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When You See Someone Rage/Have a Loud Outburst In Arena, What Comes to Mind?
He/She is just jealous of my bots/my ability to do well, what a butthurt evil person.
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He/She has just lost his temper. We all snap sometimes, it's understandable, this doesn't define who he is.
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He/She should voice his anger with even more enthusiasm!
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I don't care what he/she has to say.
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PostSubject: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 3:28 pm

NOTE: This is more-so just a ramble of my open thoughts.

I've been seriously considering some changes in viewpoint on myself and this game's community, and my anger. I just don't know which viewpoint or persona I should adopt anymore.

In the past, I would quickly change from content and rational, into a furious rager, insulting people, their bots, among many other things, based on my angry emotions rather than my actual, rational beliefs on them. From where I'm sitting right now, typing this, I don't have a specific issue with, for example, Amatues Muchi. It's when I'm in arena, chased by an unoriginal hopper Amatues Muchi build, then teased and mocked afterwards, do I let my current emotions guide what I say I do or don't approve of.

This isn't the issue however -- My issue is, what should I really do about it?

Some people judge me as a person based on my outbursts.
Some people just believe I'm short tempered, and that it doesn't define who I am.
Some people think I should just be even more angry.
Some assume I'm angry because I'm not good at the game.
Some like me for it.
Some hate me for it.

The list goes on, but the point is, there's so many contradicting views on it, that I'm not really sure what to do. Currently, I've been acting in the persona of a more mentally stable, serious rational Alpherior, but, I have to ask myself, is it worth it just to please a portion of this community?

I have some good friends here, however I know this community is filled with brain-dead latinos (among other ethnicity, not like there aren't any stupid Americans or Canadians or whatever), broken bot spamming assholes, among many other kinds of people that I'm just starting to feel like it's not even worth putting effort towards pleasing them. Why should I let this terrible community govern who I need to be? Why do I act to give THIS community a good image of me? Maybe I should just rage all day and do/say whatever I want. Should I conceal my arrogance and be modest, or say what I want? Should I hold back my true thoughts of people, or tell them like it is? The friends I have here already know who I am, so I'm starting to not see much reason behind acting respectively towards the morons and douche-bags, who I personally feel disrespected by with their use of broken bot spamming. If people choose to use broken bots selfishly without any regard for what others think, then why should I regard them anymore?

TL;DR Some hate my rage, some don't, many different viewpoints on it, and I don't know if I should just be free to rage or conceal it, or wether or not it's even worth acting upon the desires of this shitty community.


Please, post below what you think I should do with myself. Who should I be, or, should I even act upon just what the community wants at all? Any ideas that come to mind, just post them.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 3:35 pm

There is nothing wrong with releasing your rage so as long as you're not releasing it extensively.

That is my honest opinion and, I myself have raged in rooms before.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 3:41 pm

Depends if it's justified
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 3:51 pm

"He/She has just lost his temper. We all snap sometimes, it's understandable, this doesn't define who he is."

I did it a lot when I first began playing. Haven't cared about how much cash people sink into this game for some time now.
I do get annoyed with the excessive rage though. As well as the arrogant nerdy attitudes I often encounter.

Sorry that my builds aren't "correct" and that I enjoy using overzealous bots.
I'm sorry that I have fun even while not playing to win. Oh, what? That's just an excuse for me sucking?

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Then again these types of things happen in just about any game that's online, especially when it's pvp based.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 3:59 pm

Emeraldsun wrote:
"He/She has just lost his temper. We all snap sometimes, it's understandable, this doesn't define who he is."

I did it a lot when I first began playing. Haven't cared about how much cash people sink into this game for some time now.
I do get annoyed with the excessive rage though. As well as the arrogant nerdy attitudes I often encounter.

Sorry that my builds aren't "correct" and that I enjoy using overzealous bots.
I'm sorry that I have fun even while not playing to win. Oh, what? That's just an excuse for me sucking?

^
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Then again these types of things happen in just about any game that's online, especially when it's pvp based.

Thank you sir, you said basically what was on my mind.

I rage a lot in rooms and in clan chat, you aren't alone. If someone tells me to shut up, I:
1) do so if I can tell I've been raging too long/pissing people off. Generally, trying to be decent about it if it's really pissing people off.
2) tell them to shut the fuck up and let me rage, because nobody else can dictate what I can and cannot do.

