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PostSubject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?)   Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) - Page 18 EmptyMon Oct 27, 2014 9:39 am

Natasha/Hoplite with jet accel. no clue if she has bs slot.
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PostSubject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?)   Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) - Page 18 EmptyMon Oct 27, 2014 5:35 pm

dsp wrote:
>gamma tunes
I hope you're sticking that to a seraph

I can't use a Seraph.. she doesn't have Broad Radar.. except for FC.. but, even though power creep has rendered her less relevant to the meta, I still have strong feelings against her for how she damaged arena, pre-nerf.

When I played Battletech, I wouldn't even run a mech if it didn't have a Beagle Active Probe.

It was for an artillery unit that was extremely tight on capacity.. mostly because I'm paying 50 cost to see everyone on the radar. I had to find a way to fit more HP in without reducing my fly below 34 or my tec below 40.
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I just finished tuning her without a single slut proc Very Happy
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too bad you don't have slot pros you could have gone 2 High Air force 1 great force with the remaining capa
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PostSubject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?)   Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) - Page 18 EmptyTue Oct 28, 2014 1:09 pm

I don't actually care about ammo since we have:
- stun supply
- shell supply sup
- ammo item (this one)
But well, GForce is considerable, i will buy another AM when i have spare roots.
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PostSubject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?)   Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) - Page 18 EmptyTue Oct 28, 2014 1:21 pm

I don't know how much people shoot, but Stun Supply has never been the be all end all solution to ammo problem for me, I still run out of ammo more often than I'd like.
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You dodge too much :^)
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PostSubject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?)   Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) - Page 18 EmptyTue Oct 28, 2014 2:53 pm

I put Stun Supply on Chloe GL.. and I've ended matches with 100% of my staff ammo.. after spamming the staff all match. I think that it helps that she has shit for a tough stat.

I wish they'd invent a Stun Supply /A. Something that would work for all equipped weapons, but resupply less than regular SS. I think 2% (4% for a +) would be fair.. and make it suck up a ton of rainbows and crystals, so it has a high cost and wouldn't be used as much as SS.

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Also, I think that tier 3 and 4 Core Tunes should add cost and capacity to a bot.. like how Burst Missile AMJs make a bot fat. LMB should add like 30cost/30capacity.. or maybe 50..
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PostSubject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?)   Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) - Page 18 EmptyWed Oct 29, 2014 1:37 am

reVelske wrote:
I don't know how much people shoot, but Stun Supply has never been the be all end all solution to ammo problem for me, I still run out of ammo more often than I'd like.

on maps with meta cacti and healers it actually is the end all solution. Until your parts break.
Other times it's simply "free ammo" and there's actually 0 reason to take it since it's only tier 2. Depending on your HP pool you can get a fair amount of extra ammo from it, though from past discussions I seem to remember you running low HP pools which may account for your lack of understanding of the power of this tune. When you are looking at 500+hp builds instead of 420hp builds you can get stunned usually at most 3 additional times which results in a 15% ammo increase at base stun supply, which is the same as a gsupply tune. With stun supply+ this goes to 24% extra ammo, nearly gsupply+hsupply worth of ammo. Assuming this system of 100HP giving you about 3 stuns in a standard situation, a 500 HP bot with stun supply+ can more than double it's ammo, though isn't perfect it gives a sign of how powerful this tune is and how it scales in relation to HP and the HP meta, which when coupled with the healing meta becomes even stronger.
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I'll have to throw it on my LL Bulk Gat Cyclote to see, since he's above 500HP and regularly runs out. My Baron is above 500 as well but assuming CV negates Stun Supply trigger, it wouldn't benefit him as much as it should.
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Zwiebel Force wrote:
You dodge too much :^)
H-how Embarassed
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AnTi90d wrote:
I put Stun Supply on Chloe GL.. and I've ended matches with 100% of my staff ammo.. after spamming the staff all match. I think that it helps that she has shit for a tough stat.

I wish they'd invent a Stun Supply /A. Something that would work for all equipped weapons, but resupply less than regular SS. I think 2% (4% for a +) would be fair.. and make it suck up a ton of rainbows and crystals, so it has a high cost and wouldn't be used as much as SS.

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Also, I think that tier 3 and 4 Core Tunes should add cost and capacity to a bot.. like how Burst Missile AMJs make a bot fat. LMB should add like 30cost/30capacity.. or maybe 50..

Please Don't . Please....
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reVelske wrote:
I'll have to throw it on my LL Bulk Gat Cyclote to see, since he's above 500HP and regularly runs out. My Baron is above 500 as well but assuming CV negates Stun Supply trigger, it wouldn't benefit him as much as it should.

anything that negates stun regain negates stun supply, it it apples to CV yeah.
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wow that's fucking gay. now I cant tune it on my misty and cyclo
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dsp wrote:
wow that's fucking gay. now I cant tune it on my misty and cyclo

How is it gay? Besides it makes total sense that STUN supply doesn't work when you can't get STUNned.
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Well Stun Regain worked under CV for the longest time.

It purely depends on how they end up patching it mechanically. If they simply prevented Stun Regain from triggering but still allowed "stun" event to trigger (albeit without any effect), then Stun Supply would work, otherwise if they prevented stun event itself from triggering then that's a different story. But hey, people probably tested this already.... or did they?
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We tested non HP draining stuns, like melee stuns through vanic. Stun supply didn't work on those.
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Melee stun never counted though (even for Stun Regain) (that reminds me, wonder if Bounce Stun counts, gotta check), it's always been a matter of standard stun.

It's an easy test to perform anyways, will probably do it myself tonight.
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reVelske wrote:
Melee stun never counted though (even for Stun Regain)

what
melee stun counted, even for stun regain. That's why people were able to hop on cactus to heal during CV+stun regain days and why people can hop on them to get ammo back now. I was there personally to get a vanic and jump on a cactus and get stunned 10 times through the vanic and have it drop without getting ammo back, and then get ammo back on the 11th hit.


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Oh yeah that was a thing... but only because cactus's "attack" actually had a proper stun to it beyond the standard "melee stun" if I remember correctly? Oh well TEST WILL BE DONE AND ALL SHALL BE REVEALED.

I mean, hit someone with a 1 STR Cutter, it'll stun (the free melee stun), but Stun Regain wouldn't be triggered unless I'm getting old and senile and misremembering mechanics. For damage negating effect such as vainic, all it prevents is normal stun that are generated by damage + weapon inherent stun property hence no Stun Regain will get triggered, melee weapon's free melee stun are still allowed to trigger.
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well its not like ur CV gonna be 24/7 ._.
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well its not like ur CV gonna be 24/7 ._.

You cant leghump cactuses for ammo with a CV tuned bot. I hope you seriously dont think people will go to the enemy to get themselves stunned to regain ammo.
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dsp wrote:
Sakura1 wrote:
well its not like ur CV gonna be 24/7 ._.

You cant leghump cactuses for ammo with a CV tuned bot. I hope you seriously dont think people will go to the enemy to get themselves stunned to regain ammo.

lel u people be leghumping cactuses ; w ;

people and there weird fetish

Well true the cactuses slip my mind :V
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Acupuncture fans, i guess...
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Not every map has cacti.
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