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PostSubject: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 11:28 pm

As title mention how can i counter against those AIR OP bots example Aquila girl or any pro AIR users that screw me alot. Any mind to lend a hand? Question
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 11:30 pm

Check weakness thread on aquila.

Best way to get rid of an AIR?

Lrn2Aim with zooks. Also, learn to be mobile while doing so (hopping not necessary).
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 11:32 pm

Bazookas make air-users cry.

Certain varieties of speed-tuned missiles do as well, but keep in mind that all homing weapons can be effectively shaken off past certain ranges. Not that you'll see more than a handful of people good enough to consistently dodge a triple great rapid tuned ballistic launcher in EN.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 11:41 pm

Is there really a threat that include weakness or counter on Aquila girl?I cant find any of them.Or just me who is not good in this game No i cant play this game in peace anymore
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 11:46 pm

ngelicdark wrote:

Lrn2Aim with zooks.
Suguri wrote:
Bazookas make air-users cry.

Certain varieties of speed-tuned missiles do as well
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 11:49 pm

there is no need for a thread just to teach u how to kill an AG, u kill an AG like u kill any other air with missiles or zooks,
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 12:54 am

For some reason i cant kill an AIR by now unless comes to stealing other's last kill or jumping fire pillars and run away from it.But still thanks anyway. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 3:32 am

After trying my hand at it : Bazooka hopper. i've got a lazflamme with the holy trinity of Shortboost/Quick Jump/Quick Landing. 32Wlk/8 Fly. Slapped a Handy Zook on her. When you hop at the maximum height, you are easily in reach of AG on most map. And they tend to drop like fly when they get one or two zook explosion in the face.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 4:01 am

>AG

Most effective method: Lead the AG to the Alba on your team.

>Everything Else

Play an Air and arm yourself with a Mini Bazooka.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 4:15 am

Psyguns
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 4:25 am

ziix wrote:
Psyguns

Damage is far too pitiful on it to be useful. I will fucking end whichever turd that decides to aim that hurr durr homing junk at my air bots, especially if they are Air themselves, nothing yells "please fucking kill me" louder than a wisp spammer or a retarded Izuna pewpewing with a psygun.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 6:06 am

Another AG.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 6:24 am

LXE wrote:
Another AG.
^

Alba killing AG is overrated, a smart player will still kill Alba

AG
-doesn't like hoppers
-hates Muchi/Alba/Le Reve/TBG
-doesn't likes railguns (you'd need to AIM)
-doesn't likes Seraphs (A good seraph can be quite a pain to AG)
-doesn't like arts that don't camp (big targets are her favorite)
-hates the combination of nicole and an art

Also, pray that you're up against one AG. Know when to retreat, as AG can and will hunt you. Most AG players are greedy, so you can also try to lure them into a group of arts.

EDIT: most "op" Airs are glass canons that can't take burst damage well.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 7:07 am

1) Buy Amateus, make it hop with 2 internal carts.

2) Mecha Jetter, 2 Brickgale Blue AMs, Tentrion HD, Brickgale Blue BS and 2 Mini Zookas with Moving Burst.

3) Saggi Max with Blast Zook and Broad Radar.

4) Genbura with Blast Zook and Broad Radar.

5) 40 Fly Destructor with Large Zook.

And the list goes on.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 7:15 am

stranger wrote:
.... or any pro AIR users that screw me alot. :
pro user always screw anyone whatever bot they use
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 7:22 am

reVelske wrote:
ziix wrote:
Psyguns

Damage is far too pitiful on it to be useful. I will fucking end whichever turd that decides to aim that hurr durr homing junk at my air bots, especially if they are Air themselves, nothing yells "please fucking kill me" louder than a wisp spammer or a retarded Izuna pewpewing with a psygun.

