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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Darkness Hide Eris Build Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:16 am | |
| - Eris:
[Robot Name] Eris
[Parts] BD: Eris BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Eris LG [Clearance] [EX High Run Beta] [EX High Run Beta] HD: Eris HD [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] HDAC: Green Cute Beret [High Run Beta] FCAC: Bancho Cape [High Run Beta] BS: Eris BS [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Run Beta] [EX High Run Beta] AM: Eris AM [Great Grappler Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] WP: Rulegnis WP: Cheer Pom-pon [Run] [Run] [Run] AM: Eris AM2 [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] WP: Fernognis [High Gladiator] [EX Melt] [EX Melt] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [Run] [Run] [Run]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: LND SIZE: S COST: 1425 CAPA: 1430 HP: 595 STR: 40 TEC: -10 WLK: 39 FLY: 2 TGH: 14
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×5 Sword Guard Blast Guard Stun Regain Boost Run Zero Cartridge×3 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 1 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 2 - EX-Blade Inferno
[Sword Drive Cartridges] HP Up 30 Reinforce S Meditation Armor Breaker Revenge Sword
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×56 Fudara Cosmos×35 Midoro Cosmos×10 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Threede Cosmos×1 Fourda Cosmos×3 Blue Chip×110 Yellow Chip×20 Green Chip×60 Rainbow Chip×51 Power Amp×65 Engine Shaft×60 Strike Metal×9 Scope Lens×17 Rapid Crystal×73 Shock Graphite×47 Snail Liquid×33 Prism Glass×23 Hulk Meteorite×50 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20 Generic Element×186 Superior Element×39 Power Element×90 Run Element×40 Boost Element×40
Any suggestions on improving this build such as: - Replacing one EX Melt with High Gladiator - Drop Clearance on Eris LG and Great Grappler Alpha on Eris AM (EX Blade) Just to make it clear, I'm aiming for EX Tunes (except for accessories) and using Sword Drive Cartridges. | |
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lReisenl Regular Poster
Posts : 130 Join date : 2011-10-29 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:37 am | |
| You're only allowed 10 EX tunes per bot. | |
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:42 am | |
| Wait, I didn't heard about that!
On the other hand, should I add more Clearance and drop Stun Regain according to Winry's thread? | |
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Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:00 pm | |
| You don't need 39 wlk, with 2 fly you can drop your wlk to 37 since you don't have Assault Step... | |
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:15 pm | |
| Reworked a bit by limiting the EX Tunes to 10, while replacing Blast Guard with Increase Capacity cartridge. - DH Eris V2:
[Robot Name] Eris
[Parts] BD: Eris BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Eris LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [Tank] HD: Eris HD [EX High Run Beta] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] HDAC: Green Cute Beret [High Run Beta] FCAC: Bancho Cape [High Run Beta] BS: Eris BS [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] AM: Eris AM [Great Grappler Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] WP: Rulegnis WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] AM: Eris AM2 [Great Grappler Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] WP: Fernognis [High Gladiator] [EX Melt] [EX Melt] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: LND (ZERO) SIZE: S COST: 1495 CAPA: 1500 HP: 605 STR: 40 TEC: -13 WLK: 40 FLY: 1 TGH: 14
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Sword Guard Stun Regain Boost Run Zero Cartridge×3 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 1 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 2 - EX-Blade Inferno
[Sword Drive Cartridges] HP Up 30 Reinforce S Meditation Armor Breaker Revenge Sword
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×18 Midoro Cosmos×1 Threede Cosmos×2 Fourda Cosmos×3 Blue Chip×145 Yellow Chip×40 Green Chip×75 Rainbow Chip×61 Power Amp×73 Engine Shaft×66 Strike Metal×18 Scope Lens×17 Rapid Crystal×123 Shock Graphite×55 Snail Liquid×57 Prism Glass×23 Hulk Meteorite×100 Screw Bolts×20 Steel Wheel×12 Handa Cosmos×2 Generic Element×150 Superior Element×30 Power Element×90 Run Element×10 Boost Element×40
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:08 pm | |
| 1. remove handheld and tune arm. breakpoint for boost run here is 38/1 so you can actually drop some walk, opening up more capa. 2. both assault step and blast guard will be more useful than stun regain here IMO. 3. i don't feel eris really needs hglad but it's whatever.
