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PostSubject: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 12:13 am

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Brownie points for anyone that gets the reference. ( =w=)/

If Capacity is an issue, swapping the parts to the normal BD will free some of it up (in exchange for gun performance). All Parts are available in the shop.

Also, I forget, how much EHP does this thing even have?! @_@


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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 4:07 am

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BD: Cosmo Kaiser BD2

not enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:16 am

CK AC is still pretty damn good, don't listen to this halfwit.

1. You don't need quad k-shield, dual k-shield + hop is good enough, also may wish to consider saving up a bit and get the rt part shop 2s version
2. Dual slayer, because why not.
3. Double EIW, no point going half way.
4. Swap out the parts, I wouldn't recommend his default LG/BS. Try Thoarla LG/Accel BS.
5. I wouldn't personally stick a Heavy Jag HD on him, but hey, if you feel like adding a bit of a gimmick on him, feel free, otherwise if you feel like utilizing his full gat potential, stick to his default head.
6. You need some form of mobility cart, taking short boost + quick land is highly recommended.
7. If you rather be focusing on some mixed bag gimmick build, rather use CK1 core.

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not enough.

May wish to consider keeping your mouth shut, this nonsense is starting to get on my nerves. You not having the wits and competence to stay "meta" with ye olde stuff doesn't mean nobody else can.

You are a fucking disappointment.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:30 am

Holy crap quad k-shield there! Like what Rev said, dual is good enough Smile

Get slotted acc, it should help you well in tuning.

Also, rev does invincible frame of swift bs still works?
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:34 am

I don't use cart step BSs so I can't comment, never felt like they worth the cost/loss of stats.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:37 am

oh i see..well I used to slap it on H. chrotacs for extra jump when hopping. But anyway...would you recommend that cactus head with handgun for farming trees?
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:43 am

Not for CKAC, he has more than enough ammo. I don't really recommend it for any LND hoppers since they can't really afford to waste any stat efficiency on ability to farm, besides, there are Stun Supply now.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:47 am

Now seriously and from my experience:

Grab boost run and put a shitload of wlk (far more than 32) on it. Kaiser suffers vs a lot of melee bots even with short boost because he's huge and sprinting will let you kite them to death. 2 internals because that's all you're gonna use. Instead of short boost+ql you could use one of the 30 cost assault steps on sale so you can deal with a lot of jumps. the antiburning cat is surprisingly useful on him due to the kshields but it's not a must. save 15 capa for antihoming (very important). skip tec because the bonus dmg you get is pathetic and raise the hp instead.

Sword Guard>>Blast>>>>>Shell in case you want to use them

Then put eco boost run, the extra speed while burning, and stun supply (only if you really want him to last).

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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:48 am

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2. Dual slayer, because why not.
Actually dual spikes are pretty damn good on gunners that don't have any sort of built in countermeasure against melee. Stuff like Nemlim Mellow, Luto Sekka, or gunner EX Laz don't really need dual spike bits, but I can definitely see a CKAC benefiting from it
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 6:53 am

They are good, but not as great as one would want these days. Too much invincibility nonsense on nowaday melees, it's no longer "switch on and laugh at shitheads that try to leg hump you", they go right through dual spike with no fucks given.

Dual Slayer are great stunners, generally if you catch someone with it without their entire team as backup, they can consider themselves dead.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 7:04 am

Tuskin wrote:
Instead of short boost+ql you could use one of the 30 cost assault steps on sale so you can deal with a lot of jumps.

Last I checked you couldn't use those on L-size bots
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 7:30 am

no? then go with a lone short boost for when it needs to climb or jump over something.

don't pick radar unless you have the spare level and capa.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 12:50 pm

lel this thread.......


ATM why does it feel ur just fcking with us with that " 4x K-shield shit "

>no movement carts
NOPENOPENOPE
everything needs at least 1 movement cart ._.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 2:05 pm

So no to the quad k-shields? Okay, how about this, then?

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After putting eco boost run and stun supply on this, what do you all think?


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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 2:46 pm

das fast mane
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 3:08 pm

I'd drop Broad Radar for Short Boost so you can scale ledges and leap over obstacles, this is especially important when you are running dual K-Shield build, which locks your ability to fly.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 4:21 pm

reVelske wrote:
I'd drop Broad Radar for Short Boost so you can scale ledges and leap over obstacles, this is especially important when you are running dual K-Shield build, which locks your ability to fly.

That makes sense. Made the change.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 5:13 pm

Looks good enough now.

Switch 3 high rons for 3 tanks and put +1 walk with the remaining slots.

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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySun Aug 31, 2014 5:21 pm

Tuskin wrote:
Switch 3 high rons for 3 tanks and put +1 walk with the remaining slots.

That sounds nice and all, but I'm trying to keep this build as buildable as possible from UC or shop parts. 3-slot Accel Saber BS is easy enough to get, but the 3-slot other parts are a bit harder. If the others were easier to get, I'd do it. Razz
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i demand a Big yukkuri with Juggling HDJ
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySat Sep 06, 2014 1:26 pm

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It's everyone's favorite walking coffin! 37/2 EcoBR allows him to chase after AIRs and delay/escape death. Stun supply helps with ammo. What do you guys think?


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[Robot Name]
Sturbs

[Parts]
BD: Sturbanger BD
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 LG: Steel Rider LG [Tank]
 HD: Neon Neos HD [Tank] [Tank] [Tank]
  HDAC: Cute Beret
  FCAC: Recording Cam [High Run Alpha]
 BS: Sturbanger BS [Tank] [Tank]
 AM: Mediger AM [Tank] [Tank]
  WP: Cheer Pom-pon [Tank] [Tank] [High Tank]
 AM: Mediger AM [Tank] [Tank]
  WP: Cheer Pom-pon [Tank] [Tank] [High Tank]

[Config Check]
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK
AURA: OFF

[Stats]
TYPE: 砲
SIZE: L
COST: 1215
CAPA: 1220
HP: 710
STR: 5
TEC: 23
WLK: 37
FLY: 2
TGH: 19

LEVEL: 10

[Cartridges]
Capacity +50×6
Enhance Internal Weapon×2
Beam Guard
Boost Run

Too lazy to calculate the mats. Razz

It's everyone's favorite walking coffin! 37/2 EcoBR allows him to chase after AIRs and delay/escape death. What do you guys think?
u might as well make him 38/1
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySat Sep 06, 2014 1:36 pm

Sakura1 wrote:
u might as well make him 38/1
Both 37/2 and 38/1 BR are orange-tier breakpoints. I don't see the point. :/
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySat Sep 06, 2014 2:26 pm

Rexir2 wrote:
Sakura1 wrote:
u might as well make him 38/1
Both 37/2 and 38/1 BR are orange-tier breakpoints. I don't see the point. :/

Breakpoint
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Meta Enough?   Is this Meta Enough? EmptySat Sep 06, 2014 2:40 pm

Sakura1 wrote:
Rexir2 wrote:
Sakura1 wrote:
u might as well make him 38/1
Both 37/2 and 38/1 BR are orange-tier breakpoints. I don't see the point. :/

Breakpoint

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t7429-boost-run-short-boost-etc-etc-charts
See the first chart; they're both breakpoints. Razz
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