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shinigami Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 28 Location : The horrible 3-dimensional world
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:14 am | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- well when I want good tune up parts like slot protector and all that in a packege I on purposely do 1x higher chance of tread meal
EVE gara is your choice,then u should pray for carcrash and leave the superflies for us. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:33 am | |
| - shinigami wrote:
- boytitan2 wrote:
- well when I want good tune up parts like slot protector and all that in a packege I on purposely do 1x higher chance of tread meal
EVE gara is your choice,then u should pray for carcrash and leave the superflies for us. lol thats exactly were I went one sidenote on my one five x jikun long is in a gold ball wtf how da hell is a mech u get just for playing the game in the garapon thats a epic slap in the face -__- | |
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shinigami Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 28 Location : The horrible 3-dimensional world
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:44 am | |
| Okay I just rolled two single rolls on EVE gara and both are superflies.
And I got 2 silver
The cheerleader bot and ZSC
WTF I want an air bot.... | |
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Kitouski Ace Poster
Posts : 1054 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : US
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:49 am | |
| It's funny, out of all the money I've spent on garapon (50~70 dollars) I've always gotten Superfly except for a single car crash which was when I made a single roll. In fact, only two of my rolls have been x5... usually only after one or two things and my luck has been good enough for me to get everything I'm aiming for within 3~5 rolls anyways... so far at least.
PROUD TO SAY I HAVE YET TO EVER GET A BLUE BALL!! *shakes fist* They'll all hit me at once, I just know it. My luck can't drag on forever. ._. | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:03 pm | |
| You guys are totally using a totally useless theory to prove otherwise that you were not garatrolled, when the simple fact presents itself.
5x rolls lets you save RT at the expense of DIVIDING YOUR PERCENTAGE OF GETTING GOOD BALLS BY 5. Point being, if your default percentage of getting an EVE from EVE gara is 25%, that percentage gets divided by 5, which means you have 5% chance of getting an EVE if you do a 5x roll.
Meanwhile, 1x rolls are uncompromised, though you wouldn't be able to save any RT in the process.
As for UC gara, there's an underlying factor on that. Since the number of blue ball prizes are like, A FUCKTON, the default percentage of getting anything of worth is like, reduced to 5% for 1x rolls.
Divide that by 5 for 5x and then rage. | |
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monkeytheifx Newbie
Posts : 98 Join date : 2011-01-23
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:14 pm | |
| wut happens if yu go 5x rolls and the animation appears, and lets say its a carcrash and you're like oh F**** and press alt+F4?
Will you lose the Rt? Will you get any prizes? | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:16 pm | |
| You lose the RT You get the prize but don't know what you get | |
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monkeytheifx Newbie
Posts : 98 Join date : 2011-01-23
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:48 pm | |
| - Shance wrote:
- You guys are totally using a totally useless theory to prove otherwise that you were not garatrolled, when the simple fact presents itself.
5x rolls lets you save RT at the expense of DIVIDING YOUR PERCENTAGE OF GETTING GOOD BALLS BY 5. Point being, if your default percentage of getting an EVE from EVE gara is 25%, that percentage gets divided by 5, which means you have 5% chance of getting an EVE if you do a 5x roll.
Meanwhile, 1x rolls are uncompromised, though you wouldn't be able to save any RT in the process.
As for UC gara, there's an underlying factor on that. Since the number of blue ball prizes are like, A FUCKTON, the default percentage of getting anything of worth is like, reduced to 5% for 1x rolls.
Divide that by 5 for 5x and then rage. Have you proven that? | |
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Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:30 pm | |
| Frankly all this seems like the human mind making a pattern out of something that may as well not be there at all.
At the simplest, garapon could work in the following; the machine decides the rarity of the balls you receive, and then randomly determines the content of them. This method is supported by doing rolls on the UC gara. With its large amount of blue balls, its hard to see anything other than tuning materials. If you assume that everything in the garapon has an equal chance of being picked, then using that method you have a 5% chance of getting eve in eve garapon (chance of a gold (7/20) times the chance its eve (1/7). That's the simplest case, it could be lower/higher due to weighting (having different rarities have higher/lower probabilities inherently).
