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heerokosmos Newcomer
Posts : 10 Join date : 2012-09-02
| Subject: Rate my Momiji (Blitz) Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:41 pm | |
| Yes I know most Momiji blitz die like a retard and cant finish of the prey but i really like the papapapapapa so i need some opinion and im keeping ninja run and stealth feel free to change anything but pls do give the reason for it - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Momiji
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Lance Bit(default) : Momiji LG [Great Capacity] [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] : Momiji HD [High Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha] : Silver Headphones [High Tech Alpha] : Kanzashi Shuriken : Momiji BS [High Run Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Momiji AM [Gladiator] [Gladiator] [Gladiator] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Momiji AM2 [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Range Alpha] [Great Supply] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1450 CAPA: 1450 HP: 454 STR: 9 TEC: 19 WLK: 39 FLY: 1 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stealth System Zero Cartridge×3 Ninja Run
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| | | Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Rate my Momiji (Blitz) Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:15 pm | |
| If this is a serious topic it's bad, if this is supposed to be a troll thread it's even worse. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Ninja~
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Lance Bit(default) : Momiji LG [Great Capacity] [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] : Momiji HD [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Sunflower [High Run Alpha] : Butterfly Effect : Momiji BS [Run] [Run] [Run] : Momiji AM [Slow] : Busted Stungun [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Momiji AM2 [Run] [Tough] : Busted Stungun [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1305 CAPA: 1305 HP: 426 STR: 11 TEC: 27 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×4 Sword Guard Blast Guard Stun Regain Zero Cartridge×3 Ninja Run
【Materials】 Hidora Cosmos×105 Fudara Cosmos×50 Midoro Cosmos×60 Yoguru Cosmos×30 Fourda Cosmos×1 Red Chip×45 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×75 Rainbow Chip×79 Power Amp×600 Stabilizer×42 Engine Shaft×656 Brake Damper×5 Physical Stone×100 Rapid Crystal×627 Guide Circuit×30 Snail Liquid×61 Hard Plate×100 Hulk Meteorite×200 Screw Bolts×300 Steel Wheel×300 Miracle Ammonite×140 Shining Feather×140
I'm almost sure somebody could make a better one. Stealth system sucks simply because everybody and their mother uses Broad Radar these days (which will nullify the effect of Stealth System). Afaik 39 WLK is 3 points over the last Break point. If you can't reach 40WLK either just save the capa. | |
| | | Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Rate my Momiji (Blitz) Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:43 pm | |
| - heerokosmos wrote:
- Yes I know most Momiji blitz die like a retard and cant finish of the prey but i really like the papapapapapa so i need some opinion
and im keeping ninja run and stealth feel free to change anything but pls do give the reason for it
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Momiji
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Lance Bit(default) : Momiji LG [Great Capacity] [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] : Momiji HD [High Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha] : Silver Headphones [High Tech Alpha] : Kanzashi Shuriken : Momiji BS [High Run Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Momiji AM [Gladiator] [Gladiator] [Gladiator] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Momiji AM2 [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Range Alpha] [Great Supply] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1450 CAPA: 1450 HP: 454 STR: 9 TEC: 19 WLK: 39 FLY: 1 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stealth System Zero Cartridge×3 Ninja Run
She probably "can't finish her prey" because of that abysmal 19 tec. Ninja Run does not sync well with Wind path, as it does to a degree with Fire path. Wind Momiji has to continuously shoot, and will not benefit from Ninja Run for a large portion of her life, which is why I feel like she benefits from other carts much more. Both builds posted so far look fairly attrocious. While Stealth System in tandem with Ninja Run on a Flare path Momiji works very well, as the target (unless it has broad radar) has no real way of seeing you on radar and can only rely on the autoaim of their gun to hit you, as well as you being invisible for the charge and only momentarily visible for the shot, Blitz path's clip shot is a lot longer than Flare, and makes Ninja Run + Stealth System somewhat less desirable, as you become very visible once you start shooting. Either way though, I do not believe Momiji needs slow, as she has a very insane combo already, and -her main weapon already deals a debuff-. Any slow you procc with her melee will be overriden instantly by your main weapon shot. And to top that off, I would not suggest even -attempting- to melee any target with a competent melee of their own, as Momiji is easily out prioritized and then smashed to peices. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Momiji
