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PostSubject: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Feb 25, 2012 3:29 pm

last time i posted my entire inventory but i guess downloading a bunch of pics was too much..

so ill post some notable stuff (?) here and ask for some builds.

money -
10k uc
15 RT

gara luck- i get 3 blue ball in a row i bet

rare bots-
misty
thoarla (no am3)
crimrose with am4 x2
seraph crimrose
summer crimrose
raystag
shino exrod
kamui nagi
kealmes
aquila
few chibis
tesladona
nicole malice
lobsguy
destructer girl
ghost raider (2slot)
brickgale red
hounddog (2slot)

rare stuff-
power shooter
beamshooter mod
ballista shooter
railgun
linear gun
blast magnet gun mod
reaper scythe
stardust cannon
auto beam rifle
all the haku staff
2x flint musket
buster gatling (one at shop. 6 force)
structure breaker
device breaker
barrage heatgun
scouter rifle
peacemaker
delta vulcun
8 vulcun
ignition sword
bucklerx4
stag claw
tentrion hd


skill-
i miss targets with railguns. nuff said
i score -2000 to -5000 in arena games nowdays.

tune- most likely i wont tune.


trying to make bots to fill 3 squad

average arena
epoch offense
epoch defense

currently my aquila has 4 shotgun and raystag hd with 10 capacity left over

seraph has beam shooter mod and buckler
tesladona has reaper scythe
lily has kealms amx2 and blast magnetgun mod and device breaker
kealmes has linear gun
thoarla has stardust cannon


-----------------you can ignore below----------------------------

to be specific, looking for
-ps breaker (my aquila is this right now.. takes forever to destroy PS)
-air skirmisher (my seraph and thoarla is this right now. fly above...shoot.. run..)
-air melee (my tesla is this right now.. but perma stunned by crow thing. its disgusting)
-air assassion using alpha strike (aquila maybe?)
-low cost zombie (not exactly hopper, something like cannonball itself. just runaround shooting and score. not close range hop shootin zooks.)
-lnd melee (idk how to use jikun at all. how do u kick and tackle without being perma stunned)
-lnd run and gun (my shino with buster gatling is this. permastunned alot)
-art that shoots bunch of guns (my lily/victory1 is this right now. )
-art that is a sniper (my kealmes is this right now, but linear isnt hitting a thing)
-tanker that can take hits for teammate (i think this is not a much of good stratagy in first place i think)
-a turret (....)
-very tiny bot that harasses (i think this is same as zombie)
-a bot that requires no skill (due to me bad at this game yet BR is above 3....)




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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Feb 25, 2012 3:44 pm

klauist wrote:
last time i posted my entire inventory but i guess downloading a bunch of pics was too much..

so ill post some notable stuff (?) here and ask for some builds.

money -
10k uc
80 RT

gara luck- i get 3 blue ball in a row i bet

rare bots-
misty
thoarla (no am3)
crimrose with am4 x2
seraph crimrose
summer crimrose
raystag
shino exrod
kamui nagi
kealmes
aquila
few chibis
tesladona
nicole malice
lobsguy


rare stuff-
power shooter
beamshooter mod
ballista shooter
railgun
linear gun
blast magnet gun mod
reaper scythe
stardust cannon
auto beam rifle
all the haku staff
2x flint musket
buster gatling (one at shop. 6 force)
structure breaker
device breaker
barrage heatgun
scouter rifle
peacemaker
delta vulcun
8 vulcun
ignition sword
bucklerx4
stag claw
tentrion hd


skill-
i miss targets with railguns. nuff said
i score -2000 to -5000 in arena games nowdays.

tune- most likely i wont tune.


trying to make bots to fill 3 squad

average arena
epoch offense
epoch defense

currently my aquila has 4 shotgun and raystag hd with 10 capacity left over

seraph has beam shooter mod and buckler
tesladona has reaper scythe
lily has kealms amx2 and blast magnetgun mod and device breaker
kealmes has linear gun
thoarla has stardust cannon


