Vanguard OP or not?

Mew wrote:

OP is a matter of opinion. Depending on where you stand.

If a LND is breaking the rock, paper, scissors chain with VERY LITTLE ease then, it is OP.
EVE does not count. She isn't easy mode.

I think the word you're looking for here is broken


Vanguard is OP in the fact that he can easily out perform other melee-only lands available, but not broken because he still falls within the rock/paper/scissors chain like other melee bots do IMO.

Well that makes sense .

If that's the case Axer is OP.

Fencer and Lancer are okay.

Mew wrote:

Well that makes sense .

If that's the case Axer is OP.

Fencer and Lancer are okay.

dont listen to trill you dumb ass hes not op hes high tier, trill is about as smart as that retarded cousin we all have.

do you people even understand what nonsense your spewing in this thread ?

Ritter BS on Axer is an awful idea, will rarely work when it should count.

ZSN BS is a good idea, specially if you're lazy to 36 WLK.

putting those step bs on anything thats not a wide area melee is a dumb fucking idea,step techniques work with reaper scyte and dae am cause there wide area melee.

So putting em on a vanguard is fail

BT, but axer have a OMFGHAXX aoe, it's not a bad idea put the ZSN BS on him, in fact, the most dangerous Vanguards Axer are those ones

zerocl wrote:

BT, but axer have a OMFGHAXX aoe, it's not a bad idea put the ZSN BS on him, in fact, the most dangerous Vanguards Axer are those ones

Wide area aoe no upward aoe, It doesent work with axer i tried.

Lol, i kill vanguards with falx am.

Only thing op about vanguard is that it is probably the best pure melee available in the game.
Pwning things like Ivis, Mighty Byne, Hound dog, Hatigarm Machine in terms of melee spam damage.
Outside of that though, it's pretty hopeless against air and anything with a weapon that has enough range and damage to stop a vanguard from closing in on you.

Vanguard does it's job of being a meleeing land unit built specifically for killing anything that comes into the reach of it's sword, and that is basically what the pt of a meleeing land is anyways.

BNOISE wrote:

Only thing op about vanguard is that it is probably the best pure melee available in the game.
Pwning things like Ivis, Mighty Byne, Hound dog, Hatigarm Machine in terms of melee spam damage.
Outside of that though, it's pretty hopeless against air and anything with a weapon that has enough range and damage to stop a vanguard from closing in on you.

Vanguard does it's job of being a meleeing land unit built specifically for killing anything that comes into the reach of it's sword, and that is basically what the pt of a meleeing land is anyways.

Geo bunkers once a word with you,

And blazed baron FF

boytitan2 wrote:

Geo bunkers once a word with you,

And blazed baron FF

Melee with additional effects no count as pure melee ahahaha.
Jet Hammer and Kuten probably wants word with me too.
But i mean like pure purest form of melee. No lagspam or setting people on fire or etc. etc.
Just spam right click for one hit each time.

Heh, my MBG is pure melee without any special gimmicks.

Just 3x gg on the pile bunker.

imo Vanguards are OP as melee bots, but not really OP in general because you can always use a gun and shoot from a safe distance...

A++ thread would read again.

wasnt there a thread like this months back...

anw, OP with laggers only.

Ah-chan trolls dem. ._.

Stickboy wrote:

Ah-chan trolls dem. ._.

OP = just more powerful than the other bot in the same type and attack type (vanguard = lnd, pure melee)
something that breaking the paper/rock/scissors system called "game breaking thing" or broken

for example
compare other regular SUP bot with mefi and regina they re both OP at healing (regina: best over time healing, melfi: best quick healer) but if don't play them carefully they are just free frag

with me there are no broken thing in this game
OP, yes they re alot (bots, builds, weapons)
but BROKEN, no ...

SkyPanic wrote:

Stickboy wrote:

Ah-chan trolls dem. ._.

