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Samureece Newcomer
Posts : 17 Join date : 2012-03-05 Age : 27 Location : South Africa
| Subject: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:22 am | |
| Yeah whatevs i have rarely been on this forum but yeah. I have a muchi and i made this build - Spoiler:
?Robot Name? Amateus
?Parts? BD: Amateus BD3 : Dual Rifle Bit : Thoarla LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Amateus BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Mach Knight HD2 [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Eve Ornament : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Maril March BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Greinaut AM [High Boost] : Burst Shooter : Greinaut AM [Boost] : Handy Bazooka
?Config Check? COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
?Stats? TYPE: ? SIZE: M COST: 1275 CAPA: 1275 HP: 445 STR: 7 TEC: 37 WLK: 1 FLY: 28 TGH: 22
LEVEL: 10
?Cartridges? Capacity +70×5 Beam Guard Blast Guard Short Boost Quick Land Moving Burst
?????? Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×9 Red Chip×45 Yellow Chip×35 Stabilizer×36 Turbo Charger×50 Drum Magazine×35 Guide Circuit×28
No rouche arms, no alba head, no RT So yeah feedback, advice, etc. Katalina: - Spoiler:
?Robot Name? Katalina
?Parts? BD: Katalina BD3 : Propeller Bit : Katalina LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Mecha Jetter OMG BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Katalina HD3 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Magical Feather : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Geograsis BS2 [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Cross Raptor AM2 [High Tech] [High Tech] : Buckler : Cross Raptor AM2 [High Tech] [High Tech] : Handy Magnum Mod [High Tech] : Katalina BD3@
?Config Check? COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
?Stats? TYPE: ? SIZE: M COST: 1135 CAPA: 1135 HP: 420 STR: 1 TEC: 39 WLK: 7 FLY: 38 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
?Cartridges? Capacity +70×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Stun Regain Float Dash Quick Boost
?????? Fudara Cosmos×13 Red Chip×50 Yellow Chip×30 Stabilizer×110 Turbo Charger×27 Drum Magazine×21 Guide Circuit×90
I like the Kata build cos it doesnt need much tuning (it could be better but im too lazy to retry) Anyway the Katalina doesnt seem incredibly meta-relevant but I can still score top ten with her | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:05 am | |
| - Alpha Muchi:
【Robot Name】 Amateus
【Parts】 BD: Amateus BD3 : Dual Rifle Bit : Lazflamme LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Dugdriver BS [High Boost Beta] : Mach Knight HD2 [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Eve Ornament : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Maril March BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Beta] : Greinaut AM [High Boost Beta] : Burst Shooter [High Boost Beta] : Greinaut AM [Boost] : Handy Bazooka [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1275 CAPA: 1275 HP: 425 STR: 2 TEC: 36 WLK: 1 FLY: 31 TGH: 20
LEVEL: 10
I would have recommended dunking STR to further increase TEC, but you like your bits and probably already have some parts tuned. You might need some regrets for this build, as a result. 28 fly is fine, but if at all possible, aim for 31 fly. BG NEXT is definitely meta relevant. One of the most auto-play AIRs in the game. Build is fine if you're lazy. | |
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SuperNova.pt Adept Poster
Posts : 624 Join date : 2011-09-23 Age : 34 Location : Portugal
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:17 pm | |
| - Relict? wrote:
- BG NEXT is definitely meta relevant. One of the most auto-play AIRs in the game. Build is fine if you're lazy.
Really? I do not agree with that. | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:27 pm | |
| - Comes with a MLG that induces Steal Boost upon impact, which fucks with anything reliant on boost.
- Auto-aims so hard its like your cock is being guided into an onahole. Only input needed is slight pressure on M1.
Of course, she has various drawbacks. Weaker than MLG, can only reach 320 range and 400 speed due to being a core weapon. But, hey, it's just my opinion. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:02 pm | |
| She's not really weaker than MLG tbh, she can still break 100.
But yeah, MLG that aims for you with more ammo and steals 4 seconds of boost per hit. Pretty effortless. | |
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Samureece Newcomer
Posts : 17 Join date : 2012-03-05 Age : 27 Location : South Africa
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:15 pm | |
| OK thanks for the replies. About the Katalina, some actual aiming is required ,its not charge M1 and bam auto hit, its certainly not some AG, hitting you with that blaster when they aren't even facing you :v And besides, a lot of the airs in this meta seem to ignore the steal boost, with the AG full boost and those Harukanes and that crap. Don't even get me started on the amount of wing spamming HD seraphs there are. For the amateus i use thoarla legs cos of the looks, laz legs looks so skinny on that broad armed alpha.
