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+8Raven Intet Suguri Hyoka RoflWaffle Hagane unazim haures 12 posters |
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haures Newbie
Posts : 89 Join date : 2010-12-31 Age : 34 Location : Philippines
| Subject: [DISCUSS] Seiron Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:37 pm | |
| I just got him from Lop gara. And I think he has a good stats with a balanced Tec and Str suited for his aura WB.
Str 16 ---aura mode--> 13 Tec 18 ---aura mode--> 24 Wlk 6 ---aura mode--> 6 Fly 15 ---aura mode--> 19 Tgh 7 ---aura mode--> 9 (all of those are stock parts and ams don't have aura change)
It's Lightning Gun (aura mode) shot 3 bullet at fast interval. got 290 range (which I think is decent for airs) but only 21 force. What I'm interested the most is its kick its 3 consecutive upward kick with the first two has a single wave (like in slash blade) and the third one with three.
I would like to discuss this bot if this is worth leveling and what build could be the best for him in the fact that his arms are not aura bonded so it's worth replacing.
edit: Aura mode stats fixed
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unazim Newcomer
Posts : 15 Join date : 2011-01-05
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:15 am | |
| I was wondering what kind cartridge do use. | |
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Hagane Newbie
Posts : 83 Join date : 2011-01-27
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:16 pm | |
| The stats you said the aura mode gives is wrong, the Tec is 24, Fly is 19, and Tgh is 9. Anyway, he's a decent bot but dont bother using his kicks, they are too weak. His lightning gun is good and it has good splash damage making it useful in any situation except for air vs air combat. Even though it only has 21 force, it hits 40-70 most of the time. I can't tell you what the best build is cause i haven't completely leveled mine yet, but get Wonder Rate Up since its necessary for you to go into Aura mode as quickly as possible. For his arms, just throw on some garula arms and your good. | |
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RoflWaffle Regular Poster
Posts : 194 Join date : 2011-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Niger
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:30 am | |
| I have to agree with Hagane on Seiron's kicks. They're just too weak and personally I find they're difficult to combo with because of poor homing, but that might just be my inability to melee. What you should look at is Seiron's HD. It's a 21-Force Lightning Gun with 120 Ammo which refills completely every time you enter Aura mode (meaning you can sacrifice Ammo on tune-ups with no incredible drawback). Another interesting fact is that the Aura WB's gauge will slowly increase over time. I have the Wonder Rate Up cartridge on mine, but I haven't noticed too much of a benefit from it. It may just be my playstyle though. | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:33 am | |
| Genbu's look is better.
If only Genbu wasn't a crappy art. | |
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haures Newbie
Posts : 89 Join date : 2010-12-31 Age : 34 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:16 am | |
| - RoflWaffle wrote:
- I have to agree with Hagane on Seiron's kicks. They're just too weak and personally I find they're difficult to combo with because of poor homing, but that might just be my inability to melee. What you should look at is Seiron's HD. It's a 21-Force Lightning Gun with 120 Ammo which refills completely every time you enter Aura mode (meaning you can sacrifice Ammo on tune-ups with no incredible drawback). Another interesting fact is that the Aura WB's gauge will slowly increase over time. I have the Wonder Rate Up cartridge on mine, but I haven't noticed too much of a benefit from it. It may just be my playstyle though.
I was able to notice this one too.. or is it just because your teammates are engaged onto enemies? need to confirm though I really like his lightning gun specially when under effect of the ps. planning on getting him a wonder rate up.. but what arms should I fit him? | |
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RoflWaffle Regular Poster
Posts : 194 Join date : 2011-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Niger
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:54 pm | |
| I just tested out some Wonder Bits. Aura and Repair Bits have a natural slow increase. I don't think any other WBs have it. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:59 pm | |
| - RoflWaffle wrote:
- I just tested out some Wonder Bits. Aura and Repair Bits have a natural slow increase. I don't think any other WBs have it.
Long Range and Burst Fire do for sure, too. | |
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Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:09 pm | |
| I would love one to test, however I'm not gonna spin that mess of a gara (too much trash). From what I've seen:
-Lighting gun hurts
-kinda on the slow side given the size of the hit-box.
The thing I don't like about them is how dependent they are on aura mode, when it's up, its good times, but out side of that you got a rather average, or even sub par bot with stock parts. | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:18 pm | |
| - RoflWaffle wrote:
- I just tested out some Wonder Bits. Aura and Repair Bits have a natural slow increase. I don't think any other WBs have it.
Sometimes when I'm just running around with a slayer bit or something it magically becomes fully charged (granted, it's REALLY close to full already). So I think all WB's have a natural increase, Support/AURA bits have more, and growing wonder has the most. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:52 pm | |
| - Raven wrote:
- RoflWaffle wrote:
- I just tested out some Wonder Bits. Aura and Repair Bits have a natural slow increase. I don't think any other WBs have it.