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Slayer Bit : Momiji LG [Capacity] [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] : Momiji HD [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Black Hair Scarf [Ranger] : Butterfly Effect : Momiji BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Momiji AM [Ranger] [Tech] [Ranger] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta] [High Run Alpha] : Momiji AM2 [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha] [Rapid] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1390 CAPA: 1390 HP: 499 STR: 12 TEC: 28 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stun Regain Broad Radar Zero Cartridge×3
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×12 Midoro Cosmos×6 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×45 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×20 Green Chip×95 Rainbow Chip×30 Power Amp×200 Stabilizer×109 Engine Shaft×63 Physical Stone×250 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×22 Guide Circuit×31 Heat Ash×15 Snail Liquid×49 Hard Plate×100 Screw Bolts×260 Steel Wheel×36 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20 Handa Cosmos×2
Momiji won't really be dealing massive damage with her 9 force main weapon, but it does eventually add up. Momiji shouldn't be prioritizing melee, but it is definately advantegous to melee things that cannot fight back, such as slower arts, airs who are landing, etc. You should only melee if given a good opportunity, in other words. I should also point out that Momiji's third Zero cart, the counter, can be dropped (and the slayer bit changed to a sword bit) to pick up another 15 cost cart such as Sway, an interesting choice for her, or a guard perhaps, or even Ninja Run if you insist. I would also like to point out that Crimson Veil -isnt- a neccesity, so if you would rather, use Clearance instead to free up 20 cost, letting you fit possibly more HP, or something such as an Anti Homing Bit. | |
| | | heerokosmos Newcomer
Posts : 10 Join date : 2012-09-02
| Subject: Re: Rate my Momiji (Blitz) Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:07 am | |
| - Trill wrote:
- heerokosmos wrote:
- Yes I know most Momiji blitz die like a retard and cant finish of the prey but i really like the papapapapapa so i need some opinion
and im keeping ninja run and stealth feel free to change anything but pls do give the reason for it
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Momiji
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Lance Bit(default) : Momiji LG [Great Capacity] [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] : Momiji HD [High Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Alpha] : Silver Headphones [High Tech Alpha] : Kanzashi Shuriken : Momiji BS [High Run Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Momiji AM [Gladiator] [Gladiator] [Gladiator] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Momiji AM2 [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Range Alpha] [Great Supply] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1450 CAPA: 1450 HP: 454 STR: 9 TEC: 19 WLK: 39 FLY: 1 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stealth System Zero Cartridge×3 Ninja Run
She probably "can't finish her prey" because of that abysmal 19 tec. Ninja Run does not sync well with Wind path, as it does to a degree with Fire path. Wind Momiji has to continuously shoot, and will not benefit from Ninja Run for a large portion of her life, which is why I feel like she benefits from other carts much more.
Both builds posted so far look fairly attrocious.
While Stealth System in tandem with Ninja Run on a Flare path Momiji works very well, as the target (unless it has broad radar) has no real way of seeing you on radar and can only rely on the autoaim of their gun to hit you, as well as you being invisible for the charge and only momentarily visible for the shot, Blitz path's clip shot is a lot longer than Flare, and makes Ninja Run + Stealth System somewhat less desirable, as you become very visible once you start shooting.
Either way though, I do not believe Momiji needs slow, as she has a very insane combo already, and -her main weapon already deals a debuff-. Any slow you procc with her melee will be overriden instantly by your main weapon shot. And to top that off, I would not suggest even -attempting- to melee any target with a competent melee of their own, as Momiji is easily out prioritized and then smashed to peices.