You should behave according to who you are, ofc within reason.
Here's how I see it:
If you're an arrogant fag who just trolls people all day and thinks nothing of pissing off other people, you should do us all a favor and stuff it.
If not, feel free to do and say whatever's on your mind. Only you are allowed to dictate what you do.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 4:09 pm

This game is broken beyond repair and there is something wrong with you if you don't actually have the urge the rage. And if you simply choose to not be vocal about it then... well it's not healthy bottling anger up!
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 4:34 pm

I tend to feel the urge to rage when I get ganged up on. Then I take a deep breathe and tell myself, "Why, they felt the need to bring a team of four, five, maybe more to take on li'l ol' me?" And that makes me feel better about myself. c:
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 5:00 pm

I've played enough online games to not rage anymore, especially because I tend to be bad at them. And that I tend to pick looks over performance (fuck moes, I have brickgale)

It's also funny that some people rage when other people are doing something stupid / using something inferior.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 5:20 pm

xzpwnz wrote:
Depends if it's justified

I think more times than not, it's justified in my case. An outburst about broken bots, laggers, or stupidity only makes sense with a game/community like this. My issue however, is when I let my emotions take over my rationality. It's at these times when I end up actually complaining about things like Renny Lops, people saying "XD", among many other silly irritations. I try my best to suppress the unjust complaints.

Emeraldsun wrote:
I'm sorry that I have fun even while not playing to win. Oh, what? That's just an excuse for me sucking?

I have a problem with the people who are the opposite way around (usually broken bot spammers.) I used to know a guy that was in my clan, and he's actually admitted to me he doesn't actually have fun playing AG, but he needs to win. I'll never understand it, really.

FireKiller87 wrote:
2) tell them to shut the fuck up and let me rage, because nobody else can dictate what I can and cannot do.

Exactly, and you shouldn't let them dictate what you can do.

reVelske wrote:
This game is broken beyond repair and there is something wrong with you if you don't actually have the urge the rage. And if you simply choose to not be vocal about it then... well it's not healthy bottling anger up!

This really makes a lot of sense. People seem to hold this confused idea that you're only a totally mature person if you never get mad at games ever. Honestly, pretending you don't have a problem with this game doesn't make you any better than anyone else, and being angry doesn't necessarily mean you're less mature.

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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 6:35 pm

reVelske wrote:
it's not healthy bottling anger up!

I wholeheartedly concur.

If something is on your mind, say it. I hate people that don't voice their opinions and those that are constantly blithe. I would much rather be around people that are honest and express themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 6:51 pm

I'm sometime rage when I repeating keep getting obliterated by air, but I don't type them out.
It's because most of the time I would hunt down the player and kill them and it'll satisfied my anger, although like said, this game balancing issue is horribly bad and it hard to do get them back, unlike other game I play.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 8:42 pm

Depends on how much sense they make and/or how humorous they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 9:36 pm

If it's because he got killed by 3 AGs, then fine, otherwise, I mostly laugh xD
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 11:16 pm

i mostly play with my ui close...so rarely read anything except when match begin/end


i'm fine with raging, this game deserve it after all


and most of the time i find it very entertain me, especially something like ag/seraph raging at hopper
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyWed Nov 23, 2011 11:18 pm

NotZetsubou wrote:
i mostly play with my ui close...so rarely read anything except when match begin/end


i'm fine with raging, this game deserve it after all


and most of the time i find it very entertain me, especially something like ag/seraph raging at hopper

I had an AG rage that I used AG against him.

Made me laugh so hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 12:07 am

i dont have any op bots... but i still do better than a lot of ppl... but that means i have to try and put in a little bit of effort to maneuver and aim... its already hard enough to be dos... without alpherior fking things up for us...

the reason alpherior was blocked by adius was because adius asked him to play properly instead of just staying in the back and talking ... cuz that means he isnt really helping... and u know what he did? he told me he will intentionally not help me and let us lose... hmmm wow... you are a great contribution to dos... and on top of that you talk shyt ... you're just a pleasant person to have in their union arent u...


btw... you should have added an option for ... "alpherior is just an annoying fuck" ... cuz thats what i would have voted for...
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 12:11 am

Aegis wrote:
There is nothing wrong with releasing your rage so as long as you're not releasing it extensively.

That is my honest opinion and, I myself have raged in rooms before.
This.

Well, back then I used to rage about how people were doing better with little stuff.

Nowadays, I just rage about how laggy I get and how said lag has made me unable to play as anything other than LND gunners.