Anyway could an alphastriking BG NEXT work at all? The charge up seems like it would kick alpha-ing capabilities in the balls tho' | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:23 pm | |
| It's a novel idea. I've seen some people use such a thing, but I'd imagine TGH reduction would mess with the following hits of her core, as well. | |
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XiaoFu Adept Poster
Posts : 744 Join date : 2012-09-20 Location : Randomness Thing
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:09 pm | |
| First off, don't alpha with Kata Next, like you said its horrible idea due to the charging time on her core weapon.
As for your alpha muchi.........replace burst shooter with a handy baz/Baz. Yes I know this build has been overused a hundred times but, for good reasons. You can always just spam his core if you want :V
Also honestly Idk if Ama Muchi even needed that thoarla leg in the first place. You can always replace that with something else but its up to you. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:16 pm | |
| If you're going to use a leg with a BS slot use Laz LG. Smaller, more relevant stats, lower cost.
Generally you want Frog/Build Arm/Tarantulic/Elme.S LG for any S/M-size alpha build though, to keep cost on non-weapon parts at a minimum for tuning. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:50 pm | |
| - Samureece wrote:
- OK thanks for the replies.
About the Katalina, some actual aiming is required ,its not charge M1 and bam auto hit, its certainly not some AG, hitting you with that blaster when they aren't even facing you :v Katanext has initone-levels of aim assist. It doesn't have homing, but it will always aim at a target when it fires, even if you aren't. It has been known autoaim onto enemies that you are not actually locked on to in order to hit them. | |
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Tuskin Do not charge RT
Posts : 2811 Join date : 2011-01-25
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Adius Regular Poster
Posts : 318 Join date : 2011-02-17 Age : 35 Location : deep inside cbff
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:40 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- She's not really weaker than MLG tbh, she can still break 100.
But yeah, MLG that aims for you with more ammo and steals 4 seconds of boost per hit. Pretty effortless. no she cant... i have a 39 tec one maybe she can break a 100 if the other person is using a 1 or 2 tgh land and i hit it from behind she is low dps and u cant even tune her main weapon for extra speed i made one awhile back thinking she will be as op as MLG ... but tbh... 3s MLG has more capabilities just because you can choose all different types of tunes depending on your playstyle you can build her if you want to use in arena for fun - Spoiler:
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:57 pm | |
| - Adius wrote:
- Suguri wrote:
- She's not really weaker than MLG tbh, she can still break 100.
But yeah, MLG that aims for you with more ammo and steals 4 seconds of boost per hit. Pretty effortless. no she cant... i have a 39 tec one
maybe she can break a 100 if the other person is using a 1 or 2 tgh land and i hit it from behind
she is low dps and u cant even tune her main weapon for extra speed
i made one awhile back thinking she will be as op as MLG ... but tbh... 3s MLG has more capabilities just because you can choose all different types of tunes depending on your playstyle
you can build her if you want to use in arena for fun
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- 9TGH:
- 40TGH:
Your move. | |
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Adius Regular Poster
Posts : 318 Join date : 2011-02-17 Age : 35 Location : deep inside cbff
| Subject: Re: Alpha Muchi and Kata BG NEXT Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:00 am | |
| "your move" ... why does everyone on this forum have to sound so confrontational ... what... did you think i was challenging your words or something? get over yourself... ok so im wrong about her dealing low dmg on a high tgh land... deal with it
lol if you want to play her in arena then be my guess ... personally i still think dealing over 100 damage is not very likely... ive had her since she first came out and tuned her awhile back... ive used her on and off but i find she isnt to my liking... like i said b4 i prefer the actual MLG weapon due to its tuning capabilities
without being able to tune the main weapon... you're stuck with a relatively low speed lightning gun... she isn't useless or anything but would i personally recommend tuning her and lvling her up just to use her main weapon (this is in relation to the OP's build/blueprint from cosmic calc)? ... yes if you want to mess around in arena ... no if you're actually trying to build something competitive
as a bot overall she doesn't fit my playing style and im basing my recommendations on that... if you feel that she is indeed a competitive bot and i have not explored her enough and should not be undermining her potential then feel free to add your opinion to the discussion | |
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