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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: My First Build Fri May 09, 2014 10:28 pm | |
| So this is my first time actually thinking about tuning. My stella is lvl 8 and i need tips. I already started a build and i want to see if i can improve it and make it better. Any ideas are appreciated. Thx [Robot Name] Stella [Parts] BD: Stella BD : Beam Bit(default) : Stella LG [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech] : Stella HD [Ranger] [Ranger] [High Tough] : Caracal Radar [High Boost Beta] : Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Tech] : Stella AM [Ranger] [Ranger] [High Tech Alpha] : - : Stella AM [Ranger] [Ranger] [High Tech Alpha] : - : Stella BD@ : Stella BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [High Rapid Alpha] : Auto-Charge Cassette [Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF [Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1340 CAPA: 1345 HP: 485 STR: 1 TEC: 38 WLK: 4 FLY: 37 TGH: 11 LEVEL: 10 [Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Quick Boost Quick Jump Sniper Sight Broad Radar [Material] Fudara Cosmos×11 Midoro Cosmos×6 Ones Cosmos×2 Twode Cosmos×1 Red Chip×40 Yellow Chip×50 Stabilizer×170 Turbo Charger×38 Brake Damper×13 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×9 Drum Magazine×26 Guide Circuit×36 Hard Plate×11 Screw Bolts×120 Steel Wheel×72 | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: My First Build Fri May 09, 2014 10:45 pm | |
| FIRST and FOREMOST, why are you preserving STR when you're using the default bit? |
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aosepsa 용개형 보고있지? EE!!
Posts : 1595 Join date : 2013-11-26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Fri May 09, 2014 10:54 pm | |
| 2nd, why High TEC, TGH, and High Boost Alpha? | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 37 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: My First Build Fri May 09, 2014 11:15 pm | |
| Isn't the Auto-charge Casette her charge-up attck? R u even supposed to drop the other main weapon? You also missed the last FLY breakpoint by 1. You didn't take the Glide Boost cart, which is odd. I hear that's her sellig point, but then again, opinions. - I tried:
[Robot Name] Stella
[Parts] BD: Stella BD : Propeller Bit : Stella LG [Life] [Life] : Stella HD [Life] [Life] [Life] : Caracal Radar [Eagle] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [Life] [Life] : Cosmic Cola [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : Stella AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Cosmic Cola [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : Stella BD@ : Stella BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : - : Aurora Cannon : Auto-Charge Cassette : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1345 CAPA: 1345 HP: 620 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 4 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 9
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Fast Recovery Quick Boost Glide Boost
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×20 Midoro Cosmos×1 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×30 Yellow Chip×50 Stabilizer×91 Turbo Charger×51 Physical Stone×83 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×18 Guide Circuit×77 Heat Ash×15 Screw Bolts×35 Steel Wheel×12 Generic Element×56 Superior Element×14 Tech Element×105
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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Fri May 09, 2014 11:43 pm | |
| Lol srry if my build looks stupid im kinda new and i was told to tune tech and fly. | |
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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sat May 10, 2014 12:02 am | |
| How bout this?
[Robot Name] Stella
[Parts] BD: Stella BD : Beam Bit(default) : Stella LG [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Stella HD [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [Life] : Caracal Radar [Eagle] : Ace of Hearts Earrings [Life] : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella BD@ : Stella BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha] : Auto-Charge Cassette
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1335 CAPA: 1345 HP: 560 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 4 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Quick Boost Quick Jump Broad Radar Glide Boost
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×16 Midoro Cosmos×1 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×30 Yellow Chip×50 Stabilizer×104 Turbo Charger×51 Physical Stone×10 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×18 Guide Circuit×88 Heat Ash×15 Screw Bolts×30 Steel Wheel×12 Generic Element×64 Superior Element×16 Tech Element×120
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Incendium Regular Poster
Posts : 206 Join date : 2012-01-03
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sun May 11, 2014 7:31 am | |
| - scarlion wrote:
- How bout this?
- Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Stella
[Parts] BD: Stella BD : Beam Bit(default) : Stella LG [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Stella HD [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [Life] : Caracal Radar [Eagle] : Ace of Hearts Earrings [Life] : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella BD@ : Stella BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha] : Auto-Charge Cassette
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1335 CAPA: 1345 HP: 560 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 4 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Quick Boost Quick Jump Broad Radar Glide Boost
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×16 Midoro Cosmos×1 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×30 Yellow Chip×50 Stabilizer×104 Turbo Charger×51 Physical Stone×10 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×18 Guide Circuit×88 Heat Ash×15 Screw Bolts×30 Steel Wheel×12 Generic Element×64 Superior Element×16 Tech Element×120
You should use the +1 stat 10 cost handheld, they give you more slot. They can be replace when slot break instead of junking the bot.