4. The best cart in sword drive in reinforce sword, because %based carts are all really bad. The problem is that the best use of reinforce sword is to patch up bad melees that have a lot of hits but bad damage and/or stunlock. Eris is neither of those. For boost run melees, boost drive is probably the best selection, because you still get meditation and aerial fighter, but you also get the very important propellant armor cart which reduces the amount of boost lost from boost drain attacks and waste booster, which is extremely helpful. just something to think about. | |
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:20 am | |
| Tried a different approach by replacing Stun Regain with Blast Guard. Also, I changed the Sword Drive Carts with Armor Drive. - DH Eris V3:
[Robot Name] Eris
[Parts] BD: Eris BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Eris LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [Capacity] HD: Eris HD [EX Great Run Beta] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] HDAC: Green Cute Beret [High Run Beta] FCAC: Bancho Cape [High Run Beta] BS: Eris BS [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] AM: Eris AM [Life] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] WP: Rulegnis [Life] [Life] [Life] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Tank] AM: Eris AM2 [Life] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] WP: Fernognis [High Gladiator] [High Gladiator] [Great Life] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Tank]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: LND (ZERO) SIZE: S COST: 1550 CAPA: 1550 HP: 715 STR: 40 TEC: -11 WLK: 38 FLY: 1 TGH: 14
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Sword Guard Blast Guard Boost Run Zero Cartridge×3 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 1 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 2 - EX-Blade Inferno
[Armor Drive Cartridges] HP Up 30 Wonder Repair Ablative Plating Wonder Cancel Last Stand
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×50 Fudara Cosmos×40 Midoro Cosmos×16 Yoguru Cosmos×6 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×135 Green Chip×85 Rainbow Chip×52 Power Amp×265 Engine Shaft×85 Physical Stone×208 Scope Lens×34 Rapid Crystal×146 Drum Magazine×7 Shock Graphite×47 Snail Liquid×18 Prism Glass×46 Hulk Meteorite×100 Screw Bolts×260 Steel Wheel×34 Miracle Ammonite×42 Shining Feather×42 Handa Cosmos×1 Generic Element×125 Superior Element×32 Power Element×90 Run Element×15
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Wah~Sugoi Adept Poster
Posts : 576 Join date : 2013-05-24 Age : 34 Location : Lost into oblivion
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:45 am | |
| IMO if you change some Ex HPB to EX HR then you can save some more slot and avoid using great life which is not cost efficient. (1 Ex HR consumes 15 cost like Tank tune, gives you 15HP + 2Wlk) If you go like this your Eris will be less fat, only 10HP less but you have Assault Step - 1420:
http://cosmiccalc.appspot.com/?ERIS%20%26BDfLS54cLGbjjSC7cHDbEdEdEP5cHDk233@ER5cFCk03@ecBSbddP5cAMheghR5i6cAMbR5adP5gbPdPdL3i6%233*5a9a10a20a34a35*3|%2C|%3A-@|%7C|P5a|ER3|%3A|cWP|beaea|gfSL1|RV6a|ACf1
If you wanna go fat, you can go like this - 1500:
http://cosmiccalc.appspot.com/?ERIS%20%26BDgLS54cLGbllSC7cHDbEdEdEP5cHDmER5cFCmecBSbddP5cAMjehjR5k@faL3cAMbR5adP5hbPdPdL3k@f%233*6a9a10a20a35*3|%2C|%3A-@|%7C|P5a|ER3|L3aL3|%3A|cWP|ACg20|beaea|hgSO1|RV6a|i00@
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:59 am | |
| I was thinking of having 700+ HP on Eris, but I want to keep both Clearances and High Gladiators as well as having 40 STR and 38 WLK. While I came up with 715 HP, it's impossible to increase it unless I tune High Capacity. EDIT: Here it is with Hi Capa. - DH Eris V3.5:
[Robot Name] Eris
[Parts] BD: Eris BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Eris LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [High Capacity] HD: Eris HD [EX Great Run Beta] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] HDAC: Green Cute Beret [High Run Beta] FCAC: Bancho Cape [High Run Beta] BS: Eris BS [EX High Power] [EX High Power] [EX High Power] AM: Eris AM [Life] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] WP: Rulegnis [Life] [Life] [Life] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Tank] AM: Eris AM2 [Life] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] WP: Fernognis [High Gladiator] [High Gladiator] [Great Life] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Tank]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: LND (ZERO) SIZE: S COST: 1580 CAPA: 1580 HP: 730 STR: 40 TEC: -8 WLK: 38 FLY: 1 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Sword Guard Blast Guard Boost Run Zero Cartridge×3 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 1 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 2 - EX-Blade Inferno
[Armor Drive Cartridges] HP Up 30 Wonder Repair Ablative Plating Wonder Cancel Last Stand
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×50 Fudara Cosmos×40 Midoro Cosmos×23 Yoguru Cosmos×11 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×105 Green Chip×85 Rainbow Chip×62 Power Amp×477 Engine Shaft×485 Physical Stone×46 Scope Lens×34 Rapid Crystal×146 Drum Magazine×7 Shock Graphite×59 Snail Liquid×18 Prism Glass×246 Hulk Meteorite×100 Screw Bolts×65 Steel Wheel×134 Miracle Ammonite×62 Shining Feather×62 Handa Cosmos×1 Generic Element×113 Superior Element×29 Power Element×105 Run Element×15
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Yokura Ace Poster
Posts : 1237 Join date : 2010-12-31
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:23 am | |
| What's the point of doing High powers when you have negative tec? | |
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:40 am | |
| But Eris doesn't have any AURA Powers nor TEC-based attacks to have it at 1. I'm aiming for Eris to dish out more damage quickly as possible and survive. | |
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Arti Ace Poster
Posts : 1204 Join date : 2011-05-20 Age : 29 Location : New York City
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:52 am | |
| The point is you're doing regular high power (not alpha or beta) when you have negative tec already | |
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Fuwakomoriya Police Is Watching You
Posts : 991 Join date : 2014-06-08
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:01 am | |
| I have no idea what kind of play style you like to stick to but trust me you aren't going to win melee brawls with this kind of build.... | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:05 am | |
| - Fuwakomoriya wrote:
- I have no idea what kind of play style you like to stick to but trust me you aren't going to win melee brawls with this kind of build....