OP = just more powerful than the other bot in the same type and attack type (vanguard = lnd, pure melee)
something that breaking the paper/rock/scissors system called "game breaking thing" or broken

for example
compare other regular SUP bot with mefi and regina they re both OP at healing (regina: best over time healing, melfi: best quick healer) but if don't play them carefully they are just free frag

with me there are n broken thing in this game

OP yes they re alot (bots, builds, weapons)
but BROKEN = no

Sky panic change that definition to high tier same for anyone else who has the same view of OP. Cause to other people op=gamebreaking.

So if its not game breaking its not op just high tier.

BNOISE wrote:

Only thing op about vanguard is that it is probably the best pure melee available in the game.
Pwning things like Ivis, Mighty Byne, Hound dog, Hatigarm Machine in terms of melee spam damage.
Outside of that though, it's pretty hopeless against air and anything with a weapon that has enough range and damage to stop a vanguard from closing in on you.

Vanguard does it's job of being a meleeing land unit built specifically for killing anything that comes into the reach of it's sword, and that is basically what the pt of a meleeing land is anyways.

Ivis combo is longer than any vanguard, +crimson veil, adn the vanguards hav a low tgh, when they get hit once, they are doomed.

necrodrakath wrote:

BNOISE wrote:

Only thing op about vanguard is that it is probably the best pure melee available in the game.
Pwning things like Ivis, Mighty Byne, Hound dog, Hatigarm Machine in terms of melee spam damage.
Outside of that though, it's pretty hopeless against air and anything with a weapon that has enough range and damage to stop a vanguard from closing in on you.

Vanguard does it's job of being a meleeing land unit built specifically for killing anything that comes into the reach of it's sword, and that is basically what the pt of a meleeing land is anyways.

Ivis combo is longer than any vanguard, +crimson veil, adn the vanguards hav a low tgh, when they get hit once, they are doomed.

But Vanguards have plenty of capa to tune TGH.

necrodrakath wrote:

BNOISE wrote:

Only thing op about vanguard is that it is probably the best pure melee available in the game.
Pwning things like Ivis, Mighty Byne, Hound dog, Hatigarm Machine in terms of melee spam damage.
Outside of that though, it's pretty hopeless against air and anything with a weapon that has enough range and damage to stop a vanguard from closing in on you.

Vanguard does it's job of being a meleeing land unit built specifically for killing anything that comes into the reach of it's sword, and that is basically what the pt of a meleeing land is anyways.

Ivis combo is longer than any vanguard, +crimson veil, adn the vanguards hav a low tgh, when they get hit once, they are doomed.

Vanguard has longer reach more dmg, They can kite ivis. Ivis is a joke

Plus tough runner,stun regain and tuneing tgh cause of lots of capa wants a word with you.

Ivis has joke capa

boytitan2 wrote:

necrodrakath wrote:

BNOISE wrote:

Only thing op about vanguard is that it is probably the best pure melee available in the game.
Pwning things like Ivis, Mighty Byne, Hound dog, Hatigarm Machine in terms of melee spam damage.
Outside of that though, it's pretty hopeless against air and anything with a weapon that has enough range and damage to stop a vanguard from closing in on you.

Vanguard does it's job of being a meleeing land unit built specifically for killing anything that comes into the reach of it's sword, and that is basically what the pt of a meleeing land is anyways.

Ivis combo is longer than any vanguard, +crimson veil, adn the vanguards hav a low tgh, when they get hit once, they are doomed.

Vanguard has longer reach more dmg, They can kite ivis. Ivis is a joke

Plus tough runner,stun regain and tuneing tgh cause of lots of capa wants a word with you.

Ivis has joke capa

of course bro, i remenber when i killed your vanguard with my CONTRADICT running backwards and shooting with a railgun.

Fin any skilled ivis player, she can kill ANYTHING in the right hand, properly tuned and with the right cards ivis is invencible.

1. Grab vanguard
2. Download hentai
3. ???
4. So broken D: