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PostSubject: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 2:42 pm

As opposed to ordinary gwyain, the absol is a lot more good things...

the EIW give force as well as speed and ammo
the weapon has some slight homing to it, nothing crazy here but it's still good
it's an aura bot which means free infinite flight with aura blitzelt bs
the wings are actually AMJs that you can put on other bots

i don't know what i can say about the sword, i don't do melee...

all-round i think it's a decent unit that deserves some time put into it

Usual builds would probably be fine, things like 40/38 SDC, thoarla arms, all that cool stuff

I have but ONE question about this: do you think his internal (with both EIW) is good enough to be used as a main weapon with an ammo farming side arm?
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 2:47 pm

Oh THIS is what you were asking me about in-game? The homing isn't strong enough to hit targets, so still no on your last question.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 2:53 pm

I got pestered by some Absols lately. the homig sems good enough.

Talking about elee being criminal :V
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 2:55 pm

Idk about not being good enough to hit... I've hit with it more than I have with the SDC mod...
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 2:56 pm

To give you an idea of how his internal is; aquila girl is like a chibi gwyain
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 3:00 pm

Wow, I must have seen very bad users then o -o
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 3:07 pm

Astral_Goddess wrote:
Oh THIS is what you were asking me about in-game? The homing isn't strong enough to hit targets, so still no on your last question.
You haven't played one yet, have you? Try one out if you can, and make SURE it has both eiws. it gains 100 speed and 400 ammo, along with 2 force.

Like Nilla said,
Nilla wrote:
To give you an idea of how his internal is; aquila girl is like a chibi gwyain

I'm actually a bit concerned for where the meta might head with these, because this is on a whole different level when compared to other homing corespam airs like AG and Vector. Expect another vector tier homo metashift incoming for a few months at the least.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 3:19 pm

Kobrakai wrote:
Astral_Goddess wrote:
Oh THIS is what you were asking me about in-game? The homing isn't strong enough to hit targets, so still no on your last question.
You haven't played one yet, have you?
Astral_Goddess wrote:
Wow, I must have seen very bad users then o -o
I'm going off what I saw from others.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 3:39 pm

Astral_Goddess wrote:
Kobrakai wrote:
Astral_Goddess wrote:
Oh THIS is what you were asking me about in-game? The homing isn't strong enough to hit targets, so still no on your last question.
You haven't played one yet, have you?
Astral_Goddess wrote:
Wow, I must have seen very bad users then o -o
I'm going off what I saw from others.
Yeah, I wouldn't do that. The bot is ridiculously good, and spreading misinformation about things you actually don't know anything about makes you look bad you know.

Spreading misinformation to prevent a cosmic holocaust is okay though, but I don't think that's going to happen because it's way too easy to figure out how stupid the new gywain is. All it takes is a few players learning about his core and spamming it effective in arena to start a snowball meta shift. I really do think it's that stupid good.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 3:43 pm

Kobrakai wrote:
Astral_Goddess wrote:
Kobrakai wrote:

You haven't played one yet, have you?
Astral_Goddess wrote:
Wow, I must have seen very bad users then o -o
I'm going off what I saw from others.
Yeah, I wouldn't do that. The bot is ridiculously good, and spreading misinformation about things you actually don't know anything about makes you look bad you know.

Spreading misinformation to prevent a cosmic holocaust is okay though, but I don't think that's going to happen because it's way too easy to figure out how stupid the new gywain is. All it takes is a few players learning about his core and spamming it effective in arena to start a snowball meta shift. I really do think it's that stupid good.
I saw in a few matches what Nilla was doing with it and he got 1st with it a couple times. I guess I really was just witnessing bad users of it. Kinda makes me want one too since I lack any good AIRs in this meta, best I got is a 2010 Alphag.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:05 pm

so basically he a homing fagg0t with melee and aura? .__.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:20 pm

you'd probably ditch the melee if you choose to be homing fagg0t
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:21 pm

Sakura1 wrote:
so basically he a homing fagg0t with melee and aura? .__.
I don't know why you'd keep the sword on him, but okay sure. The aura is only relevant if you build it around a blitzelt/lux booster, but why wouldn't you? You literally build him just like vector, but with aura (rip vector raid): take off all his parts, use mach knight lgs, use air raider ams, give him 40 tec 38 fly and a lux/blitzelt bs, make sure you maintain at least 1str, and get 2 eiws. Spam core. That's it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:26 pm

Kobrakai wrote:
Sakura1 wrote:
so basically he a homing fagg0t with melee and aura? .__.
I don't know why you'd keep the sword on him, but okay sure. The aura is only relevant if you build it around a blitzelt/lux booster, but why wouldn't you? You literally build him just like vector, but with aura (rip vector raid): take off all his parts, use mach knight lgs, use air raider ams, give him 40 tec 38 fly and a lux/blitzelt bs, make sure you maintain at least 1str, and get 2 eiws. Spam core. That's it.

Rip aura thorla am holder
I'll wait for the next L aura bot without built in weapon for it I guess


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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:26 pm

BRB makin dis

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Inb4 "this build is shit"
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:28 pm

its not "shit" per say, but
> Busted Stungun

Why?

Spoiler:

My version
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:51 pm

>Segment tail lgj
>moulin
>that cost
>left over walk
now THAT is why
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:53 pm

lol I went full hp and didn't care about dropping stat. I'm curious as to the level of hp it can reach, not that its useful as you'll outlive your ammo with 500-600 hp anyways

Why would you go out of your way to dunk stat?
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:58 pm

But there's no need for moulin bsj or segment tail lgj since you have leftover walk.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 4:58 pm

Because keeping stats you don't need is a waste of cost?
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 5:01 pm

All these builds with spare STR and WLK
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 5:04 pm

Moulin bs> 15 cost 15 hp, the hp pays itself
Segment tail -> I can switch that to the 9tail LGj or pink devil LGj easily to justify the 5 cost to 5 hp, but I added that to have a free slot without adding a handheld, so when I made it seg tail is the 1st thing that comes to mind

As I have added before, I did that just to see the amount of HP I can achieve with little amount of effort
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 5:11 pm

beccadmgirl wrote:
its not "shit" per say, but
> Busted Stungun

Why?

Spoiler:

My version

>stungun

because i have one fully tuned.

as for your build, it costs far more, it has a lot fewer carts but it has more hp.

is it worth it?

mmmm i don't know.
my build is level 9 with capa carts left. if you wish, you can take a 10th cart as capa and tune hp which would be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 5:21 pm

you don't need free slots you have 4 +1 tech tunes and tons of leftover STR.
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PostSubject: Re: Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool?   Gwyain Absol 2kool4skool? EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 5:27 pm

and his is basically twice as fat as mine.
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