| Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build | |
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+15Hellshake Yano Fuwakomoriya colfenor1337 That_Wiesel_Guy Phantomhive fggt Pork Chop Koiro mechaRev Zwiebel Force Rexir2 Sakura1 Arti Winty gemininoiser 19 posters |
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gemininoiser Newcomer
Posts : 5 Join date : 2013-04-18 Age : 27
| Subject: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:51 pm | |
| Sylvia Paladin - Sylvia Paladin:
[Parts] BD: Sylvia BD5 : Chivalry Aura(default) LG: Sylvia LG4 [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [EX Great Power Alpha] HD: Sylvia HD5 HDAC: Silver Headphones [High Power Beta] FCAC: Mini Dress Ivis [High Power Beta] BS: Sylvia BS3 [Power] [Power] [EX Great Power Alpha] AM: Sylvia AM7 [Power] [Power] [EX Great Power Alpha] WP: Chivalry Sword [Great Grappler Alpha] [Great Grappler Alpha] [Great Grappler Alpha] WP: Fireflower [EX High Run Beta] [EX High Run Beta] [EX High Power Beta] AM: Sylvia AM8 [Life] [Power] WP: Chivalry Aegis WP: Fireflower [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1365 CAPA: 1365 HP: 538 STR: 40 TEC: -10 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 22
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +80×6 Blast Guard Stun Regain Boost Run Broad Radar
Ex tunes are from the recent arena campaign, so I don't think I'll get more than 3 high, 3 great. Thoughts? Is it good? Could I improve it? | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:53 pm | |
| 1. do you really need CV 2. you can go faster 3. you're wasting slots by doing power + life instead of just tuning beast. 4. NEVER use handhelds until you have filled all the slots on the body parts. Handhelds are a waste of capacity and should only be used if you need extra slots. 5. you should REALLY get fast recovery on all melee that can get it. It's one of the best carts in the game. | |
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Arti Ace Poster
Posts : 1204 Join date : 2011-05-20 Age : 29 Location : New York City
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:05 pm | |
| Fast Recovery should definitely be a higher priority on a melee than Broad Radar Broad is a strong cart on melees, but it's not entirely necessary and its cost is always really high EDIT: Here's something I slapped together. I'm not sure how much better this build is but it's worth a shot - Code:
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[Robot Name] Sylvia
[Parts] BD: Sylvia BD5 : Chivalry Aura(default) LG: Sylvia LG4 [Beast] [High Run Beta] [Power] HD: Sylvia HD5 [Beast] [High Run Beta] [Power] HDAC: Yukkurisalotte [Beast] FCAC: Mini Ivis BS: Sylvia BS3 [High Power Alpha] [High Run Beta] [Power] AM: Sylvia AM7 [Beast] [High Run Beta] [Run] WP: Chivalry Sword [Great Grappler Alpha] [Great Grappler Alpha] [Great Grappler Alpha] WP: Cosmic Beer [Beast] [High Run Beta] [Power] AM: Sylvia AM8 [Beast] [High Run Beta] [Run] WP: Chivalry Aegis [High Power Alpha] [Power] [Power] WP: Cosmic Beer [Beast] [High Run Beta] [Power]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1360 CAPA: 1360 HP: 528 STR: 40 TEC: -6 WLK: 38 FLY: 1 TGH: 22
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +80×6 Blast Guard Fast Recovery Stun Regain Boost Run
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×9 Fudara Cosmos×9 Midoro Cosmos×7 Threede Cosmos×3 Blue Chip×55 Yellow Chip×60 Green Chip×35 Power Amp×200 Engine Shaft×45 Strike Metal×27 Shock Graphite×14 Snail Liquid×66 Screw Bolts×140 Steel Wheel×84
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Sakura1 Crab
Posts : 5579 Join date : 2013-06-25 Location : Bad Cake I hope u choke on watermelons
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:16 pm | |
| I rlly don't recommend 3x great grappler on her one should be enough considering her melee ( well4me ) feels a bit slow but that's ur choice we all love free food atm | |
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Arti Ace Poster
Posts : 1204 Join date : 2011-05-20 Age : 29 Location : New York City
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:18 pm | |
| I don't actually know what to tune on the sword, honestly. I can probably rework that build I posted to have different tunes, if people throw suggestions my way | |
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gemininoiser Newcomer
Posts : 5 Join date : 2013-04-18 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:17 pm | |
| Ok, thanks for the advice. | |
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Rexir2 Teddy Slide
Posts : 188 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 31 Location : New England
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:33 am | |
| - Arti wrote:
- I don't actually know what to tune on the sword, honestly. I can probably rework that build I posted to have different tunes, if people throw suggestions my way
From what I've seen in the Arena, a couple of slow tunes and a gladiator seem to be the most effective. If a grappler tune is desired, only use the vanilla tune to minimize speed loss. | |
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Rexir2 Teddy Slide
Posts : 188 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 31 Location : New England
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:26 am | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- People slow tune everything, it's not about effectiveness, they just slow tune everything.