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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 12:16 am

I do not see "Facepalm" at the poll...;; While I do understand that some people are angry and raging all over the arena, I don't mind that if it does comes maybe once in a while or twice, but if someone keeps raging, swearing, and making other people uncomfortable, (I'm looking at you, Jesus... The player that is.) then I really don't have much to say to them other than feel annoyed and disgusted. But if it's just a once in a while thing, I usually try to do my best to calm them down. ^^;

I guess second fits the most...
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 12:18 am

Adius wrote:
i dont have any op bots... but i still do better than a lot of ppl... but that means i have to try and put in a little bit of effort to maneuver and aim... its already hard enough to be dos... without alpherior fking things up for us...

the reason alpherior was blocked by adius was because adius asked him to play properly instead of just staying in the back and talking ... cuz that means he isnt really helping... and u know what he did? he told me he will intentionally not help me and let us lose... hmmm wow... you are a great contribution to dos... and on top of that you talk shyt ... you're just a pleasant person to have in their union arent u...


btw... you should have added an option for ... "alpherior is just an annoying fuck" ... cuz thats what i would have voted for...

You use alphags, but I guess they don't count as "OP" to you. Tell yourself you're putting in effort though, if that makes you feel better. I think it's time you get your head out of your ass and stop dwelling in the past -- I'm always trying to help DOS win matches, and there have been times where I've been in the top 5 for CP gain for DOS for a whole month, unlike you.

I messed with you then because I thought you were being a butthurt fuckhead, which you clearly still are seeing as you're still whining about something that happened OVER 5 MONTHS AGO. You think I don't deserve your respect? You don't deserve mine, you third-person talking illiterate grudger, who seems to be afraid of swearing (what a child.) It's time you get in touch with reality, because I'm not what you think I am. I'm prepared to fight for my union, my big clan and it's great members, and pull our total CP up.
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This bothered me
"If people choose to use broken bots selfishly without any regard for what others think, then why should I regard them anymore?"

How is it selfish for people to choose what they want to use in a game? Isn't it selfish of you to regard them as disrespectful for doing nothing? Aren't you misplacing your frustration on the community instead of the game? The players didn't choose to break this game, the developers did.

Even then, I will admit that the people who purposely troll with broken bots do slightly irk me. But frankly, the players that can't handle losing, and get known in the community for raging sticks out more in my mind of how this community is.

Although I've seen this type of attitude everywhere, so I pretty much learned to ignore it. So I could care less with what you decide to do.
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Falads wrote:
This bothered me
"If people choose to use broken bots selfishly without any regard for what others think, then why should I regard them anymore?"

How is it selfish for people to choose what they want to use in a game? Isn't it selfish of you to regard them as disrespectful for doing nothing? Aren't you misplacing your frustration on the community instead of the game? The players didn't choose to break this game, the developers did.

Even then, I will admit that the people who purposely troll with broken bots do slightly irk me. But frankly, the players that can't handle losing, and get known in the community for raging sticks out more in my mind of how this community is.

Although I've seen this type of attitude everywhere, so I pretty much learned to ignore it. So I could care less with what you decide to do.

"The players didn't choose to break this game, the developers did."

Nobody forces anyone to use anything here, stop acting like the community isn't given a choice. I have an Aquila Girl, but I've junked it, so it's quite clear that I'm the one deciding wether I use it or not. It's selfish, because they just want to play easymodo with their abusive bot, without even caring about how many people feel the pain from it. People CHOOSE this.
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I do not mind Alpherior "outbursts", or Jesus so called "racism" (because it's something that quite a few *coughindobrlatinocough* hate).

I just really don't like this retards who decide to mock (and sometimes, extensively) people that are stating that they had X or Y problem during the match.
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God is a Cat Girl wrote:
I do not mind Alpherior "outbursts", or Jesus so called "racism" (because it's something that quite a few *coughindobrlatinocough* hate).

I just really don't like this retards who decide to mock (and sometimes, extensively) people that are stating that they had X or Y problem during the match.

A lot of the time, I'd hear someone complaining about a certain event in arena, and I would tell them what they need to do to avoid it. Too many times do they just ignore me, which ends up just getting me heated. I can't tolerate people resistant to change their way of game-play.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 12:50 am

I have not any of the OP Moe girls, I always created my own builds, but since July / August was that the game began to make it impossible to play normally, full of hoppers, alphags, toybox girl, albatreos, amateus muchi, Aquila girl and list goes on ....

Rt In my country, it is quite expensive, everything that I've been playing (about a year) I have not bought more than 1500 rt, and I was lucky that at least leave me some decent bots.

Arena is hell now, so I'm using an air raider (I think I have the right to use it because I got from eve gara) and my amateus muchi (having my own setup) But I'm always trying new things so many times you see me in a low position, besides that my computer sucks and it skips so many frames per second.

Alpherior I understand you, but you have to understand the situation of some of us.

Sorry about my bad english i hope you understand.
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PostSubject: Re: Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community   Contemplating Viewpoints on Raging/The Community EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 12:56 am

Problem is, I can't see any other method of high level play in this game outside of hopping. How's the meta gonna play? Everyone going alpha strike on each other?

But I don't want to argue about that.
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