Vangaurd Axer or Vangaurd Fencer?

Red-Brief J wrote:

reVelske wrote:

Both are shit, play Air and have a field day everyday.

This doesn't even relate to the thread.



Also, I prefer Vanguard lancer.

This should be LazFlamme's promo when CBjp decides to get working on it.
That or she should be given a core ability that gives her shiny wings that lets her fly around for 30 seconds, but without the duration timer(in that 30 seconds stops if Laz touches the ground).

Ontopic: VA's halberd looks intense. Force is the same, so they really should do equal damage if built to the standard Vanguard build(40 STR, triple-Great Grappler Alphas on the weapon).

Comparison:
VF Sword: 42 Force, 40 Range, 75 Speed without OD.

Axe is the same.

Axe is 2 force less and has 1300 int. Not sure about the int on sword.

So about that vanguard healer idea.

knyx wrote:

Axe is 2 force less and has 1300 int. Not sure about the int on sword.

So about that vanguard healer idea.

Sword has equal INT.

Axer is less overdrive dependant, I think.

knyx wrote:

Axe is 2 force less and has 1300 int. Not sure about the int on sword.

So about that vanguard healer idea.

wut
i wan a vanguard shielder.
overdrives make all homing projectiles fly towards him.
70% all guards in overdrive mode.
no weapons

LazerRazer wrote:

Nisa wrote:

It's the other way round cap'tain.

sword hits harder.

Axe hits further.

I think Fistie was talking through realistic perspective of our own world.

You chop down trees with an axe, not a sword.
You hack through shields and armors with an axe, not a sword (you pierce with a thrust).

Bigger punch in an axe, but usually shorter to keep the weapon balanced and not weighting too much on the tip.

THIS^

IronFist wrote:

LazerRazer wrote:

Nisa wrote:

It's the other way round cap'tain.

sword hits harder.

Axe hits further.

I think Fistie was talking through realistic perspective of our own world.

You chop down trees with an axe, not a sword.
You hack through shields and armors with an axe, not a sword (you pierce with a thrust).

Bigger punch in an axe, but usually shorter to keep the weapon balanced and not weighting too much on the tip.

THIS^

CB physics not IRL physics. Otherwise any moebot would die because they're not made of tonnes of metal.

IF you haven't noticed, the less amount of times your robot hits someone, the more damage it does (TGH).

Example:

-Red Squealer AM + k-sword = 40 -> 70 damage.
-Hound Dog AM + k-sword = 30 ish - > 50 ish damage.


Also, fencer has around 14 tgh if I'm correct, while axer has 20tgh and a useable standard unbuffed combo, and he can attack in air unbuffed. Not to mention axer hits less so TGH hardly rapes his combo damage, while fencer goes for 80 -> 30 -> 20 etc (not fact but estimated)

Axer goes for around 90 - 70 -> 50 - 40 -> 40 - 30

Red-Brief J wrote:

IF you haven't noticed, the less amount of times your robot hits someone, the more damage it does (TGH).

Example:

-Red Squealer AM + k-sword = 40 -> 70 damage.
-Hound Dog AM + k-sword = 30 ish - > 50 ish damage.


Also, fencer has around 14 tgh if I'm correct, while axer has 20tgh and a useable standard unbuffed combo, and he can attack in air unbuffed. Not to mention axer hits less so TGH hardly rapes his combo damage, while fencer goes for 80 -> 30 -> 20 etc (not fact but estimated)

Axer goes for around 90 - 70 -> 50 - 40 -> 40 - 30

Fencer goes from 170-110-50-30-40

Also,I prefer Vanguard Fencer.

why?

Because I have no rt to spend on Axer.

Nisa wrote:

Red-Brief J wrote:

IF you haven't noticed, the less amount of times your robot hits someone, the more damage it does (TGH).

Example:

-Red Squealer AM + k-sword = 40 -> 70 damage.
-Hound Dog AM + k-sword = 30 ish - > 50 ish damage.


Also, fencer has around 14 tgh if I'm correct, while axer has 20tgh and a useable standard unbuffed combo, and he can attack in air unbuffed. Not to mention axer hits less so TGH hardly rapes his combo damage, while fencer goes for 80 -> 30 -> 20 etc (not fact but estimated)

Axer goes for around 90 - 70 -> 50 - 40 -> 40 - 30

Fencer goes from 170-110-50-30-40

Also,I prefer Vanguard Fencer.

why?