Well, I'd invite you to go one on one against any of my Lilies, not even Le Reve. A good Lily player can make mincemeat of an AIR bot, if he plays well.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 7:31 am

every bazooka types but you must know how to aim with it
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 7:36 am

errr then Psybanger???
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 7:41 am

If you manage to get AG on the floor, let the MBG's play with her.
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS!!!
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 9:43 am

LXE wrote:
If you manage to get AG on the floor, let the MBG's play with her.
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS!!!

every air which fall down re dead meat isn't it What a Face
lol
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 11:05 am

Shikaze wrote:

Well, I'd invite you to go one on one against any of my Lilies, not even Le Reve. A good Lily player can make mincemeat of an AIR bot, if he plays well.

A pure psygun lily? Make mincemeat of air bots? Sure, if they are badd poepl. Surely you don't honestly believe that the same would apply if the two players are equally skilled.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 1:13 pm

As much as I love Lily, no, a pure psygun (unless you have Le Reve, because her blast typed ones make AIRs stunned), will probably not compete versus a skilled AIR player. Especially one with accel roll/air loop to shake the stuff off. A good air player will have one or the other, then probably a stovl of some kind, quick land, float dash, and quick boost. Just so that even if you did knock him out, he would be on the ground crawling as fast as a roach realizing he's about to die.

Sorry, but I've been playing with psyguns for a while, but there's no psygun with that obscene a homing to follow all that. Not to mention the issue of minimum range on most multiple shot psyguns. You'll miss by a landslide.

Apart from everything, honestly, the only reason why AIRs are so OP in this game is because people can't aim. Once people start doing that, guess what.

CBEN turns into a little more like CBJP. Because there, AIRs DON'T rule. Just saying.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 5:50 pm

ngelicdark wrote:
As much as I love Lily, no, a pure psygun (unless you have Le Reve, because her blast typed ones make AIRs stunned), will probably not compete versus a skilled AIR player. Especially one with accel roll/air loop to shake the stuff off. A good air player will have one or the other, then probably a stovl of some kind, quick land, float dash, and quick boost. Just so that even if you did knock him out, he would be on the ground crawling as fast as a roach realizing he's about to die.

Sorry, but I've been playing with psyguns for a while, but there's no psygun with that obscene a homing to follow all that. Not to mention the issue of minimum range on most multiple shot psyguns. You'll miss by a landslide.

Apart from everything, honestly, the only reason why AIRs are so OP in this game is because people can't aim. Once people start doing that, guess what.

CBEN turns into a little more like CBJP. Because there, AIRs DON'T rule. Just saying.

Well....alba head...XD (which as a bonus, is good against anyone that decided to get close to you)

In short, aim makes you stupid broke (in general), it's pretty hard to play air if someone who has competent aiming ability is around, you just get shot in the face a lot. Hence the reason I've starting building arts and lands.
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptySat Aug 27, 2011 2:52 am

LXE wrote:
If you manage to get AG on the floor, let the MBG's play with her.
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS!!!

Why wait for her to get on the ground ? MG bunkers have GODLY tracking in air. if you can find a way to get a little altitude, believe me, punching AG in the face can be done easily. Got a certain Babymaster a few times like that.

reVelske wrote:
Shikaze wrote:

Well, I'd invite you to go one on one against any of my Lilies, not even Le Reve. A good Lily player can make mincemeat of an AIR bot, if he plays well.

A pure psygun lily? Make mincemeat of air bots? Sure, if they are badd poepl. Surely you don't honestly believe that the same would apply if the two players are equally skilled.

Never said my lilies were pure psygun based, did I ?
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PostSubject: Re: How to counter against AIR OP bots?   How to counter against AIR OP bots? EmptySat Aug 27, 2011 5:15 am

Shikaze wrote:
LXE wrote:
If you manage to get AG on the floor, let the MBG's play with her.
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS!!!
Why wait for her to get on the ground ? MG bunkers have GODLY tracking in air. if you can find a way to get a little altitude, believe me, punching AG in the face can be done easily. Got a certain Babymaster a few times like that.
I THROW MY HANDS UP IN THE AIR SOMETIMES! SAYIN' AY OH!!!

I kill a seraph crim by doing that as well. The problem with the tracking is that when there are too many enemies close by, the tracking gets confused.
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