Getting dc'ed durring gara proves that what you get is determined when you actually start the roll, not when the balls are opened. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:22 pm | |
| I'm willing to bet money that you have an equal chance of rolling each ball with the exception of the loading screen limiter. The limiter's been proven, and the results match up if you set up a random number generator to do the same thing.
Speaking of, I did the latter and decided today to have it roll 25 Fraus with x1 rolls, counting the RT spent each time, then had it do the same thing with x5 rolls. x1 averaged 1689 RT, x5 averaged 1834 (I remember someone saying EVE averaged $400 in CBJP, EVE gara has more bots than gara 1, so it's most likely accurate). Too lazy to do actual math (that, and my calc teacher sucked at teaching probability) to determine which is truly better, but the results suggest x1 slightly saves RT in the long run if rolling for gold bots. I'd say if spending a small amount to go for x1 rolls; if you only have 120 RT, you've only got one shot at a superfly loading screen, whereas with x1 rolls you have four. | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:57 am | |
| - monkeytheifx wrote:
- Shance wrote:
- You guys are totally using a totally useless theory to prove otherwise that you were not garatrolled, when the simple fact presents itself.
5x rolls lets you save RT at the expense of DIVIDING YOUR PERCENTAGE OF GETTING GOOD BALLS BY 5. Point being, if your default percentage of getting an EVE from EVE gara is 25%, that percentage gets divided by 5, which means you have 5% chance of getting an EVE if you do a 5x roll.
Meanwhile, 1x rolls are uncompromised, though you wouldn't be able to save any RT in the process.
As for UC gara, there's an underlying factor on that. Since the number of blue ball prizes are like, A FUCKTON, the default percentage of getting anything of worth is like, reduced to 5% for 1x rolls.
Divide that by 5 for 5x and then rage. Have you proven that? I get gold balls on car crashes. Problem? | |
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Kitouski Ace Poster
Posts : 1054 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : US
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:18 am | |
| - Shance wrote:
- monkeytheifx wrote:
- Shance wrote:
- You guys are totally using a totally useless theory to prove otherwise that you were not garatrolled, when the simple fact presents itself.
5x rolls lets you save RT at the expense of DIVIDING YOUR PERCENTAGE OF GETTING GOOD BALLS BY 5. Point being, if your default percentage of getting an EVE from EVE gara is 25%, that percentage gets divided by 5, which means you have 5% chance of getting an EVE if you do a 5x roll.
Meanwhile, 1x rolls are uncompromised, though you wouldn't be able to save any RT in the process.
As for UC gara, there's an underlying factor on that. Since the number of blue ball prizes are like, A FUCKTON, the default percentage of getting anything of worth is like, reduced to 5% for 1x rolls.
Divide that by 5 for 5x and then rage. Have you proven that? I get gold balls on car crashes.
Problem? I think he meant evidence beyond your word of mouth, considering all your statement did was make me trust you less. | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:50 am | |
| Dude, roll it, get a car crash, and if even once you get a gold ball, what I said is true, and all this mumbo-jumbo talk about loading stuff, percentages and whatnot will be dumped out of the window save for what I have stated so far.
Do it. I dare you. | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:01 am | |
| - Shance wrote:
- Dude, roll it, get a car crash, and if even once you get a gold ball, what I said is true, and all this mumbo-jumbo talk about loading stuff, percentages and whatnot will be dumped out of the window save for what I have stated so far.
Do it. I dare you. Got a gold ball on my 1st rolls set of 5 and got derpwalk animation gold gold gold gold derp tuneups | |
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Segawa Adept Poster
Posts : 699 Join date : 2010-07-03 Location : Nagasarete Airantou --> Hakuou Gakuen
| Subject: Re: In theory, 1 roll > 5 rolls?. Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:22 am | |
| ^ you @)$&@#(%^@$ above me with great luck. seriously >_> even Dr4gon. Frau on first x5 roll EVE on first x5 roll then the 3 "new" rare releases on his first x5 roll CURSE YOUR LUCK MAN T_T GIMME SOME. Even when i get gold in UC garapon its. cactus head cactus head cactus head cactus head cactus head cactus head cactus head cactus head cactus head cactus head OMG SNOW VULTURE BS OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG can i have the ro lucky cube nao? if this was for the 1 rt it would seriously sux. My luck is horrible compared to a lot of you . Im suspecting Birth using CRANE ARM on me >_>. all my UCmedals T_T | |
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