Slot Ace of Heart Earring is really really really rare, so dont count on it for a build.
Unless you really rich, leave out the Ex tune, the material for them cost a lot. On a side note, you get to have max 10 Ex tune on 1 bot.
Not sure you really need Broad Radar. Air generally get a good view so I dont take this cart with them, but it a personal preference. | |
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Stickboy Master Poster
Posts : 2971 Join date : 2011-05-23 Age : 30 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sun May 11, 2014 7:54 am | |
| again, you're using default bit and preserving 1 str | |
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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sun May 11, 2014 5:35 pm | |
| Wat about the tunes on her weapon? Are they good | |
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Ryuuichiro Ace Poster
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Je T'aime
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sun May 11, 2014 7:11 pm | |
| EZ - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Stella
[Parts] BD: Stella BD : Beam Bit(default) : Stella LG [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] [Life] : Stella HD [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [Life] : Hana Kanzashi [EX High Tech Alpha] : Eris Scarf [Ranger] : Stella AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [Life] : Wedding Bouquet ALPHA [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] : Stella AM [High Boost Beta] [Ranger] [Ranger] : Wedding Bouquet ALPHA [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] : Stella BD@ : Beezle BS [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [Great Rapid Beta] : Auto-Charge Cassette
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1350 CAPA: 1350 HP: 600 STR: -8 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 8
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Beam Guard Fast Recovery Air Loop
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×100 Fudara Cosmos×58 Midoro Cosmos×23 Yoguru Cosmos×10 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×110 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×40 Green Chip×40 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×126 Turbo Charger×40 Physical Stone×151 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×24 Guide Circuit×49 Heat Ash×15 Hard Plate×100 Screw Bolts×60 Steel Wheel×36 Miracle Ammonite×40 Shining Feather×40 Generic Element×120 Superior Element×30 Tech Element×70 Boost Element×30
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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sun May 11, 2014 8:35 pm | |
| I dont mind grinding for elements This may be my final build. I personally think it turned out rather nicely Also would somebody be kind enough to explain why 1str and default bits are bad? - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Stella
[Parts] BD: Stella BD : Propeller Bit : Stella LG [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] : Stella HD [EX High Tech] [Life] [Life] : Caracal Radar [Eagle] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : Cosmic Cola [Life] : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : Cosmic Cola [Life] : Stella BD@ : Stella BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Aurora Cannon : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha] : Auto-Charge Cassette : -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1335 CAPA: 1345 HP: 605 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 4 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Quick Boost Quick Jump Sniper Sight Glide Boost
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×17 Midoro Cosmos×1 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×30 Yellow Chip×50 Stabilizer×91 Turbo Charger×51 Physical Stone×20 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×18 Guide Circuit×77 Heat Ash×15 Screw Bolts×40 Steel Wheel×12 Generic Element×92 Superior Element×23 Tech Element×105 Boost Element×30
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Ryuuichiro Ace Poster
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Je T'aime
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sun May 11, 2014 8:59 pm | |
| 1. Because keeping STR at 1 means you're preserving it for the DURATION of your wonder bit. Getting either STR/TEC at a negative value will get you only about 3-4 seconds of wonder bit effect. In the case of your previous builds you had the DEFAULT on (so your 1 STR is rather pointless). Here on your last, you have the propeller so it's more understandable. You still have 10 free capa though so where do you plan on putting that?
2. Your tune choices. And I got this from listening for almost a year to Winty, Aurum_Sol, relict, Suguri and probably everyone else who kept on helping me back then. What you should consider first is your playstyle. By knowing that, you can come up with your final stat output. Once you have something you're comfortable with, plot out your stats by maximizing both costs and slots, whilst also thinking about the "probability" of the tune succeeding outside of OMEGA harmonics or bonus-round tunes (like the event we have right now). In this case, you have a lot of [HIGH TEC] tunes which cost 15 capa and have a 45% chance at success (on the first slot). That's both inefficient cost-wise and less-suggested since you'll be doing multiples of them, further decreasing your success chances by 10% with each consecutive slot. Simply doing 2 vanilla TEC tunes saves you 5 capa, not to mention a lot of frustration on failed tunes. And if you're worried about where to put your EX tunes then, then that's where your other stat tunes (i.e. High Boost Beta) come into play.