-----------------you can ignore below----------------------------

to be specific, looking for
-ps breaker (my aquila is this right now.. takes forever to destroy PS)
-air skirmisher (my seraph and thoarla is this right now. fly above...shoot.. run..)
-air melee (my tesla is this right now.. but perma stunned by crow thing. its disgusting)
-air assassion using alpha strike (aquila maybe?)
-low cost zombie (not exactly hopper, something like cannonball itself. just runaround shooting and score. not close range hop shootin zooks.)
-lnd melee (idk how to use jikun at all. how do u kick and tackle without being perma stunned)
-lnd run and gun (my shino with buster gatling is this. permastunned alot)
-art that shoots bunch of guns (my lily/victory1 is this right now. )
-art that is a sniper (my kealmes is this right now, but linear isnt hitting a thing)
-tanker that can take hits for teammate (i think this is not a much of good stratagy in first place i think)
-a turret (....)
-very tiny bot that harasses (i think this is same as zombie)
-a bot that requires no skill (due to me bad at this game yet BR is above 3....)



I may suggest a Kealms with Kealms AM + 2x Handy Bazooka alphastriker

But what you're asking for here is pretty impossible: An easy bot who places well and requires no tuning.

I guess you can try an Accel Saber with Buster Gatling

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Feb 25, 2012 4:31 pm

yea ive been seeing how builds in these threads always include tunes

hoping to get best out of it without tune tho, even if its like 70% efficient
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Feb 25, 2012 4:32 pm

Kealms is small and Accel Saber has high base mobility stats; untuned both should do decently
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 3:21 pm

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one more capacity cart then float dash then blast guard should be alright i guess.

cant find anything small as cannon ball lg that gives decent tgh
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 6:26 pm

좀 이따가 머좀 쓸게여~ 우힛 <3
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 6:45 pm

klauist wrote:
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one more capacity cart then float dash then blast guard should be alright i guess.

cant find anything small as cannon ball lg that gives decent tgh

I'd suggest changing the LG and HD. Both of those parts are somewhat bad statwise. I may suggest Mach Knight LG (it folds up in flight making you much harder to hit ) and Dikaros or Mach Knight HD2.

Carts should be float dash / quickboost / moving burst, and try to pump fly (28+ fly) while trying to stay low cost.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 9:02 pm

Raystag core with Beam Shooter Mod.

Take out the HD you won't be needing it. You should be using it on an alpha air which, I don't see any up there. Except for what? Aquila? But, I don't know about using an Alpha Aquila (Does that thing even have Moving Burst?). Ask someone else.

You might wanna switch BS and LGs though.

Leave the sexy AMs on.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 10:37 pm

Mew wrote:
Raystag core with Beam Shooter Mod.

Take out the HD you won't be needing it. You should be using it on an alpha air which, I don't see any up there. Except for what? Aquila? But, I don't know about using an Alpha Aquila (Does that thing even have Moving Burst?). Ask someone else.

You might wanna switch BS and LGs though.

Leave the sexy AMs on.

he does, but he will need more selection of weapons than the ones listed above to become alpha
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 10:42 pm

kealmes = junked after many suggestions telling me float dash isnt that great nowdays
(i think using its small core and high fly ill use it as long range zombie bot...?)
and float dash itself has small moving burst..

beamshooter mod my seraph crim is using.


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(might replace am to cheaper one and use structure breaker or linear railgun)
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 11:15 pm

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commonly known as amatorius. u can get amateus from shop with 50 Rt, so use that UC - Rt Conversion.

U can get Greinaut AMs from UC gara, but u can just use a Kealmes AM (it actually has a much better DPS, since it is a Shell-type weapon and also has higher force.. but the ammo...) with it instead if you want.

be aware of FLY break points (10,14,18,22,26,30,31,34,36,38). if ur FLY is 25, it might be wise for u to tune so that u get a 26. but it depends on ur playstyle.

