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+10UncleBobbie colfenor1337 beccadmgirl Winty Kuzuha God is a Cat Girl Nfi Yokura Miko Miko Spark Moghul 14 posters |
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Yokura Ace Poster
Posts : 1237 Join date : 2010-12-31
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:06 am | |
| Nope. You can overwrite Alcy's hack buff extremely easily and extremely frequently. It is always the last thing you hack, regardless of how long you've had your previous hack. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:14 am | |
| obviously the zero and support buffs are a bit better than the land and air buffs, but honestly the difference in damage output is not that huge. As long as you actually HAVE a buff on you, you'll be pretty effective. | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:34 am | |
| Lnd and air deal the same damage, sup deals much less, zero deals more. Lnd seems to be the hardest to hit with, zero feels a lot easier. Zero actually deals good damage, and since the explosions are bigger, you will hit more often.
Sup is no good for damage, you only use it to cockblock arts.
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Moghul I understand nothing
Posts : 1832 Join date : 2011-06-12 Age : 30 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:06 pm | |
| So I was thinking (and yes, i am trying to quit this bad habit) and went and swiftly calced me a piece of shit. Note this alcy is shop: - Alcy Hurrvette:
[Robot Name] Alcy
[Parts] BD: Alcy BD : Dual Blaster Bit : Alcy LG [Great Tech Alpha] : Alcy HD [Great Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Alcy BS2 : Hacking Unit ALPHA(G) [High Tech Alpha] : Long Flag BSJ : Tycoon Hogroid BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [Tech] : Alcy AM [High Boost Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Alcy AM2 [High Boost Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Analyze Unit (G.COSMOS) [Air Force] : -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1220 CAPA: 1235 HP: 420 STR: 1 TEC: 33 WLK: 7 FLY: 38 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Float Dash Quick Boost Sniper Sight Zero Cartridge×3
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×3 Fudara Cosmos×10 Midoro Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×80 Yellow Chip×60 Rainbow Chip×3 Stabilizer×85 Turbo Charger×54 Scope Lens×22 Rapid Crystal×21 Drum Magazine×55 Guide Circuit×50
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:08 pm | |
| UC hacking unit has no cost BTW. | |
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Yokura Ace Poster
Posts : 1237 Join date : 2010-12-31
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:41 pm | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- UC hacking unit has no cost BTW.
Yea I noticed this. I was contemplating buying the shop version to replace the Gara hacking unit conversion part, since the hacking unit is pretty much only used to draw buffs. Unsure how exactly it'd affect things though. *shrug* A lot of things could change and there's only one way to find out! ... eventually. needs monies. - Moghul wrote:
- So I was thinking (and yes, i am trying to quit this bad habit) and went and swiftly calced me a piece of shit. Note this alcy is shop:
- Alcy Hurrvette:
[Robot Name] Alcy
[Parts] BD: Alcy BD : Dual Blaster Bit : Alcy LG [Great Tech Alpha] : Alcy HD [Great Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Alcy BS2 : Hacking Unit ALPHA(G) [High Tech Alpha] : Long Flag BSJ : Tycoon Hogroid BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [Tech] : Alcy AM [High Boost Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Alcy AM2 [High Boost Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Analyze Unit (G.COSMOS) [Air Force] : -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1220 CAPA: 1235 HP: 420 STR: 1 TEC: 33 WLK: 7 FLY: 38 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Float Dash Quick Boost Sniper Sight Zero Cartridge×3
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×3 Fudara Cosmos×10 Midoro Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×80 Yellow Chip×60 Rainbow Chip×3 Stabilizer×85 Turbo Charger×54 Scope Lens×22 Rapid Crystal×21 Drum Magazine×55 Guide Circuit×50
To be honest, I think you'd get more mileage going for HP instead of more tec. a Force tune on the weapon will take you just as far as 20 extra tec given the low base force of the weapon. Especially shop version. Meaning... I would change the Great tunes into perhaps High tec tunes, and your normal tec into high tec tunes. Or trade them both in for Ranger tunes. Also, which zero cart did you deem not worth taking? | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:33 pm | |
| nova is shit don't take level 2 wtf | |
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Yokura Ace Poster
Posts : 1237 Join date : 2010-12-31
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:39 pm | |
| I never figured out what the Nova cart even did. What DOES it do? It sure as hell doesn't increase damage :c | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:50 pm | |
| how can you even know the damage if the damn thing doesn't hit anything that's not a tree at 18 tec with the second cart I can't 2 shot trees with the nova SEND HELP | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:43 am | |
| - Yokura wrote:
- God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- UC hacking unit has no cost BTW.