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Momiji
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Slayer Bit : Momiji LG [Capacity] [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] : Momiji HD [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Black Hair Scarf [Ranger] : Butterfly Effect : Momiji BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Momiji AM [Ranger] [Tech] [Ranger] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta] [High Run Alpha] : Momiji AM2 [Force] [Great Rapid Alpha] [Rapid] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1390 CAPA: 1390 HP: 499 STR: 12 TEC: 28 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stun Regain Broad Radar Zero Cartridge×3
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×12 Midoro Cosmos×6 Ones Cosmos×2 Threede Cosmos×1 Red Chip×45 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×20 Green Chip×95 Rainbow Chip×30 Power Amp×200 Stabilizer×109 Engine Shaft×63 Physical Stone×250 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×22 Guide Circuit×31 Heat Ash×15 Snail Liquid×49 Hard Plate×100 Screw Bolts×260 Steel Wheel×36 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20 Handa Cosmos×2
Momiji won't really be dealing massive damage with her 9 force main weapon, but it does eventually add up. Momiji shouldn't be prioritizing melee, but it is definately advantegous to melee things that cannot fight back, such as slower arts, airs who are landing, etc. You should only melee if given a good opportunity, in other words.
I should also point out that Momiji's third Zero cart, the counter, can be dropped (and the slayer bit changed to a sword bit) to pick up another 15 cost cart such as Sway, an interesting choice for her, or a guard perhaps, or even Ninja Run if you insist.
I would also like to point out that Crimson Veil -isnt- a neccesity, so if you would rather, use Clearance instead to free up 20 cost, letting you fit possibly more HP, or something such as an Anti Homing Bit. Thanx Trill been really help-full | |
| | | resireth Master Poster
Posts : 2129 Join date : 2011-10-08 Age : 80
| Subject: Re: Rate my Momiji (Blitz) Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:44 am | |
| - zerocl wrote:
- I just realized that 40 wlk is the final breakpoint for Ninja Run
gay - Something like this?:
【Robot Name】 Momiji
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Anti Homing Bit : Momiji LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [High Tech Alpha] : Momiji HD [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Aquila Gear [High Tech Alpha] : Kanzashi Shuriken : Momiji BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Momiji AM [High Rapid Beta] [Rapid] [Rapid] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Momiji AM2 [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1335 CAPA: 1335 HP: 454 STR: 8 TEC: 30 WLK: 40 FLY: 1 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Sway Stealth System Zero Cartridge×2 Ninja Run
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×17 Ones Cosmos×2 Twode Cosmos×1 Red Chip×90 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×110 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×81 Engine Shaft×72 Rapid Crystal×119 Guide Circuit×63 Snail Liquid×56 Hulk Meteorite×100 Handa Cosmos×2
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| | | heerokosmos Newcomer
Posts : 10 Join date : 2012-09-02
| Subject: Re: Rate my Momiji (Blitz) Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:50 pm | |
| - resireth wrote:
- zerocl wrote:
- I just realized that 40 wlk is the final breakpoint for Ninja Run
gay
- Something like this?:
【Robot Name】 Momiji
【Parts】 BD: Momiji BD (Blitz) : Anti Homing Bit : Momiji LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [High Tech Alpha] : Momiji HD [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Aquila Gear [High Tech Alpha] : Kanzashi Shuriken : Momiji BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Momiji AM [High Rapid Beta] [Rapid] [Rapid] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Momiji AM2 [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1335 CAPA: 1335 HP: 454 STR: 8 TEC: 30 WLK: 40 FLY: 1 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Sway Stealth System Zero Cartridge×2 Ninja Run
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×17 Ones Cosmos×2 Twode Cosmos×1 Red Chip×90 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×110 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×81 Engine Shaft×72 Rapid Crystal×119 Guide Circuit×63 Snail Liquid×56 Hulk Meteorite×100 Handa Cosmos×2
would she benefit in CV + stun regain? or clearance would still be better? using her i have more problem with air than with land actually lands don't even get to touch her. oh and does the gladiator make any difference? thinking of just giving more hits than forcing to get a high tech. | |
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