Spoiler:

this is based on my Aquila PS breaker (altho i prefer Multi Curve Gun with Lucheer HD or Multi Mega Beam Gun with Raystag). it can melt PS in no time, but it does nothing else.

Broad radar is for you to be able to know where all your enemies are and intercept into unguarded PS as soon as you see a loophole.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 12:49 am

SmileBrush wrote:
Spoiler:

commonly known as amatorius. u can get amateus from shop with 50 Rt, so use that UC - Rt Conversion.

U can get Greinaut AMs from UC gara, but u can just use a Kealmes AM (it actually has a much better DPS, since it is a Shell-type weapon and also has higher force.. but the ammo...) with it instead if you want.

be aware of FLY break points (10,14,18,22,26,30,31,34,36,38). if ur FLY is 25, it might be wise for u to tune so that u get a 26. but it depends on ur playstyle.

Spoiler:

this is based on my Aquila PS breaker (altho i prefer Multi Curve Gun with Lucheer HD or Multi Mega Beam Gun with Raystag). it can melt PS in no time, but it does nothing else.

Broad radar is for you to be able to know where all your enemies are and intercept into unguarded PS as soon as you see a loophole.


Amateus with Kealms AM would be fine, and those fly breakpoints are off (its 28, not 26)
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 1:31 am

Trill wrote:
SmileBrush wrote:
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commonly known as amatorius. u can get amateus from shop with 50 Rt, so use that UC - Rt Conversion.

U can get Greinaut AMs from UC gara, but u can just use a Kealmes AM (it actually has a much better DPS, since it is a Shell-type weapon and also has higher force.. but the ammo...) with it instead if you want.

be aware of FLY break points (10,14,18,22,26,30,31,34,36,38). if ur FLY is 25, it might be wise for u to tune so that u get a 26. but it depends on ur playstyle.

Spoiler:

this is based on my Aquila PS breaker (altho i prefer Multi Curve Gun with Lucheer HD or Multi Mega Beam Gun with Raystag). it can melt PS in no time, but it does nothing else.

Broad radar is for you to be able to know where all your enemies are and intercept into unguarded PS as soon as you see a loophole.


Amateus with Kealms AM would be fine, and those fly breakpoints are off (its 28, not 26)

oh ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 6:07 am

Here's the stuff I know

Bots
- Tentrion HD is a good head for Alpha strikers but Raystag HD is better
- Misty makes a good hopper
- Brickgale RED has Broad Radurr

Weapons
- Ballista Shooter is good but Power Shooter is better
- Scouter Rifle is a good UC weapon, give it to your Accel Saber, Link to thread here --> https://cosmicbreak.forumotion.com/t5828-uc-accel-saber-build
- Beam Shooter Mod or Auto Beam Rifle are good weapons although the Auto Beam Rifle may be a bit hard to aim with. Give one of these to your Seraph Crimrose
- Reaper Scythe is good, get a Zero Saber Girl from the shop and give it to her, slap a buckler on while you're at it. This will get you a popular non garapon melee build.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 1:37 pm

SmileBrush wrote:
Spoiler:

commonly known as amatorius. u can get amateus from shop with 50 Rt, so use that UC - Rt Conversion.

U can get Greinaut AMs from UC gara, but u can just use a Kealmes AM (it actually has a much better DPS, since it is a Shell-type weapon and also has higher force.. but the ammo...) with it instead if you want.

be aware of FLY break points (10,14,18,22,26,30,31,34,36,38). if ur FLY is 25, it might be wise for u to tune so that u get a 26. but it depends on ur playstyle.

Spoiler:

this is based on my Aquila PS breaker (altho i prefer Multi Curve Gun with Lucheer HD or Multi Mega Beam Gun with Raystag). it can melt PS in no time, but it does nothing else.