Yea I noticed this. I was contemplating buying the shop version to replace the Gara hacking unit conversion part, since the hacking unit is pretty much only used to draw buffs.
Unsure how exactly it'd affect things though. *shrug* A lot of things could change and there's only one way to find out!
... eventually. needs monies.
- Moghul wrote:
- So I was thinking (and yes, i am trying to quit this bad habit) and went and swiftly calced me a piece of shit. Note this alcy is shop:
- Alcy Hurrvette:
[Robot Name] Alcy
[Parts] BD: Alcy BD : Dual Blaster Bit : Alcy LG [Great Tech Alpha] : Alcy HD [Great Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Alcy BS2 : Hacking Unit ALPHA(G) [High Tech Alpha] : Long Flag BSJ : Tycoon Hogroid BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [Tech] : Alcy AM [High Boost Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Alcy AM2 [High Boost Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Analyze Unit (G.COSMOS) [Air Force] : -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1220 CAPA: 1235 HP: 420 STR: 1 TEC: 33 WLK: 7 FLY: 38 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Float Dash Quick Boost Sniper Sight Zero Cartridge×3
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×3 Fudara Cosmos×10 Midoro Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×80 Yellow Chip×60 Rainbow Chip×3 Stabilizer×85 Turbo Charger×54 Scope Lens×22 Rapid Crystal×21 Drum Magazine×55 Guide Circuit×50
To be honest, I think you'd get more mileage going for HP instead of more tec. a Force tune on the weapon will take you just as far as 20 extra tec given the low base force of the weapon. Especially shop version. Meaning... I would change the Great tunes into perhaps High tec tunes, and your normal tec into high tec tunes. Or trade them both in for Ranger tunes.
Also, which zero cart did you deem not worth taking? UC hacking unit hits a lot less because of less range and speed. Nova L2 cart only adds the explosion to it. | |
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Moghul I understand nothing
Posts : 1832 Join date : 2011-06-12 Age : 30 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:20 am | |
| ok, i'll try and make another tune
also nova cart? fucking useless. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:12 am | |
| anyone tested extend support on her yet? | |
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colfenor1337 Ace Poster
Posts : 1868 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:15 am | |
| I'm trying UC Alcy for Alpha build around 2 Cross Shooters Mod. Do note I don't take the Nova upgrade ZERO cart and Hacking Unit BETA has no cost (hence the extra 30 capa). - -str anyway. plz comment if my action is wise. :
[Robot Name] Alcy
[Parts] BD: Alcy BD : Beam Bit(default) : Alcy LG [High Capacity] : Alcy HD [High Tech Beta] : Crimrose Gear T [Great Boost Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Alcy BS2 : Hacking Unit ALPHA(G) [Great Boost Alpha] : Moulin BSJ [High Tech Alpha] : Initone BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Boost] : Alcy AM [Great Boost Alpha] : Cross Shooter Mod [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Alcy AM2 [Great Boost Alpha] : Cross Shooter Mod [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [Boost] : Analyze Unit (G.COSMOS) [High Boost Beta] : -
[Config Check] COST: OVERCOST BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1340 CAPA: 1310 HP: 440 STR: -3 TEC: 35 WLK: 6 FLY: 38 TGH: 8
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Moving Burst Zero Cartridge×3 Accele Roll
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×10 Midoro Cosmos×14 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Red Chip×65 Yellow Chip×90 Green Chip×25 Rainbow Chip×20 Power Amp×400 Stabilizer×52 Engine Shaft×400 Turbo Charger×88 Rapid Crystal×44 Drum Magazine×50 Guide Circuit×36 Prism Glass×200 Steel Wheel×100 Miracle Ammonite×40 Shining Feather×40
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Yokura Ace Poster
Posts : 1237 Join date : 2010-12-31
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:24 am | |
| You don't have to put the hacking unit in the calc btw. Also... The calc doesn't reflect this, but you can replace Alcy BS2 with an actual booster. This will give you more stats and more slots. | |
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UncleBobbie Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-03-02 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:26 am | |
| Kind of off topic. How do you know if you're one of the 200 first people who got her? Simply by waiting until the next maintenance when the bonuses are given out? | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:41 am | |
| - UncleBobbie wrote:
- Kind of off topic. How do you know if you're one of the 200 first people who got her? Simply by waiting until the next maintenance when the bonuses are given out?
Yes. And with the cost of that Alcy, you have to wonder if it's worthy to build her that way, or if you want an actual alpha. This is, using Alcy for Alcy, or using something that is worthy the cost (costwise and matswise). Well, assuming you never got Tierouge, Alcy has her plus. Having Kata or Tierouge kinda of grants you the boost refill, just not the prop effect. BTW, do HBB first, and tec later (Great tec probably). | |
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colfenor1337 Ace Poster
Posts : 1868 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:04 pm | |
| - Yokura wrote:
- You don't have to put the hacking unit in the calc btw. Also... The calc doesn't reflect this, but you can replace Alcy BS2 with an actual booster. This will give you more stats and more slots.
