Blaze baron Options, Which one?

So I have been retuning my baron and attaching attachments all over him, and also using cart reset, I ended up with two builds
Option 1

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Option2

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so which one CB FF? I might not be able to get the option 2 into the realm of 20 tough though

why not just use k-shield + FF am?

More hitting power? I don't know, I do have a K shield and It is sometimes used on the baron, But I am used to having more than one meele weapons , would the difference be obvious/very apparent if I used K-Shield?

Retrias wrote:

More hitting power? I don't know, I do have a K shield and It is sometimes used on the baron, But I am used to having more than one meele weapons , would the difference be obvious/very apparent if I used K-Shield?

Take it from me, having 1 melee weapon is already enough, not to mention the FF sword is already overkill. Slap on the K-shield and have only 1 sword on it. Don't put more than one because you're going to waste your cost capacity.

option 1 if you dont have k-shield(or you have but you also have lag shield/teleport)


not see any reason for option 2, one more hit from second arm not worth it cost ヾ(◕ε◕ ｡)

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i saw someone with 3 high gladiator before
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-16tgh with no K-shield, no wb, which mean none of them good(19tgh is same as 16, 21 or 22 is next break pts).
-The 2nd one even no good to mention since it has no shield.
-36wlk is max wlk so...
-Reduce the wlk and get some grappler.
-I would rather get boost run and keep at yellow tier.

Spoiler:

This may be good enuff, lower cost than u, with K-shield and higher dam. Someone prefer no wp tuned for faster speed and more profit cost.

Yes it can reach 21 tough, the image was taken before the 21 tough.... oh well, time to slap on that K shield

the only time where its okay to go double barron sword for the lulz is epoch, or teamfight. (or any missioins/quests) dont do it in arena D=

I did a Kshield build after this, it has 39 STR(who cares, it is one point difference to 40 str), 36 walk, 21 tough, with some Glad tunes on the sword(with the rationale being I am rather slow, so I went for speed), it also hops...... Function good enough in the arena, get a first and second

Retrias wrote:

I did a Kshield build after this, it has 39 STR(who cares, it is one point difference to 40 str), 36 walk, 21 tough, with some Glad tunes on the sword(with the rationale being I am rather slow, so I went for speed), it also hops...... Function good enough in the arena, get a first and second

Gladiator tunes do NOT increase the speed at which you swing.

It DOES increase the speed you move forward when you swing.

(easy example: Squealer punch moves a long distance. You can move that distance faster with gladiator tunes.)
(Other example: Red Squealer AM2 [Sword] swings slowly. Gladiator tunes DOES NOT MAKE IT SWING FASTER.)

None of this build problem shenanigans would have happened if you asked an expert.
https://cosmicbreak.forumotion.com/t6473-blazed-baron-ff-build

Out of the 2 the top one is far more better

Eh? I don't really like that build
@ Hyoka: really? So speed there correspond to how much I move forward per swings?

Retrias wrote:

Eh? I don't really like that build

I'll tell you why the top one is better and why you should like the top one.
1. It has a shield - You'll need this to protect yourself, you need to last as long as you can.
2. It has better TGH - Less chance of getting stunned, this is vital if you play to rush. The second one doesn't haven enough to even perform a rush.
3. It only has one sword - One sword is already overkill, if you have two you're wasting cost capacity and the combo it provides isn't that much better than only having one sword.

Here are a few fixes you might want to perform
- Reduce WLK to 36
- Tune TGH to at least 21
- Replace Squealer AM and Viper Shield with a K-shield.
- Get rid of High Gladliator tunes on the sword and put in Great Grappler tunes.

If you do that, you'll be hitting like a truck and burning your opponents with the infernal flames of hell.

LXE wrote:

Retrias wrote:

Eh? I don't really like that build

I'll tell you why the top one is better and why you should like the top one.
1. It has a shield - You'll need this to protect yourself, you need to last as long as you can.
2. It has better TGH - Less chance of getting stunned, this is vital if you play to rush. The second one doesn't haven enough to even perform a rush.
3. It only has one sword - One sword is already overkill, if you have two you're wasting cost capacity and the combo it provides isn't that much better than only having one sword.

Here are a few fixes you might want to perform
- Reduce WLK to 36
- Tune TGH to at least 21
- Replace Squealer AM and Viper Shield with a K-shield.
- Get rid of High Gladliator tunes on the sword and put in Great Grappler tunes.

If you do that, you'll be hitting like a truck and burning your opponents with the infernal flames of hell.

Lxe, I mean the one on the thread, I like the first option, I DO, that was basically my normal build, now it has K shield, Will post screenies later, It have 21 tough, 36 walk, 39 STR , and probably a great grappler

@LXE: He mean Kamikaze's build.

@Retrias: Y u dont like that build??

Not every time using max cost is good, xz said abt 1250 cost is best.

Errr more on the aesthetic choice, I like huge stats, The build is really good, but when I tried it... It feels off. Current build
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that is the current one, empty slot is saved for something or not used at all

U should regret those tune in AM, i suppose those are 4str, which mean if u tune wp, u hav 39 force-35str = 62 dam, current stat is 39str-33force = 56 dam.

I will probably switch around that way to I found the maximum damage, the sword can do, probably 2 great grappler + something

If you are going to use red squealer arm to buff the sword damage, put three great grapplers and get as much str as you can. With 34 str and three great grapplers you can hit for 220+ damage under certain conditions thanks to the squealer punch. And cv is a good friend with such a low tgh.

I am on a K-Shield now , so.....

Get Asura AM and u can put on ur RS AM. I can get to full grappler, 30~32str and yellow br.

tggt wrote:

Get Asura AM and u can put on ur RS AM. I can get to full grappler, 30~32str and yellow br.

One sword is more than enough, not two.

I think the Yellow Tier boost run WLK - FLY stats (closest to your build) are something like these, I'm not to sure. I only estimated with the data I have.

33 - 1
32 - 3
31 - 5
30 - 7

Pick the one you enjoy playing the most.

LXE wrote:

tggt wrote:

Get Asura AM and u can put on ur RS AM. I can get to full grappler, 30~32str and yellow br.

One sword is more than enough, not two.

I think the Yellow Tier boost run WLK - FLY stats (closest to your build) are something like these, I'm not to sure. I only estimated with the data I have.

33 - 1
32 - 3
31 - 5
30 - 7

It's RS AM and sword, not 2 swords=.=He asked for maximum dam and still has K-shield, this's only thing i can think abt(or unless he use some build-in LG)