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PostSubject: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 12:06 am

Putting this up since everyone's gonna be running this or grinding haku with people who have Lily Eve.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 12:39 am

Save your shield charges for the final boss. Her grabbity balls will kill you in one shot if you don't.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 12:44 am

My experiences using EVE in new mission (and assumptions)

the BD sub is sacrifice effect on her arm that has the gun on it... in mission wont have any use at all since she has that gun only..

the AM MAIN is a beam cannon type weapon that pierces through objects.. and charges as you maintain lock up from lvl 1-2 with no effect from the HD SUB (explained next) and 2-3 with the HD effect on

HD gives a crimson veil like effect on lily rain eve, im not 100% sure it stops stun.. but it seems like it.. but it does for sure power up that gun arm of hers... has very short time on it though compared to crimson veil

the BS/Back SUB puts up a small short time shield in front and is limited on charges....

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The enemy boss harpy girl will and can and will use big black blast on instant death (she usually stands on a pillar and charges a ball of energy.. done twice half way to the final fight.. and done sometimes during final fight) if you do not shield it with the shield SUB.. you game over.. instantly

as for the regular enemies, later on you fight ones that just run around alot... no real advice for enemys other then they like to spawn lined up for your awesome new beam cannon piercing death weapon to hit them and blow them all up...
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 12:47 am

Okay, I actually failed my first run through this.

First off, Eve has 2 primaries: Psygun funnels, and the cannon.
She also has 3 secondaries: one body weapon that I have no clue how it works, psygun funnel shield, and head weapon that increases its charge rate.

Word of warning. DO NOT waste psygun shielding before your second duel with the Harpy. You MUST have it, or you will get insta-killed.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 1:13 am

UPDATE.. you actually need to save about... 5 shields total just for the harpy boss

also the shield has a psygun weapon that i found.. that is NOT usable while shield is deploied (obviously)

The final fight (on hard) has 3 basic modes..

1st she flys around shooting her dark shots everywhere.. then trys to slash you alot and repeats..

2nd she hops to a pillar to charge her ball of death... when you see a red ring around her during charge.. pop the shield and fire away at her with the EVE cannon...

3rd she will fire a gravity ball and power up her sword and go to slash you.. dodge her AND the gravity ball (which cant be shielded but will fade after awhile) and finish her off...

4th (just to make this point across) SHE IS NOT CALLED EIHWAZ.. its the name of that anime vid for christs sake not the fawking bosses name.... her name according to translators is “Kiss rill”
Translators suck though so idk....

Sorry just stressed atm so bear with me...

EDIT : Beat on hard mode with 1335 score first run... I'll improve that score later...


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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 1:30 am

Dune wrote:
UPDATE.. you actually need to save about... 5 shields total just for the harpy boss

also the shield has a psygun weapon that i found.. that is NOT usable while shield is deploied (obviously)

The final fight (on hard) has 3 basic modes..

1st she flys around shooting her dark shots everywhere.. then trys to slash you alot and repeats..

2nd she hops to a pillar to charge her ball of death... when you see a red ring around her during charge.. pop the shield and fire away at her with the EVE cannon...

3rd she will fire a gravity ball and power up her sword and go to slash you.. dodge her AND the gravity ball (which cant be shielded but will fade after awhile) and finish her off...

4th (just to make this point across) SHE IS NOT CALLED EIHWAZ.. its the name of that anime vid for christs sake not the fawking bosses name.... her name according to translators is “Kiss rill”
Translators suck though so idk....

Sorry just stressed atm so bear with me...

EDIT : Beat on hard mode with 1335 score first run... I'll improve that score later...

just 2 more points right ? xD


sigh. even the biggest laser is not big enough Sad


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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 1:32 am

Actually, you need at least a score of 1800
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 1:47 am

the trick is firing the cannon enough times during the second grunt rush spawns to get the fast runners, IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 1:54 am

HashiriyaR32 wrote:
Actually, you need at least a score of 1800

1800 for what ?
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 2:00 am

Segawa wrote:
HashiriyaR32 wrote:
Actually, you need at least a score of 1800

1800 for what ?

For the score challenge event.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 2:41 am

jesus, i cant catch those fast little shits (trash mobs in the big area) spent like 5 mins trying to chase them
I also encountered a bug where she disappears after the initial fight....but then still manages to slash me. I can hear the sounds of her slashing even tho no one is there and i take damage
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 2:54 am

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jesus, i cant catch those fast little shits (trash mobs in the big area) spent like 5 mins trying to chase them
I also encountered a bug where she disappears after the initial fight....but then still manages to slash me. I can hear the sounds of her slashing even tho no one is there and i take damage

That's to penalize players who think it's safe to idle in the initial fight are and not move on.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 3:04 am

I think the mission is freaking terrible.

