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PostSubject: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyThu Aug 15, 2013 6:49 am

Hi guys I'm planning a build for my Air Raider. I'm gonna make him a good alpha striker. Please show me if I missed sth or whether this is a practical build or not. Thanks! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyThu Aug 15, 2013 6:52 am

I don't think you should be weapon tuning alpha air builds, 38 fly is the last breakpoint, although i don't think you should be aiming that high with an alpha air, also get air loop.
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyThu Aug 15, 2013 7:02 am

high air force sucks, just tune force
greinaut arms suck
you have negative walk, that sucks
40 fly sucks
honestly just do 40tec, force tunes, and then like 25-28 fly
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyFri Aug 16, 2013 11:56 am

I reviewed my build yesterday. I reconsidered optimal damage output of all weapons I slapped on it.

I can dream of this I guess Razz:
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyFri Aug 16, 2013 12:37 pm

Listen to Winty, except for the FLY part. Honestly I don't think an AAir without a means to run(FLY 38) is a smart idea, unless you have Air Loop or Accel Roll.
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyFri Aug 16, 2013 1:16 pm

greinaut arms suck
you have negative walk, that sucks
40 fly sucks
honestly just do 40tec, force tunes, and then like 25-28 fly

edit: you took off the fucking moving burst cartridge holy shit what is wrong with you


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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyFri Aug 16, 2013 1:17 pm

If you already decided to use Laz LG, why dont you pick a brick gale bs ?
Also, Greinaut AM sucks, get adone AM, -1 walk sucks, 40fly sucks, 31-34 + accel roll/air loop are ok. Get 40tec.
If you are not going to use brickgale BS, i offer you quick jump, quick land. Else pick quick land, quick boost(optional), one EIW (optional).
And Winty what does force tune mean to air alpha ._.
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyFri Aug 16, 2013 1:26 pm

Huge.Dick wrote:
And Winty what does force tune mean to air alpha ._.
what does damage mean to a build based on damage
is what you just asked me

force tune = 10cost for +1 damage
higher base force = higher benefit from 40tech

raystag HD: 5 force(x6)
at 40tech: 7force(x6) = 42 damage
force: 6force(x6)
at 40tech:9force(x6) = 54 damage

cross shooter mod: 10 force
@40tech: 15 damage
force tune: 11 force
@40tech: 16 damage

frauAM: 11 force
@40tech: 16damage
force tune: 12 force
@40tech: 18damage
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyFri Aug 16, 2013 1:33 pm

Sounds right. I will keep this as reference for my later builds :3
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptySat Aug 17, 2013 2:10 am

I feel like spoon-feeding today so, here you go http://pastebin.com/kAtC4npA
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptyFri Aug 30, 2013 3:43 pm

Thanks guys for the help. Seriously u guys rock. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 4:07 am

Alpha striker with over the top fly and 0 walk -
Either you get a BS like Tengu which let's you quick jump or get float dash.
You are going to be landing like every time you fire all your weapons...

But yeah, I think I would go with what all those other people said, just lower your fly tunes and get some more walk. Probably like 11 wlk so you at least hit the first break point...
As for Fly the breakpoints you should be going for are 25, 28, and 31.
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 4:17 am

you're wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 6:15 pm

Winty wrote:
you're wrong
Personally I find Brickgale booster works great with my 34 fly Alphastriker...
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 6:52 pm

an MB air build should never need a stovl booster. Fitting a brickgale BS on an air raider first requires putting legs with a booster hardpoint, and then the booster, which ends up being 50+ cost wasted just to get a subweapon that you should never use to begin with.

Additionally, any proper air raider build would be abusing overranging and shouldn't be in a position that you'd die if you didn't have the booster. This is what the build does. Sure, your thing can work for you, but let's be honest here: how do you know it wouldn't work even better if you used that cost for things that were actually effective instead of wasting it on a booster? maybe you're just clutching on the booster to make up for the fact that you are not playing optimally?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b95QLXnJDA0#t=3m10s
no brickgale booster
no quick jump or quick boost
no float dash
my build is capa carts, EIW, and moving burst. don't need anything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 8:22 pm

ok your build doesn't have moving burst or loop.grien arms are shit use adone.40 fly isn't even a breakpoint plus u don't even need that much.get atleast 1 str and run props abuse the fuck outta air loop.40 tec is a must and get atleast 1 wlk.try froglander legs u don't need laz legs if your not putting on a special bs not like u even need 1.
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PostSubject: Re: Air Raider build   Air Raider build EmptySat Aug 31, 2013 8:28 pm

If you want a Stovl for an Air Raider, I would suggest Vector Eagle LG instead. That way, you won't have to add a BS-slotted LG, since Vector LG Already has a backflip Quick Ascent built into the LG, and Vector LG will still fit on Air Raider.
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