Nope can't do that. | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:08 pm | |
| - colfenor1337 wrote:
- Yokura wrote:
- You don't have to put the hacking unit in the calc btw. Also... The calc doesn't reflect this, but you can replace Alcy BS2 with an actual booster. This will give you more stats and more slots.
Nope can't do that. You can. Both of her BS are removable. Though her BS2 can only go on that exact BS slot, and can't be used on other bots. | |
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colfenor1337 Ace Poster
Posts : 1868 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:22 pm | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- colfenor1337 wrote:
- Yokura wrote:
- You don't have to put the hacking unit in the calc btw. Also... The calc doesn't reflect this, but you can replace Alcy BS2 with an actual booster. This will give you more stats and more slots.
Nope can't do that. You can.
Both of her BS are removable. Though her BS2 can only go on that exact BS slot, and can't be used on other bots. Yes I know both of her BSs are removable. Nonetheless, her BS2 can't be swapped with BS of your choice. I just tried that in game. I do know it is possible in CosmiCalc. | |
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UncleBobbie Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-03-02 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:30 pm | |
| - colfenor1337 wrote:
- God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- colfenor1337 wrote:
- Nope can't do that.
You can.
Both of her BS are removable. Though her BS2 can only go on that exact BS slot, and can't be used on other bots. Yes I know both of her BSs are removable. Nonetheless, her BS2 can't be swapped with BS of your choice. I just tried that in game. I do know it is possible in CosmiCalc. You need to unequip the booster, then equip another booster and it will work in-game. Of course, the conversion parts can't be attached to other boosters. | |
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colfenor1337 Ace Poster
Posts : 1868 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:50 pm | |
| Oh totally works thanks UncleBobbie and God is a Cat Girl. So without the Hacking Unit, I guess that I'll use 3 ZERO carts only then, considering how sucky her Nova is. - Again, is the -str good for her? She do get the steal boost though. :/:
[Robot Name] Alcy
[Parts] BD: Alcy BD : Beam Bit(default) : Alcy LG [High Boost Beta] : Alcy HD [High Boost Beta] : Crimrose Gear T [High Boost Beta] : Crimrose Gear F [High Boost Beta] : Alcy BS2 : Initone BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Initone BS [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Alcy AM [High Tech Beta] : Cross Shooter Mod [High Tech Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Alcy AM2 [High Tech Beta] : Cross Shooter Mod [High Tech Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Analyze Unit (G.COSMOS) [High Tech Beta] : -
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: S COST: 1220 CAPA: 1230 HP: 450 STR: -11 TEC: 35 WLK: 8 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Moving Burst Zero Cartridge×3 Accele Roll
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×17 Red Chip×85 Yellow Chip×45 Green Chip×40 Stabilizer×40 Turbo Charger×45 Drum Magazine×27 Guide Circuit×24
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Moghul I understand nothing
Posts : 1832 Join date : 2011-06-12 Age : 30 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:51 pm | |
| no hacking unit=no prop effect and fancy shooty things. | |
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+RedCobra+ Ace Poster
Posts : 1440 Join date : 2013-05-30 Age : 31 Location : Inside chibi house and hug my lovely chibi crim.
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:56 pm | |
| - Moghul wrote:
- no hacking unit=no prop effect and fancy shooty things.
yup. just remove those useless conversion parts, and then equip Plasma beam gun / umbrella / or other Op weapons you have for airs. remember to take her infinity re-boost. ahueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. | |
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Moghul I understand nothing
Posts : 1832 Join date : 2011-06-12 Age : 30 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:04 pm | |
| - Cobra76 wrote:
- Moghul wrote:
- no hacking unit=no prop effect and fancy shooty things.
yup. just remove those useless conversion parts, and then equip Plasma beam gun / umbrella / or other Op weapons you have for airs.
remember to take her infinity re-boost.
ahueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. uhm... you WANT the hacking unit for the prop effect. | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: Alcy problems Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:09 pm | |
| - Moghul wrote:
- Cobra76 wrote:
- Moghul wrote:
- no hacking unit=no prop effect and fancy shooty things.
yup. just remove those useless conversion parts, and then equip Plasma beam gun / umbrella / or other Op weapons you have for airs.
remember to take her infinity re-boost.
ahueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. uhm... you WANT the hacking unit for the prop effect. Or like her said, you can take out the conversion parts, get a weapon and get 2 zero carts for the reboost. | |
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