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PostSubject: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 3:27 am



Tunes for 3s sdc
High shooter + great rapid alpha + great rapid beta
High air force + x2 great rapid beta
(Both give the same results)

Tunes for 2s sdc
x2 great rapid beta (More speed with less ammo)
High shooter + great rapid alpha (Less speed with more ammo)
High air force + great rapid beta (Less speed with more ammo)

The minimum requirements for my sdc build are:
-At least 1 str
-At least 1 wlk
-Propeller bit
-34 or 38 fly
-Tengu bs
-2-3s fully tuned sdc
-Base part tec (any extra tec from tuning is just a bonus)
-Float dash
-Quick boost
-Accele roll (not required but makes life much easier)

Top tier build go

Gwyain:

Geograsis F:

10th cart and extra capacity for tuning are optional
I'll make it clear first that gwyain is still the best sdc core
Sdc builds are fun so I'll be refurbishing some of mine soon (waiting for 3s sdc)
The play style of these things are simple:
Get to highest ground use tengu bs and spam sdc
Later
Get to highest ground use tengu bs then propeller bit and spam sdc
If you play those things right you'll never miss once and run out of ammo easily before you die
Use simple maneuvers- when you have little boost left accel roll and use tengu bs right after, then follow with a float dash


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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 3:37 am

Wry no High Alpha/Beta?
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 3:41 am

More efficient & lots of left over slots
High betas? no
You can use high alphas if you're limited to slots though
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 3:42 am

Actually, its highly inefficient because you only get +1 stat per slot and 5 cost. Herp Derp.
High Alpha and Beta tunes are actually way more efficient.

Here's the uncertainty principle for tuning stats.
Weak Stats --> Cost Efficient --> Battle Inefficient
Strong Stats --> Cost Inefficient --> Battle Efficient.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 3:49 am

LOL, LXE, no... it IS efficent because you get +1 stat for 5 cost. It's 7.5 cost for 2 stats on high unless you do alpha, which has side effects, or beta which can only go so far. I was just saying Alpha might get more stats out of the cost, but a SDC is a SDC, and the speed quota has been met, AKA 38 fly using the lowest tunes. You got the fly and the low cost, there we go, if that could be done with every bot it should.

No, what's inefficient is people who think Great Tunes are ever a good idea. 10 cost a stat, herp derp.

I think 38 fly and a SDC is plenty efficient, your last point makes little/no sense. o_o


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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 3:49 am

You shouldn't speak of things you don't know about lxe
High beta reduces str which is needed for prop bit (an important part of sdc builds)
And you won't be using so much tunes to reach 38 fly
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:02 am

What I'm interested in is why you chose to save that much wlk. Faster float dash, or something else?
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:06 am

big wall of quotes:
Gwyain Revision, still a crappy build:


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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:08 am

LXE wrote:
1 STR and 38 TEC gives you sufficient time to use your wonder bit. You should only be worried if it was 0 STR. And plus, don't assume I know nothing about builds because that's what I've been doing for the past few weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:09 am

xzpwnz wrote:
LXE wrote:
1 STR and 38 TEC gives you sufficient time to use your wonder bit. You should only be worried if it was 0 STR. And plus, don't assume I know nothing about builds because that's what I've been doing for the past few weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:09 am

LXE wrote:
1 STR and 38 TEC gives you sufficient time to use your wonder bit. You should only be worried if it was 0 STR. And plus, don't assume I know nothing about builds because that's what I've been doing for the past few weeks.
With a slayer bit or sniping unit? Sure. Hell, you can even get away with 40 tec 0 str on a sniping unit and still have it be usable.

On a prop bit? Dear God no.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:10 am

LXE wrote:
xzpwnz wrote:
LXE wrote:
1 STR and 38 TEC gives you sufficient time to use your wonder bit. You should only be worried if it was 0 STR. And plus, don't assume I know nothing about builds because that's what I've been doing for the past few weeks.
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You funny lxe
You just funny ;3
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:12 am

xzpwnz wrote:
LXE wrote:
xzpwnz wrote:
wat
Yes, you heard me. It really does.
You funny lxe
You just funny ;3
Yes I'm a comedian. Don't even go there xz.
Suguri wrote:
On a prop bit? Dear God no.
Really? my mistake.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:18 am

Suguri wrote:
What I'm interested in is why you chose to save that much wlk. Faster float dash, or something else?
^ Is why I was curious when it came to alpha tunes. The WB argument makes perfect sense though, honestly didn't look at what bit you had.

And lol LXE, u so funny.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:33 am

Kitouski wrote:
And lol LXE, u so funny.
Whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:48 am

Now all I need is a gwyain/geo f-type and a 2s sdc.....;_;
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:52 am

Ahue
1s sdc can be gotten from boss questing but it'll feel gimped compared to 2s
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:59 am

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Ahue
1s sdc can be gotten from boss questing but it'll feel gimped compared to 2s

Yeah. I have a 1s SDC tuned with Great rapid beta. It doesn't feel any different from a tuneless sdc ;_;
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 5:15 am

It's dangerous to go alone, take this:

Spoiler:

cosmicalc build link

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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 5:19 am

Please make sure your code doesn't stretch the forums next time, in case you might upset the mods.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 5:26 am

Seems like people don't know how to abuse wb
Suguu wanna post the tec break points for sdc?
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 5:30 am

It's at 40 TEC, ahue.

I'd still max it to 40 TEC even if it isn't, if you can afford to put it on max, why not :3

I've had Propeller Bit on my Thoarla AM3 Geograsis-F before she was fully tuned, it's definitely awesome, but it's not worth sacrificing the amount of damage you would be outputting with 40 TEC, plus you will lose those bits very quickly when anyone clued up start to look at you funny.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 9:57 am

Cori doesn't have enough fund to make SDC build when some of Cori's builds are unfinished.
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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 10:14 am

If you're going to screw off using STR for prop bits, why not just tack on a Shaden BS and screw fly tuning altogether.



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PostSubject: Re: SDC builds   SDC builds EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 10:15 am

You can't aim with SDC with shaden BS.
High fly + accele roll is better.
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