nigga it's dark hide the point is to make indos explode and then leave and then do it again not "win brawls." also HP70> last stand. | |
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Sakura1 Crab
Posts : 5579 Join date : 2013-06-25 Location : Bad Cake I hope u choke on watermelons
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:33 am | |
| Wouldn't at least one Great Grappler work on that Ex blade Shit? | |
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:29 am | |
| Say Winty, why is Last Stand is a terrible Cartridge? Any suggestions other than increasing the HP? | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:31 am | |
| - Bayonette wrote:
- Say Winty, why is Last Stand is a terrible Cartridge? Any suggestions other than increasing the HP?
It sounds cool but in reality the only units who really benefit from it are SUP types. If you die and get resurrected with 50 HP and that 2 second invincibility, and people are still shooting at you, you're probably gonna die again anyways. | |
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:36 am | |
| Okay, so should I replace Last Stand with HP Up 70? While I'm thinking of putting Stun Recovery, it's seems that it's useless when Eris has Wonder Cancel. | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:37 am | |
| - Bayonette wrote:
- Okay, then should I just replace Last Stand with HP Up 70 then. While I'm thinking of putting Stun Recovery, it's seems that it's useless when Eris has Wonder Cancel.
Not at all, in fact the two go hand-in-hand. Stun Recovery makes it so you almost don't have to tune CV on things (almost) and Wonder Cancel is for those times when you're actually being piledriven by 3+ people and need to getout. | |
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Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:39 am | |
| 70 hp up is a must if you are using armor drive! | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:37 pm | |
| - Astral_Dono wrote:
- It sounds cool but in reality the only units who really benefit from it are SUP types. If you die and get resurrected with 50 HP and that 2 second invincibility, and people are still shooting at you, you're probably gonna die again anyways.
it actually works really well for anything with an escape subweapon/booster since you can just jet accel/whatever away during the invuln. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 37 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:02 pm | |
| Just th other day I saw a Cloak Eris w/ Last Stand. She activatd it during rspawn. Very annoying ;-; | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:28 pm | |
| the hide animation should take nearly the whole duration of the invulnerability, just throw an AoE at her towards the end of the animation to stun her. | |
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Bayonette Regular Poster
Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:30 pm | |
| Looks like I've decided that I'll be aiming for Great Capacity. Also, I've changed the Armor Drive Cart from Last Stand to Stun Recovery. - DH Eris V4:
[Robot Name] Eris
[Parts] BD: Eris BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Eris LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [Great Capacity] HD: Eris HD [EX Great Run Beta] [EX High Power] [EX High Power] HDAC: Green Cute Beret [High Run Beta] FCAC: Bancho Cape [High Run Beta] BS: Eris BS [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] [EX High Power Alpha] AM: Eris AM [Great Grappler Alpha] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] WP: Rulegnis [Life] [Life] [Life] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Tank] AM: Eris AM2 [Great Life] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] WP: Fernognis [High Gladiator] [High Gladiator] [Grappler] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Tank]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: LND (ZERO) SIZE: S COST: 1610 CAPA: 1610 HP: 695 (725) STR: 40 TEC: -9 WLK: 38 FLY: 1 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Sword Guard Blast Guard Boost Run Zero Cartridge×3 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 1 - Darkness Hide Lvl. 2 - EX-Blade Inferno
[Armor Drive Cartridges] HP Up 30 Wonder Repair Ablative Plating Wonder Cancel Stun Recovery
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×100 Fudara Cosmos×58 Midoro Cosmos×63 Yoguru Cosmos×31 Ones Cosmos×1 Threede Cosmos×1 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×115 Yellow Chip×20 Green Chip×85 Rainbow Chip×82 Power Amp×673 Engine Shaft×685 Physical Stone×36 Strike Metal×13 Scope Lens×34 Rapid Crystal×746 Drum Magazine×7 Shock Graphite×55 Snail Liquid×33 Prism Glass×46 Hulk Meteorite×300 Screw Bolts×355 Steel Wheel×334 Miracle Ammonite×142 Shining Feather×142 Generic Element×117 Superior Element×30 Power Element×100 Run Element×15
Now the for Core Tunes, which one should I get? | |
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Wah~Sugoi Adept Poster
Posts : 576 Join date : 2013-05-24 Age : 34 Location : Lost into oblivion
| Subject: Re: Darkness Hide Eris Build Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:03 pm | |
| > 12tgh - Stun recovery It's not going to work. | |
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