Broad radar is for you to be able to know where all your enemies are and intercept into unguarded PS as soon as you see a loophole.

Alphag build shouldnt take EIW most of the time. And seriously, i cant see any reason to use thoar LG on a M-size bot.

>OP
Power shooter, BSM, SDC and ABR are good stuffs u can use.
SDC:

Thoar BD is not really good, but since u dont have better L-air core.
Try the other three on seraph and see what is best(u should mention how many slot because tat's also important).
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 2:06 pm

tggt wrote:
SmileBrush wrote:
Spoiler:

commonly known as amatorius. u can get amateus from shop with 50 Rt, so use that UC - Rt Conversion.

U can get Greinaut AMs from UC gara, but u can just use a Kealmes AM (it actually has a much better DPS, since it is a Shell-type weapon and also has higher force.. but the ammo...) with it instead if you want.

be aware of FLY break points (10,14,18,22,26,30,31,34,36,38). if ur FLY is 25, it might be wise for u to tune so that u get a 26. but it depends on ur playstyle.

Spoiler:

this is based on my Aquila PS breaker (altho i prefer Multi Curve Gun with Lucheer HD or Multi Mega Beam Gun with Raystag). it can melt PS in no time, but it does nothing else.

Broad radar is for you to be able to know where all your enemies are and intercept into unguarded PS as soon as you see a loophole.

Alphag build shouldnt take EIW most of the time. And seriously, i cant see any reason to use thoar LG on a M-size bot.

>OP
Power shooter, BSM, SDC and ABR are good stuffs u can use.
SDC:

Thoar BD is not really good, but since u dont have better L-air core.
Try the other three on seraph and see what is best(u should mention how many slot because tat's also important).

Aquila is different from other alphag builds, i would say (just try to use him with and without, cuz i did). his EIW WILL show difference in DPS overall when u r shooting at PS (note that OP wants a PS breaker and he wanted to make use of his Aquila)

and about Thoarla LG... eh you may be right, but i just wanted it for me to put on a second BS. i COULD have used LazFlamme LG if i rly want a second BS, now that i think of it but o well~
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 5:31 pm

for slot thing, all the weps are from shop.
(1slot)
SDC is 2 slot
BSM is 0 slot
BMGM is 0 slot
ballista 2 slot
powershooter 2slot
ignition 3 slot
tentrion hd is 0 slot
thoarla birck red raystag kealmes is 3 slot cuz its garapon reward.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptyFri Mar 02, 2012 2:03 pm

thought of making an FLY sniper (originally air.. but i cant find any good sniper rifle for AIR other then negatron rifle., which seems highly not efficient.. and i doubt i can snipe using powershooter which has an arc of fire.)
focusing on small hitbox as well

potential sniper wep=
structure breaker
railgun (hard to use due to recoil. constantly have to move forward so i dont fall off high ground)
linear railgun
howitizer amj (ill rather use snail bot if i have to use howit think...)
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ps. i did some field test, and my railgun barely hits... other then that if it dose hit, i see 3 or 7 pop up. shouldnt it be like 50?
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Mar 03, 2012 1:30 am

the reason why u deal only around 3 to 7 dmg is becuz TGH reduction buff kicked in.

u shud try to snipe a target that isnt alrdy occupied by ur ally to deal better dmg Razz

also, u shud tune ur railgun to have more bullet speed.

Victory 1 is an excellent bot to use railgun cuz of his small size and his default WB is a Mini Long Range Unit.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Mar 03, 2012 1:44 am

SmileBrush wrote:
also, u shud tune ur railgun to have more bullet speed.
Please explain to me what's so hard about hitting with a 570 speed bullet that people feel they need to tune more speed on it. I see so many people here do that and don't understand it at all.