They do that because it's effective and people like to use spammy melee moes. I plan on tuning my laz's am3 differently because it's not a herp-derp-right-click-harder weapon. Sylvia Pally shouldn't have any problems w/ it, though. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:09 am | |
| why would you ever tune slow when you can do damage instead | |
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Rexir2 Teddy Slide
Posts : 188 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 31 Location : New England
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:24 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- why would you ever tune slow when you can do damage instead
Easy. By slowing your target, they won't be able to run away from you, which leads to getting frags. Damage is definitely nice, but if the target gets knocked away w/ spin stun, if they aren't slowed, they'll have a chance to create some distance or even completely get away from you, which means you'll have to chase them down again. Green tier boost run is okay, but it might not be enough to effectively catch most people in todays meta. If you can't catch your target, you can't deal any melee damage to them. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:36 pm | |
| you could jut like, tune gladiator instead. Slow can be blocked by clearance. Glads also allow you to chase flying targets better =O | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:44 pm | |
| - Rexir2 wrote:
- Easy. By slowing your target, they won't be able to run away from you, which leads to getting frags. Damage is definitely nice, but if the target gets knocked away w/ spin stun, if they aren't slowed, they'll have a chance to create some distance or even completely get away from you, which means you'll have to chase them down again.
and if they DON'T get slowed, all this happens anyway, and you did less damage. | |
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Rexir2 Teddy Slide
Posts : 188 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 31 Location : New England
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:51 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- Rexir2 wrote:
- Easy. By slowing your target, they won't be able to run away from you, which leads to getting frags. Damage is definitely nice, but if the target gets knocked away w/ spin stun, if they aren't slowed, they'll have a chance to create some distance or even completely get away from you, which means you'll have to chase them down again.
and if they DON'T get slowed, all this happens anyway, and you did less damage. Meh, you have a point. Maybe 1 or 2 grapplers and/or gladiators would be best. Just checked youtube and found her melee not as spammy as i thought it was (i ran a sweets fork build some time ago. Even though it only hit 3 times per combo, the combos could be strung together with almost no delay. Sadly, sylvia pally doesnt do this). | |
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mechaRev Abbey Denied
Posts : 1298 Join date : 2011-08-17 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:51 pm | |
| - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- Slow can be blocked by clearance
I love slow and all types of debuffs that can easily cripple a bot but clearance is the least of your problems lmao any bot nowadays has some way to apply a debuff at a 100% rate which will override slow, so yeah, what may take you 15+ hits to proc will easily dissapear with some other debuff | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:33 pm | |
| one time someone disordered me to i just ran towards a perse who waste boostered me then I turned and killed the guy who disordered me GG armada, GG. | |
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Koiro God Poster
Posts : 5490 Join date : 2012-09-16 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the state of Country
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:34 pm | |
| >suggesting slow tunes >any year
When will you guys learn | |
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Pork Chop Regular Poster
Posts : 359 Join date : 2013-08-28 Location : Indo Archipelago
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:58 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- 1. do you really need CV
Can someone explain? Does sylvia pally have her own CV? And on the same note I really don't get her WB. | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:17 pm | |
| You need to activate wb when she is surrounded. And it only takes effect when your opponents are hit. Thus gives her S-aura for ~2s, sword gains additional combo while spin gains more aoe range or so. She can use shield to block bullet for S-aura too. | |
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Pork Chop Regular Poster
Posts : 359 Join date : 2013-08-28 Location : Indo Archipelago
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:20 pm | |
| - fggt wrote:
- You need to activate wb when she is surrounded. And it only takes effect when your opponents are hit. Thus gives her S-aura for ~2s, sword gains additional combo while spin gains more aoe range or so. She can use shield to block bullet for S-aura too.
