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you've never seen someone make something specifically to be used with dylan arkam. When you don't need to tune mobility on something, you can have ridiculous weapon tunes and stats. You can make extremely high damage LND alphas. Dylan was perfectly usable, you're just a little bitch.

Yes yes you can tune specifically for it and get more stats, w/e.  Either one dying reduces the effectiveness of the other a ton and it's easier for the person you are shooting at to avoid damage coming from one direction (like if you are in the rider thing) than two directions (if you were playing two normal bots). Dierycamym isn't the most awful robot in the game but it's just a subpar alpha air with a stupid gimmick.

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She didn't lose to high DPS airs before.
She was never low mobility.
She was perfectly usable on release and they've buffed her twice when she was always fine. She was broken, she wasn't annoying to play against. If you died horridly to her as an air, it was your fault for disrespecting her.

She most definitely did lose to high dps airs before, it's super easy to dodge her missiles even with gggrapid and the cannon aoe thing has too long a cooldown to win in a dps race, before there was just no way she outdamaged a decent air even through the shield.

And how is she not low mobility? Her one good weapon has to be activated and deactivated and makes her an easy target with a big IM SLOWED LEL sign on top of it. She still isn't broken or annoying to play against and if you get owned by her as an air it still means you are doing something wrong because her chase potential is zero so this buff shouldn’t change your perception of her.

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You're just another one of the people who think that if something isn't broken, it's useless.

Huh? Did I say that? I specifically said she wasn't reliable. In a match where it’s mostly airs she's probably pretty decent in spite of her bad weapons because 99% beam damage reduction is incredibly strong. But most matches aren't entirely airs and natascha is still pretty terrible vs anything that isn't airs due to low dps and poor ability to fight or run away from non-airs.

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Natascha gets something, but loses something, and she can switch back when not needed. Most people suck with her because they decide to stay in siege the whole time, even when they are not using her cannon or attacking the things they should.

Oh look, there's a melee running towards me. There's a melee hitting me. THIS SUCKS SHE'S SO SLOW.
How about, PRESSING THE FUCKING RIGHT BUTTON.

Except doing that still makes makes you immobile while you mode change and still lets enemies get closer to you lel.

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Her job as an art, is, and I think that it's pretty obvious, to kill airs, her siege mode unlocks a weapon that is only good against things that are weak to blast, usually, airs, her damage reduction is best against airs. How about, get some mobility, mobility carts and use that against things that you can't tank? It's not really that hard. Her missiles aren't related to the siege mode, so, why to be so immobile?
Not everything needs to be "hold button to deal damage", and not everything is that way.

Natascha is a campy robot with very little chase potential due to her poor weapons + setup + lesser mobility. You can add mobility carts and a mobility bs to anything, natascha is still strictly less mobile than any of them if she ever wants to use her shield/cannon. Campy robots have to be able to do tons of damage in order to make up for their lack of ability to chase, otherwise they just get ignored and healed off. Her damage just sucks vs non-airs and it makes it difficult to justify using such a campy robot in a game with such strong healing.

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"Lisel is one of those bots that is too good at doing it's job, and if you learn how to use her, she's actually rather broken since she can melt other types too, which goes beyond her type, though a certain cart can decrease the effectiveness of that

IMO lisel is actually the best designed art in the game. Her cannon is only 250 base range. Yes she can melt things that are rushing at her but there are definite tradeoffs to do so. She has to use at least one of her 10 non-refillable ammo and if she has any cannon shots currently loaded she also loses those, they only do mediocre damage because it hits for like 5 damage + the melt, which adds up to much less than if you were using the gravity shot vs one air and much much less if you are hitting multiple people, and the melt shots are even shorter range than her normal shots because they have grenade arc mechanics. Ignoring the cannon lisel is a subpar alpha artillery with bad inbuilt weapons, a decent back dash, and shitty capa. Lisel has very well defined strengths and weaknesses, much like natascha, but unlike natascha her weakness isn't so crippling as to only allow her to be situationally useful. When there aren't a ton of airs in a room lisel can still function as an alpha art, but she is worse at that than dedicated alpha arts which is the tradeoff for her increased anti-air abilities. In a room without a lot of airs natascha is just left scratching her head trying to find something to do.

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And you can see that when CS decided to clone her weapon and give it to Toybox girl (without the shell change function) and then balanced it in a way that it's not retarded, despite being a really strong weapon against airs. It got downsides that balances it. It can't spam 3 bullets that pull enemies towards it's AoE, it doesn't fire with just a click, it has to charge before firing and it has a considerable cooldown after firing it. Then there's other things that makes it so the cannon doesn't get too good, like her capa not allowing her to equip a million weapons (and unlike Lisel, she has no locked weapons), her capa is limited enough for you to equip a single good weapon but still skimp on certain WP tunes so you can get high stats which in turn makes it so that unless you don't get certain tunes or go with a really cheap weapon you won't really had the capa to put weapon tunes on her cannon. That's a lot of things that bots like Lisel doesn't have to deal.
That Toybox Girl variant isn't bad at all, but in a game where so many broken things run around, a bot as balanced as she actually is, does feel rather underwhelming. Though it is to note that TBG EG has a rather low cost when compared to units like Lisel

You are confusing strength with design. They would both shit on beam gun beezles, does that mean they are both broken? Broken is entirely relative to what you are comparing it against. Lisel has a subset of robots she is balanced against and there is also a subset of robots that toybox girl EG is balanced balanced against. Why do you get to decide which is the “proper” subset?  If you look at the whole set of things available for play, toybox girl EG is super underwhelming and lisel has a viable niche.