sure, but in an average arena, this isnt as likely to occur, and if it did you'd be best just to escape and go do more productive things. At most you'll whittle down the Axer before he decides its pointless to keep being kited by you.

Really depends how you tuned Ouka, but I'll advise you to not melee directly and always have full WB gauge at all moments to WB dodge.

1. This is better demonstrated to you in game than explained here.

2. The only times you would verse other melees are
- When you can't outrun it.
- When you want to escape it's stunlock.
- When it's on very very low HP and can be killed in a few hits.
- When it's a noob player, self explanatory.
- When you have nothing else to attack.
- When it is looking away from you and doesn't know you're behind it. Backstab it, hit and run.
- When it targets you.
- When you get slowed by it.
- When you want to die.
- When you want to feed.
- When you are LXE/Hakuo.

Trill wrote:

Spoiler:

I'd like to point out a few things, and please note that some of this is preference.

- Ouka BS is a good BS, keep it.
- 16TGH - Unless you're going to rush a lot you don't really need it. Keep it at 11 or 12. Preferably 12.
- 3x slow on sword - I suggest tuning 1x Great Grappler + 2x Slow. Does more damage incase you don't slow. It's not like there's a big chance it will actually slow your opponent though.
- Slotted Accessories, not everyone has them.
- Negative TEC, your Air slashes are going to be somewhat useless, and you won't have wonderbits backing you up. I keep it at 1, and my bits are usually Dual Spike Bit, Dual Slayer, and Dual Axe.
- ShortBoost can make it really hard for you to "Sidestep and hit". I use sway.

Here's my build.

Spoiler:

I was going to ignore this thread, but I need to jump in before stuff gets wrecked badly.

LXE wrote:

I'd like to point out a few things, and please note that some of this is preference.

- Ouka BS is a good BS, keep it.
- 16TGH - Unless you're going to rush a lot you don't really need it. Keep it at 11 or 12. Preferably 12.
- 3x slow on sword - I suggest tuning 1x Great Grappler + 2x Slow. Does more damage incase you don't slow. It's not like there's a big chance it will actually slow your opponent though.
- Negative TEC, your Air slashes are going to be somewhat useless, and you won't have wonderbits backing you up. I keep it at 1, and my bits are usually Dual Spike Bit, Dual Slayer, and Dual Axe.
- ShortBoost can make it really hard for you to "Sidestep and hit". I use sway.

Disregard all of this.

Suguri wrote:

I was going to ignore this thread, but I need to jump in before stuff gets wrecked badly.

LXE wrote:

I'd like to point out a few things, and please note that some of this is preference.

- Ouka BS is a good BS, keep it.
- 16TGH - Unless you're going to rush a lot you don't really need it. Keep it at 11 or 12. Preferably 12.
- 3x slow on sword - I suggest tuning 1x Great Grappler + 2x Slow. Does more damage incase you don't slow. It's not like there's a big chance it will actually slow your opponent though.
- Negative TEC, your Air slashes are going to be somewhat useless, and you won't have wonderbits backing you up. I keep it at 1, and my bits are usually Dual Spike Bit, Dual Slayer, and Dual Axe.
- ShortBoost can make it really hard for you to "Sidestep and hit". I use sway.

Disregard all of this.

I did say it was preference.

Air slashes are useless? I've killed some running enemies countless times using it. Even Fia uses it. ._.

Stickboy wrote:

Air slashes are useless? I've killed some running enemies countless times using it. Even Fia uses it. ._.

I said "somewhat" useless with Negative TEC.

LXE wrote:

Suguri wrote:

I was going to ignore this thread, but I need to jump in before stuff gets wrecked badly.

LXE wrote:

I'd like to point out a few things, and please note that some of this is preference.

- Ouka BS is a good BS, keep it.
- 16TGH - Unless you're going to rush a lot you don't really need it. Keep it at 11 or 12. Preferably 12.
- 3x slow on sword - I suggest tuning 1x Great Grappler + 2x Slow. Does more damage incase you don't slow. It's not like there's a big chance it will actually slow your opponent though.
- Negative TEC, your Air slashes are going to be somewhat useless, and you won't have wonderbits backing you up. I keep it at 1, and my bits are usually Dual Spike Bit, Dual Slayer, and Dual Axe.
- ShortBoost can make it really hard for you to "Sidestep and hit". I use sway.

Disregard all of this.

I did say it was preference.

You said "some of this is preference."

Preference doesn't have shit to do with the fact that Ouka BS is statistically one of the worst BSes in the game, for one thing.

Suguri wrote:

LXE wrote:

Suguri wrote:

I was going to ignore this thread, but I need to jump in before stuff gets wrecked badly.


Disregard all of this.

I did say it was preference.

You said "some of this is preference."

Preference doesn't have shit to do with the fact that Ouka BS is statistically one of the worst BSes in the game, for one thing.

ninjaed by suguri, was gonna say the same thing ._.

Isnt Ouka air slash str based?

Ok, I'm an idiot.

You tell me what the OP should do. I'll just go back to whatever it is I do best.

tggt wrote:

Isnt Ouka air slash str based?

Pretty sure it was TEC, it does 16 Damage when I got 1 TEC.

Ouka used to be a great hopper killing melee (CHASE AND ANCHOR THEM TO GROUND WITH SAKURA BLITZ)... but then Vanguards became more and more available...

and now Resha and Eris >_>

so there are not enough hoppers for oukas to be efficient for now.

Her melee combos are very tricky to enemies and it can stunlock for a good amount of time, but her critical weakness (no air combo!!) kinda ruins it :/

ive been working with grappler tunes for a long time, but for now, go for a gladiator tune since most ART bots these days in arena are not as slow as they used to be (longer attk range and speed = more likely to hit and anchor them to ground... but H-gladiator tunes are just too expensive... 11 rainbow chips :/) and most enemy melees WILL have a longer attk range than you, thus gaining advantage unless you do something with your own attk range.

SmileBrush wrote:

ive been working with grappler tunes for a long time, but for now, go for a gladiator tune

You sure about that?

LXE wrote:

SmileBrush wrote:

ive been working with grappler tunes for a long time, but for now, go for a gladiator tune

You sure about that?

It works well, apparently. Catches enemies in good range 'cuz of this lag. ._.

For the cost I dont think High Gladiator tunes are worth it.

I don't feel h.glad's anything great on Ouka, just because her starting range and stunlock are ass to begin with.

Whatever you do don't g.grap her though. I cry whenever people think g.grap on combo based melee is a good idea.