Sometimes when I'm just running around with a slayer bit or something it magically becomes fully charged (granted, it's REALLY close to full already).
So I think all WB's have a natural increase, Support/AURA bits have more, and growing wonder has the most. You sure you didn't hit a tree with a stray bullet or something? | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:21 pm | |
| Yeah, must have been a stray bullet without firing Sarcasm aside, yes, I'm sure since I'd be the one pressing a mouse button to hit the tree. | |
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RoflWaffle Regular Poster
Posts : 194 Join date : 2011-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Niger
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:24 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- RoflWaffle wrote:
- I just tested out some Wonder Bits. Aura and Repair Bits have a natural slow increase. I don't think any other WBs have it.
Long Range and Burst Fire do for sure, too. I actually tested both of those with A. Maid before, but they lack the slow increase. If Raven is right about the minuscule increase on every WB, then I guess Aura and Repair have the fastest charge rate while everything else (including Long Range and Burst Fire) falls in the too-slow-to-notice category. (I believe there isn't a charge for all of those though.) By the way, what's the rate of Repair and non-Repair WBs with Growing Wonder? I don't have Medi Aide or High Priestol Q to test it with. :s | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:55 pm | |
| - RoflWaffle wrote:
- Suguri wrote:
- RoflWaffle wrote:
- I just tested out some Wonder Bits. Aura and Repair Bits have a natural slow increase. I don't think any other WBs have it.
Long Range and Burst Fire do for sure, too. I actually tested both of those with A. Maid before, but they lack the slow increase. If Raven is right about the minuscule increase on every WB, then I guess Aura and Repair have the fastest charge rate while everything else (including Long Range and Burst Fire) falls in the too-slow-to-notice category. (I believe there isn't a charge for all of those though.)
By the way, what's the rate of Repair and non-Repair WBs with Growing Wonder? I don't have Medi Aide or High Priestol Q to test it with. :s You didn't confuse burst fire and long range with their mini variants in the shop, did you? Because both mini and regular were just referred to as "burst fire bit" and "long range bit" for awhile. I play C.S. and Medi Aide quite a bit, I know for a fact Burst Fire charges on its own. | |
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RoflWaffle Regular Poster
Posts : 194 Join date : 2011-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Niger
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:06 am | |
| I believe that I used the "full" versions since the mini versions were right underneath them in my selection screen. ._. | |
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unazim Newcomer
Posts : 15 Join date : 2011-01-05
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:21 am | |
| So I pulled out a Suzeku and mixed it with my Seiron. I kept serion hd, bd, and am, added Suzeku wings and legs. 4capa and wonder rate up Current stats with out weps
str17 tec19 wlk6 fly15 tgh5
Any suggestions or opinions? | |
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Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:28 pm | |
| Get more tgh, or else you'll get stunned at the drop of a hat, more fly of course, but with 5 tgh all sorts of things will give you trouble should they hit you (and your not a beezle). | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:26 am | |
| - Intet wrote:
- Get more tgh, or else you'll get stunned at the drop of a hat, more fly of course, but with 5 tgh all sorts of things will give you trouble should they hit you (and your not a beezle).
Listen to intet | |
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unazim Newcomer
Posts : 15 Join date : 2011-01-05
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:11 pm | |
| Okay with the new aura bot Blitzelt. Ima admit i like to mix these aura air units.
So i got two of Seiron and Suzeku. Mixed the first one and still have two left over. And i manage to roll a Blitzelt
Without reading its parts i was so eager to test it out. When i finally got the aura gauge up and running I thought it would have some type of offensive attack Wondering for a long time in aura mode what so special besides the glow and sparkles I notice i was flying for a long period of time in aura mode
So my question is what should i mix now? (Seiron)(Blitzelt)=? (Suzeku)(Blizelt)=? (Seiron)(Suzeku)+(Blizelt)=?
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Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:23 pm | |
| Serion and blitzelt is the obvious choice, since you'll be flying around for a long period of time spitting lighting on people, and it's the least cost intensive option. | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 33 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:06 am | |
| Revive from the past, just don want to make new thread.
- What should i tune the HD? - Stat when AURA: 28tec and 34fly, good enuff? - Another question for Suzeku BS, should i tune it, and main or sub wp? | |
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NotZetsubou Adept Poster
Posts : 550 Join date : 2011-03-04 Age : 101 Location : Eientei Inn, room #12
| Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Seiron Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:48 pm | |
| might help if you really don't know where to start. - Spoiler:
old one >.< my current shiron use laz lg and power shooter instead of abr other parts are pretty much the same. (36 fly 25tec with out aura and around 1080 cost) might junk him and change his cart again...Orz for my hd thinking about try range tune on my 2nd shiron hd... 3tgh is enough for my shiron to survive till match end (except seraph with wing or ag focus on killing me. ( T дT) )
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