3. Where you put your tunes. It's more practical to just get a handheld and tune that with your EX tunes so you can switch said handheld around to other bots/moes that you plan on using. Just my thoughts.
4. You don't need to use default parts. Especially your boosters. Getting a different, universally-used, cost-efficient booster with "powerful tunes" (like an EX tuned Beezle BS as what I've given as an example) is more practical and banks on the same concept as my 3rd point.
5. Cart choices. Not all things need to be leveled to 10. Quick Boost? Quick Jump? It's been a long time since I put these on anything, actually. Not that I question their use, I just don't find them very useful for AIRs in particular. Have you ever tried Glide Boost out to consider if it would be worth taking over Air Loop or Accele Roll? Sniper Sight? Why this?
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I don't know. It's entirely up to you how you'd build or play your bot. If you're comfortable with it and you're having fun, then by all means. | |
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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Sun May 11, 2014 9:20 pm | |
| My head just kinda exploded | |
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Incendium Regular Poster
Posts : 206 Join date : 2012-01-03
| Subject: Re: My First Build Mon May 12, 2014 9:31 am | |
| The problem with Ex tune is getting Generic element. The main way of doing it outside of Bazaar is by Dispatch Disk. It sent out a set of bot, then you wait for the time (1 hrs min to 2 day max depend on mission) to be up to see if you succeed or not. You got to build dispatch point by doing the easier one. Then you have to make set of 5 to 10 bot that would give you the best chance for the more difficult mission. If you succeed, then you will have a chance of getting a few element. The chance for generic is rather low if you not using Aludra Disk (100rt). Generic sell for about 10k to 15k UC, but only if you can find some one who willing to sell.
People don't like Sniper Sight because, unless it really chaotic, your shot going to give your position away. SS may hide that 1st shot but people can still see where it come from.
I believe jump speed is base on Fly, so Quick Jump not really needed here. | |
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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Mon May 12, 2014 9:44 pm | |
| Is it worth it to add cimson veil at the cost of like 60 less health - Something Like this:
[Robot Name] Stella
[Parts] BD: Stella BD : Propeller Bit : Stella LG [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [Crimson Veil] : Stella HD [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Caracal Radar [Eagle] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella BD@ : Stella BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha] : Auto-Charge Cassette
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1320 CAPA: 1345 HP: 560 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 4 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Beam Guard Fast Recovery Quick Boost Glide Boost
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×50 Fudara Cosmos×34 Midoro Cosmos×11 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×30 Blue Chip×10 Yellow Chip×50 Green Chip×10 Rainbow Chip×10 Stabilizer×104 Turbo Charger×51 Physical Stone×50 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×18 Guide Circuit×88 Heat Ash×15 Hard Plate×50 Screw Bolts×20 Steel Wheel×12 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20 Generic Element×88 Superior Element×22 Tech Element×120 Boost Element×20
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Incendium Regular Poster
Posts : 206 Join date : 2012-01-03
| Subject: Re: My First Build Tue May 13, 2014 8:14 am | |
| - scarlion wrote:
- Is it worth it to add cimson veil at the cost of like 60 less health
- Something Like this:
[Robot Name] Stella
[Parts] BD: Stella BD : Propeller Bit : Stella LG [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [Crimson Veil] : Stella HD [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Caracal Radar [Eagle] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella AM [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] : - : Stella BD@ : Stella BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Charge Delay Cassette [Force] [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha] : Auto-Charge Cassette
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1320 CAPA: 1345 HP: 560 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 4 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Beam Guard Fast Recovery Quick Boost Glide Boost
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×50 Fudara Cosmos×34 Midoro Cosmos×11 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×30 Blue Chip×10 Yellow Chip×50 Green Chip×10 Rainbow Chip×10 Stabilizer×104 Turbo Charger×51 Physical Stone×50 Strike Metal×8 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×18 Guide Circuit×88 Heat Ash×15 Hard Plate×50 Screw Bolts×20 Steel Wheel×12 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20 Generic Element×88 Superior Element×22 Tech Element×120 Boost Element×20
Revenge tune usually done in pair since the chance of it activating with 1 tune is low. As for should you get it, it depend how much you get stun playing her. If you can avoid stun most time then dont tune CV. | |
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scarlion Newbie
Posts : 35 Join date : 2014-05-06 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: My First Build Tue May 13, 2014 9:25 am | |
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