Because I have no rt to spend on Axer.

I doubt he does that much, then bots will die in 1 combo, negative.

Red-Brief J wrote:

Nisa wrote:

Red-Brief J wrote:

IF you haven't noticed, the less amount of times your robot hits someone, the more damage it does (TGH).

Example:

-Red Squealer AM + k-sword = 40 -> 70 damage.
-Hound Dog AM + k-sword = 30 ish - > 50 ish damage.


Also, fencer has around 14 tgh if I'm correct, while axer has 20tgh and a useable standard unbuffed combo, and he can attack in air unbuffed. Not to mention axer hits less so TGH hardly rapes his combo damage, while fencer goes for 80 -> 30 -> 20 etc (not fact but estimated)

Axer goes for around 90 - 70 -> 50 - 40 -> 40 - 30

Fencer goes from 170-110-50-30-40

Also,I prefer Vanguard Fencer.

why?

Because I have no rt to spend on Axer.

I doubt he does that much, then bots will die in 1 combo, negative.

That's my fencer.

it's different from others.

I deal 170 per slash to arts (from behind)

I would think u guys at this point in time would know tgh only effects second hit it doesent continue>_<

hound dog k sword byne dmg o mine 50 30 30 30 boom last hit 70-100

boytitan2 wrote:

I would think u guys at this point in time would know tgh only effects second hit it doesent continue>_<

hound dog k sword byne dmg o mine 50 30 30 30 boom last hit 70-100

Stupidest thing I've read all day.

Red-Brief J wrote:

boytitan2 wrote:

I would think u guys at this point in time would know tgh only effects second hit it doesent continue>_<

hound dog k sword byne dmg o mine 50 30 30 30 boom last hit 70-100

Stupidest thing I've read all day.

I laff I luze

boytitan2 wrote:

I would think u guys at this point in time would know tgh only effects second hit it doesent continue>_<

hound dog k sword byne dmg o mine 50 30 30 30 boom last hit 70-100

This is how you know he's never actually attacked a PS during epoch.

Suguri wrote:

boytitan2 wrote:

I would think u guys at this point in time would know tgh only effects second hit it doesent continue>_<

hound dog k sword byne dmg o mine 50 30 30 30 boom last hit 70-100

This is how you know he's never actually attacked a PS during epoch.

I go epoch defense but from my experience tgh mostly effects second hit no the 3rd hit and so on

boytitan2 wrote:

Suguri wrote:

boytitan2 wrote:

I would think u guys at this point in time would know tgh only effects second hit it doesent continue>_<

hound dog k sword byne dmg o mine 50 30 30 30 boom last hit 70-100

This is how you know he's never actually attacked a PS during epoch.

I go epoch defense but from my experience tgh mostly effects second hit no the 3rd hit and so on

*Facepalm* Yeah, of course it MOSTLY effects the 2nd hit. It also continues after that, just not as much.
Put a Rage Machinegun or Drum Gun on one of your bots and go in the training arena and test it out. You'll amaze yourself Titty Boy!

Astral_Goddess wrote:

boytitan2 wrote:

Suguri wrote:

This is how you know he's never actually attacked a PS during epoch.

I go epoch defense but from my experience tgh mostly effects second hit no the 3rd hit and so on

*Facepalm* Yeah, of course it MOSTLY effects the 2nd hit. It also continues after that, just not as much.
Put a Rage Machinegun or Drum Gun on one of your bots and go in the training arena and test it out. You'll amaze yourself Titty Boy!

oh hi there astral god ^__^

LazerRazer wrote:

Nisa wrote:

It's the other way round cap'tain.

sword hits harder.

Axe hits further.

I think Fistie was talking through realistic perspective of our own world.

You chop down trees with an axe, not a sword.
You hack through shields and armors with an axe, not a sword (you pierce with a thrust).

Bigger punch in an axe, but usually shorter to keep the weapon balanced and not weighting too much on the tip.

I don't think CS is good enough to actually calculate you dealing more damage with the halberd blade as compared to the shaft with no blade.

Shaft with no blade is always gonna be weaker than a sword when swung by the same person.