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 Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.

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PostSubject: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 3:53 am

Hello,

I recently pulled both from Garapon. I have no idea if they should be built tanky like tuned hp and wlk or str and walk for both. I'm probably going with sway among other carts because I main art with sway and I like it that way. Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 4:25 am

using the search function, i found this:

Astral_Goddess wrote:
http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/search?mode=searchbox&search_keywords=Elisalotte&show_results=topics

This might help.

Try the same with Ouka.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 4:31 am

I see mixed builds on Elisa. Is it better to emphasize on a balance between wlk and str? Is she one of the front-line characters like the vanguards?
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 4:36 am

I'm seeing 20 str 36 wlk builds. IDK what to say, you can decide on your own.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 4:37 am

Huh....lol, I'm so confused. So put some more in wlk i guess then.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 6:24 am

So this is what I plan on doing using my current items for Ouka. I don't think stealth system is worth it since I always meet with people with broad radar at least once every two games. I also think it's the only way for me to get her stats up to par too since my extra accessories have no slots for upgrades. I'm gonna see Elisalotte later since I don't have a firm grasp on her role lol.


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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 8:46 am

is this really Ouka Scarlet? o.o? doesnt look like it .-.

(Cuz Ouka Scarlet if i remember correctly has Assault Step....)
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 9:52 am

No, that's BD1 and Scarlet doesn't naturally get assault step.
Scarlet doesn't need slow, she works perfectly fine without it. Either pump it for hp/change to ggrap/hglad.

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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 10:02 am

Is this from Garapon UNIT02? Elisallote Glanz and Ouka Scarlet?
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Pork Chop wrote:
Is this from Garapon UNIT02? Elisallote Glanz and Ouka Scarlet?
do you not read the title?
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Pork Chop wrote:
Is this from Garapon UNIT02? Elisallote Glanz and Ouka Scarlet?
Yes

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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 11:37 am

Stickboy wrote:
Pork Chop wrote:
Is this from Garapon UNIT02? Elisallote Glanz and Ouka Scarlet?
do you not read the title?
Wirbelwind mentioned Elisalotte, not Elisalotte Glanz... I was looking for an Elisalotte in the garapon lists and only Elisalotte Glanz was available.

Wirbelwind posted an Ouka build, some of its parts does not match with the actual Ouka Scarlet. I have an actual Ouka Scarlet and here are what I noticed:

1. Ouka Scarlet is Ouka BD3 not Ouka BD

2. It is the Ouka AM2 that holds the Shinuchi Ouraikiri not the Ouka AM.

3. Ouka AM2 is not joint with Ouka AM@

I am simply asking for clarity before I put any opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyTue Oct 15, 2013 7:39 pm

My bad, I didn't notice the difference in parts when I did the calculations. I thought the only diffrenc ebetween Ouka Scarlet and the original was the cost of the sword.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyWed Oct 16, 2013 8:03 am

about Ouka Scarlet:



36 WLK (please confirm if my WLK breakpoint is correct), with Sway and 3x Slow tune sword. Crimson Veil on LG will be great. Whatever remains from your capacity, use it to pump STR. Blast Guard have always been recommended while Sword Guard seems to be optional when I observed builds.

I don't have Elisallote Glanz so I won't advice anything on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyWed Oct 16, 2013 9:50 am

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This is what I would suggest, works pretty well for me.
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Trill wrote:
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This is what I would suggest, works pretty well for me.
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May I ask where you get assault step? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptyWed Oct 16, 2013 11:28 am

Assault step from autumn coins I believe
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptySun Oct 27, 2013 1:53 am

Since when did Autumn coins give out assault step? o_0
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptySun Oct 27, 2013 2:03 am

You talk to Regina Winberrl. Some people farmed their Summer Angel COins to have stacks of 3DAY Assault Steps Very Happy

Now Autumn angel Coins.

Each Cart costs 30 Autumn Angel Coins, so buy them!
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptySun Oct 27, 2013 2:13 am

O_O lol, I did't need the sleep anyways
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptySun Oct 27, 2013 4:35 am

The carts only last 3 days... not worth it.

It's not something you can keep in your build once the Shop is gone. Even if you stack up they won't last forever. Honestly I'd pick the things up that do stay with you first.
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PostSubject: Re: Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.    Just got Ouka Scarlet and Elisalotte. Don't get their mechanics.  EmptySun Oct 27, 2013 5:17 am

Shai wrote:
It's not something you can keep in your build once the Shop is gone.
they said this when angel coins were being replaced...and the brought back the cart for summer angel coins.
they said this when summer angel coins were being replaced...and they brought it back for autumn angel coins.
I'm pretty sure that the angel academy is a permanent location, and it's shop will be a feature they keep and have rotating items, but I don't except the godly assault step or near-useless slide boost to ever be removed or replaced.

Also I don't think "you shouldn't use good things because they won't always be there" is good reasoning...why not abuse it while you still can? If it ever is gone(unlikely) you can deal with that problem then, but for now you should use all the tools at your disposal.
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