Ok, thanks alot that was informative. I still don't get why winty seem to say that Sylvia pally needs no CV. Hmmm... | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:44 pm | |
| lmao scrubnauts lrn2build - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Sylvia Paladin
[Parts] BD: Sylvia BD5 : Chivalry Aura(default) LG: Sylvia LG4 [High Power Alpha] [Power] [Power] HD: Sylvia HD5 [High Power Beta] [Power] [Power] HDAC: Clan Coin Ribbon [Tank] FCAC: Rabbit Hood P [Beast] BS: Sylvia BS3 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] AM: Sylvia AM7 [Slow] [Slow] [Slow] WP: Chivalry Sword [Slow] [Slow] [Slow] WP: - AM: Sylvia AM8 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] WP: Chivalry Aegis [Beast] [Beast] [Power] WP: -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1360 CAPA: 1360 HP: 473 STR: 32 TEC: -5 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 22
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +80×6 Sword Guard Blast Guard Fast Recovery Stun Regain
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×5 Fudara Cosmos×8 Midoro Cosmos×4 Fourda Cosmos×6 Blue Chip×45 Green Chip×35 Rainbow Chip×114 Power Amp×102 Engine Shaft×51 Rapid Crystal×162 Shock Graphite×10 Snail Liquid×216 Screw Bolts×80 Steel Wheel×48
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:11 pm | |
| you don't have gcapa 2x cv wtf | |
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Pork Chop Regular Poster
Posts : 359 Join date : 2013-08-28 Location : Indo Archipelago
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:22 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- you don't have gcapa 2x cv wtf
I thought you say it doesn't need CV. Oh well. I am not a fan of Grap, Slow, or Glad. - Ex-tunes from Event only:
[Robot Name] Sylvia
[Parts] BD: Sylvia BD5 : Chivalry Aura(default) LG: Sylvia LG4 [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [Great Capacity] HD: Sylvia HD5 [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] [EX High Power Beta] HDAC: Knight Helm II FCAC: Berry Earrings [Tank] BS: Moulin BSJ [Tank] BS: Sylvia BS [EX Great Power Gamma] [EX Great Power Gamma] [EX Great Power Gamma] AM: Sylvia AM7 [Beast] [Beast] [Beast] WP: Chivalry Sword [Tank] [Tank] [Tank] WP: Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [Run] [Run] AM: Sylvia AM8 [Tank] [Tank] [Tank] WP: Chivalry Aegis [Tank] [Tank] [Tank] WP: -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1465 CAPA: 1465 HP: 748 STR: 40 TEC: -4 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 17
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +80×6 Sword Guard Blast Guard Fast Recovery Sway
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×102 Fudara Cosmos×44 Midoro Cosmos×77 Yoguru Cosmos×30 Blue Chip×40 Green Chip×40 Rainbow Chip×69 Power Amp×705 Engine Shaft×846 Physical Stone×100 Strike Metal×9 Rapid Crystal×600 Shock Graphite×18 Snail Liquid×3 Hard Plate×100 Hulk Meteorite×200 Screw Bolts×580 Steel Wheel×468 Miracle Ammonite×140 Shining Feather×140 Generic Element×72 Superior Element×18 Power Element×105
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:52 pm | |
| it's a joke, about how most gcapa builds are really bad. | |
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Phantomhive Adept Poster
Posts : 507 Join date : 2011-02-27 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:17 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- it's a joke, about how most gcapa builds are really bad.
is it a good idea to go 3x ggrap for pure damage when the 3combo slashes are aready that slow? | |
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That_Wiesel_Guy Legendary Poster
Posts : 4551 Join date : 2011-08-09 Age : 431
| Subject: Re: Tried to make a Sylvia Paladin Build Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:21 am | |
| - Diabolical wrote:
- lmao scrubnauts lrn2build
- Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Sylvia Paladin
[Parts] BD: Sylvia BD5 : Chivalry Aura(default) LG: Sylvia LG4 [High Power Alpha] [Power] [Power] HD: Sylvia HD5 [High Power Beta] [Power] [Power] HDAC: Clan Coin Ribbon [Tank] FCAC: Rabbit Hood P [Beast] BS: Sylvia BS3 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] AM: Sylvia AM7 [Slow] [Slow] [Slow] WP: Chivalry Sword [Slow] [Slow] [Slow] WP: - AM: Sylvia AM8 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] WP: Chivalry Aegis [Beast] [Beast] [Power] WP: -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1360 CAPA: 1360 HP: 473 STR: 32 TEC: -5 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 22
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +80×6 Sword Guard Blast Guard Fast Recovery Stun Regain
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×5 Fudara Cosmos×8 Midoro Cosmos×4 Fourda Cosmos×6 Blue Chip×45 Green Chip×35 Rainbow Chip×114 Power Amp×102 Engine Shaft×51 Rapid Crystal×162 Shock Graphite×10 Snail Liquid×216 Screw Bolts×80 Steel Wheel×48
>People will use this build | |
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