Wait, before that, tell me why people think shop Railgun is good.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Mar 03, 2012 2:11 am

shop railgun is a lot worse than all the other railguns out there, but it's a cheap railgun in the very least. railgun mod is a little bit better imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Mar 03, 2012 4:17 am

I hate the shop railgun. It's charge time is too short for me to hit things properly.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Mar 03, 2012 4:17 am

Misty Hollow:
- Lvl 7 Misty (assuming you're using shop Misty and not Swimsuit Misty)
-Peacemaker (I use a Pierce Gun Mod, but looks like you don't have that)(You probably want to tune this for force, btw. It's solid on its own, but things can only get better)
-Cutter (for harvesting items like Shell Supply and a nice +1wlk for only 15 cost, balances out the low ammo of the Peacemaker)
-Pawnager AM
x3 Capa
x1 EIW (I really don't think you'd need more than one, to be honest; 15 Dark Mists is fine)
Blast Guard
Stun Regain
Short Boost
-Wing Gear (tuned for Great Run, but the only tune in my Misty's current build. Great tunes are not recommended.)
- Cute Beret
At the end you'll have about 24wlk, 12fly, 10tgh, 9tec 16str. You'll want higher TEC and maybe a bit more WLK. For best results, tune her Pawnager AM as, if I remember correctly, it's obtainable through UC methods. Suki just checked, she has 3S spares that she doesn't remember getting, so yes, it's a viable UC-tune option.
Getting Misty tuned won't be that difficult, and she's a really great gunner&hopper. Even if you don't tune her, she's pretty boss and great for pushing the enemy back so that your team can gain some ground, so long as you don't mind dying occasionally.


On another note.
Tesla -> Reaper Scythe
Wat.
I...guess it would work? But Reaper Scythe is generally bad for diagonal enemies...

On Kamui Nagi.
Rip all of it's parts off. Do it, now.
Now follow this list. If you don't intend to tune much and don't mind spending a bit for Psycho LGs, this is the build I use for my Kamui Nagi.
-EVE Ornament
-Ace of Hearts Earrings
- Psycho Formula LG2 (err, find something better for this, something with 1TEC 2FLY; I thought the normal Psycho Formula LG would have the same FLY as LG2)
-Wing Plus AMJ (Two of these! Important! They give +2 FLY each, so you'll get +4 FLY. Downside: Cost inefficient and wider hitbox)
-Tentrion AM x2 (or x1, I use x1 but I use a Shadow Hunter AM on the other slot) (Ghost Raider AMs are nice too, as they give +2 TEC <3 )
- Ace Bravader BS/Sword Wing BS (personally I'd use Sword Wing BS, more FLY and about the same cost)
- Wide beam Gun/ABR and Viper/Buckler
Currently my Kamui Nagi is only lvl 2, so I can't give you cart lists aside from x1 Capa and Quick Jump. Do not EIW, not worth it.
Play as standard AIR, but you will have higher mobility. You can use Vanishing Jump to evade attacks as well as to confuse newbies.
With this, you'll have about 29-34 FLY (I improved my build as I went along so I don't know the exact amount ||orz ) so you'll have good mobility, but you'll probably only have about 13-ish TEC. If/When you tune for this, tune for TEC.


Suki is decent at making bots that don't require tuning, if only because she's too lazy to go get mats. :v
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for bot builds   Looking for bot builds EmptySat Mar 03, 2012 5:05 am

Suguri wrote:
SmileBrush wrote:
also, u shud tune ur railgun to have more bullet speed.
Please explain to me what's so hard about hitting with a 570 speed bullet that people feel they need to tune more speed on it. I see so many people here do that and don't understand it at all.

Wait, before that, tell me why people think shop Railgun is good.

eh, more the merrier~ =3= bullet size is too small that it wont hit if it misses by ever so slightly, so u might as well increase speed to further increase accuracy...? eh i didnt really think about it when i wrote that but that SHOULD be the reason prolly lmao

i personally dont like any railgun type weps other than saggy and mialy, but if thats not available--oh wait is Linear Cannon L size or LL size?
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Linear Cannon is L size, so yes it's usable.
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