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mechaRev Abbey Denied
Posts : 1298 Join date : 2011-08-17 Age : 30
| Subject: Red Squealer AM2 Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:11 pm | |
| got one today from DX gara before you try to dismiss me with a simple *Feed it to crim* or *Derp, NO, USE BB AM5 OR BC AM!* i ask you, is there anyway i can make this AM work? i know the attack sucks, and its pretty slow but i don't want to feel like i wasted 40RT just a simple build or something that can make the weapon seem less sucky it's not like im always going to use it, just the ocasional use in arena. thanks for your time, i really apreciate it. | |
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Fireflywater Ace Poster
Posts : 1220 Join date : 2011-05-22 Age : 28 Location : The Undead Daily Garapon
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:15 pm | |
| I assume not alot of people here know how to use it. Which is why they say it sucks. That said, I don't know how to use it because I don't have one. Anyway. Try tactics found on other builds using it as a finisher. How does Squealer AM -> AM2 suffice? How does Squealer BD -> AM2 suffice? How does K-Rapier -> AM2 suffice? and so forth.
First order if business, experiment. Then come back when you're stumped, bored, or taking a break. | |
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NotZetsubou Adept Poster
Posts : 550 Join date : 2011-03-04 Age : 101 Location : Eientei Inn, room #12
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:34 pm | |
| i only found it use in its jump attack. beside that it too slow to hit anything that already saw you.(unless they are bad player/Red Sq Am2 user is lag) - Spoiler:
or make it in to big long pillow! ( *ω* )
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Courius Betrayed Abbey
Posts : 935 Join date : 2010-10-27 Age : 48 Location : Somewhere flying
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:38 pm | |
| how the atk animation of that arm? like daedalian sword ? | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:39 pm | |
| I've used it for awhile, so this is how it works:
If the arm physically hits the target, the combo speeds up.
Thus, getting the first hit is everything when using it. It's just too slow otherwise.
(If you're using Cartridge Step, the combo speeds if you collide with the opponent) | |
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Asagi-san Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2011-04-28 Age : 30 Location : The City of Angels, CA
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:30 am | |
| The thing about Red Squealer AM2 is that it's very dependent on its hits registering. If you miss, you're just seen as a huge feed to enemies around you, and if you (God forbid) MISS the last hit, you are left with an incredibly long lag time where you are frozen in place, unable to defend yourself. So all in all, DON'T miss your shots - I cannot emphasize that enough. | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:51 am | |
| The AM's attack style is almost same as Kuten kick(or i should say kuten kick is same as this) except it's very slow. Combo: left-right-up(bring u to air)-down. The final combo make u stand for a while like B.C, so use the AM with other wp and end at 2nd or 3rd combo is best choice.
Note: - final slash does little knock-back. - the AM wont combo in mid-air and will do final slash instead.
So i think one usefull build is: Dae BD, max tgh with stun regain, K-shield, hop and slash down. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:54 am | |
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Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:05 am | |
| Yah it's just too sluggish to use seriously. Comparing it to other weapons you can see it lags behind, and would still be slow if you tuned gladiators all the way. | |
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Kitouski Ace Poster
Posts : 1054 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:45 am | |
| - Intet wrote:
- Yah it's just too sluggish to use seriously. Comparing it to other weapons you can see it lags behind, and would still be slow if you tuned gladiators all the way.
I dunno man, 355 cost is pretty affordable too. | |
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DavidRain Despairing Abbey
Posts : 157 Join date : 2011-02-12 Age : 29 Location : Asia
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:51 am | |
| - Kitouski wrote:
- Intet wrote:
- Yah it's just too sluggish to use seriously. Comparing it to other weapons you can see it lags behind, and would still be slow if you tuned gladiators all the way.
I dunno man, 355 cost is pretty unaffordable too. Fixed. Its a Large sword like daedalian BC arm just use red squelers cart step to HIT the target(fat art preferably) then combo into the sword and take hits like BC arm then rinse and repeat. If you have K-sheild like me use it,this helps with surviving after the hit. But if you prefer a better chance to hit because you're afraid to miss use the RS am. Just don't attack lands you don't have OMFG push back to save your ass like BC. Its an okay weapon when you have space to cart step. | |
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nzlk Regular Poster
Posts : 403 Join date : 2011-05-07
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:06 am | |
| @DavidRain
Just wondering, but do you know what sarcasm is? | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:21 am | |
| - Intet wrote:
- Yah it's just too sluggish to use seriously. Comparing it to other weapons you can see it lags behind, and would still be slow if you tuned gladiators all the way.
Gladiator doesn't raise slash speed o_o | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:32 am | |
| its a niche weapon
its designed to fight shielded L-Lands that try to run amok in your own team
and even to do that you need to be really good at using it right now you can also see it as a bonus that you dont see them used much and thus no one has practice fighting against it
its big problem is its speed, no matter if comboed or not, the first strike is always slow as hell
read: it can be countered by walking backwards, yes really, this means you need to learn how to bring in your slash when the enemy cannot walk back anymore also: jump attack cannot be interrupted, use it
personally i think its way to costy for a niche weapon | |
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DavidRain Despairing Abbey
Posts : 157 Join date : 2011-02-12 Age : 29 Location : Asia
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:20 am | |
| - nzlk wrote:
- @DavidRain
Just wondering, but do you know what sarcasm is? All I did was edit a typo? Sorry I was rude, peace offering, was not in good mood yesterday. But I really thought it was a typo. Regarding the uninterupted jump attacks, just tested it. It works highly recomended, just use short boost. Great Gladiator does increase the slash speed but the intervals between them is still the same. Eg:(Distance traveled by said weapon is affected by range, time taken to reach the said weapons range/distance is affected by speed and the lagg between slashes and recharge time is affected by interval.) @Shaftronics does an overwatch really have to be sarcastic for a gut who's asking for advise?
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Shaftronics Adept Poster
Posts : 649 Join date : 2011-01-13 Age : 33 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:37 am | |
| - DavidRain wrote:
- nzlk wrote:
- @DavidRain
Just wondering, but do you know what sarcasm is? WTF is your prob? All I did was edit a typo? Freakig troll, go derail another topic, if you don't have any advise STFU.
Regarding the uninterupted jump attacks, just tested it. It works highly recomended, just use short boost. Great Gladiator does increase the slash speed but the intervals between them is still the same. Eg:(Distance traveled by said weapon is affected by range, time taken to reach the said weapons range/distance is affected by speed and the lagg between slashes and recharge time is affected by interval.) David, what's YOUR problem? That was NOT a typo. - Quote :
- Sarcasm is a way of speaking in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant.
355 cost is NOT affordable. Which is why he somewhat made a sarcastic remark, if not jibe, on the people who might think its a good idea by being sarcastic. He wasn't even being remotely rude, compared to your STFU. | |
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DavidRain Despairing Abbey
Posts : 157 Join date : 2011-02-12 Age : 29 Location : Asia
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:35 am | |
| Edited, sorry man, didn't really want to troll was just in bad mood. I appologise, really tought it was a typo like, when someone types really fast or auto-correct on mobile devices like what I'm using now. P.S. Was the sarcasm THAT obvious? It looked like a typo to me. D: | |
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Red Squealer AM2 Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:29 pm | |
| Yeah the sarcasm was pretty obvious so long as you were familiar with the game. If you weren't, well then, shaft educated there pretty hard.
Also, don't diss on kit (gratz shaft on getting promoed to OW tho), he's one of the few members of Overwatch that doesn't think trolling is actually part of the job. | |
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