Don't get me wrong, the boss-fight parts are quite fun and I love the new Lily. But the trash mobs just ruin the whole thing. Unlike Ouka, the new Lily does not deal with trash well as she doesn't have a very fast rate of fire with her main gun and the psygun's homing is too weak for the faster trash. You spend ages chasing down the fast little buggers because half the time, the auto target screws up when they spawn - constantly retargetting between the mobs while they are in the row - causing the charges to reset and you to shoot prematurely (haha) resulting in nothing being killed.
AND THEN OFF THEY GO and you have to chase down every single last one...some of them even running really far back into the map or hiding in the cave meaning that when you kill them and the next batch spawns, you are nowhere near enough to shoot them while they are in a row.

tl;dr New Lily and Boss rocks, Trash mobs suck. Alot
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 4:02 am

Found out a couple of things.

Shooting stuff wont earn you points. Breaking them will. So it means u have to end it fast and end it with high hp if ur aiming for 1800.

Secondly. At the middle where the "boss" shoots 2 of the 1 hit KO thing. You have to use sheild for the first one.

Then jsut stand at where u used ur first sheild and do nothing. The second one wont hit you Smile (well it will but 0 dmg cos the boss disapear cutscene)


rofl on one of the trys.


STAGE CLEAR. Then the boss (who ran away ) invis slash me and i died. LOL



To help make things fast. Heres a small guide of rushing.

First fight. Just shoot it dead ASAP. Use the 6 homing laser (ill call it wing lasers from now. Dont kno the name) and the laser cannon. Learn which distance is best for both to hit.

After first fight before second encounter with harpie. : use laser cannon lv 1 to take out small ones. Take out the shooting ones first. The bigger one use laser cannon level 2. Those guys using musket are a pain. Use some sheild against them (not all. 1 or 2 is enough )

Second encounter with harpie: Do w/e u want. Nothing to shoot here >_>. But you can save a sheild by standing at the first sheild using area while the harpie uses the second attack. The harpie will disapear and damage is nullified due to cutscene.

After second encounter before boss : Just before monster spawn use the head part (E.V.E charge i think) So that ur laser cannon is spammable at level 2. Remember where all the runners spawn ?

SPAM FIRE! (1 shot should be enough. Try and position urself to kill as many before they start running) Dont use too many head charge. Then shoot the rest down normally or quickly i mean.

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Head Part. Wing Lasers. Laser cannon. DIVINE BUSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Just dont forget to sheild urself or run away from his slashes.


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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 4:35 am

Hyoka wrote:
Segawa wrote:
HashiriyaR32 wrote:
Actually, you need at least a score of 1800

1800 for what ?

For the score challenge event.


btw what do you get ?
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 5:31 am

Not sure what you get yet.. but my guesses are that its either a weak version of lily's EVE cannon (prolly only lvl 1 fire usable or some weak stuff but still wouldnt be bad)

Or... hopefully.. the boss as a usable bot! Doubt it though...
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 6:35 am

Note to self: keep the secondary as head shield!
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 6:39 am

Andaros wrote:
Note to self: keep the secondary as head shield!

never broke my head.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 6:42 am

seriously neither did I, I just took it our of secondary, oh and it didn't stop her charge shot for me, must be a bug, had Harpy girl's weapons firing at me in the first area once she was gone too. . . can any Japanese speakers report that? As supporting a ticket for CBJP on the CBEN website might not do much good.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 6:49 am

BTW, shield didn't work, got killed re-spawned and then game-overed, freaking weird, will try again and try to get the timing right could have glitched the effect lasting longer than it should have. This time I used the right secondary for the shield lol.

I SO want Lily Promo even with the errors I have, probably my own fault anyway. She's not OP, but she damn well rocks!
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 6:59 am

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BTW, shield didn't work, got killed re-spawned and then game-overed, freaking weird, will try again and try to get the timing right could have glitched the effect lasting longer than it should have. This time I used the right secondary for the shield lol.

I SO want Lily Promo even with the errors I have, probably my own fault anyway. She's not OP, but she damn well rocks!


Yup the Lily Eve is cool. Would be useful once she gets Sniper sight and the player masters her.


Yes the harpy still shoots you even after she disapears. Note at the top (ENEMY x ????). It doesnt go down. The harpy will still be there and is shootable (your bullets wont go trough) but no damage is noted. Also another bug where the first harpy stops moving completely after a while. Not that she moves alot though xD


The sheild works. You just need the right timing. Its better not to bother shooting the boss when she charges that as you would be nearer to um.... instant death.

As for what "set up" for your sub.

let the sub be wings so that E is the head. the body part is useless there anyway.



(and im going to laugh if anyone thinks ouka HARD is harder than Eve HARD lol. Ouka hard is easy atcually ><)
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 7:08 am

Lily Rain EVE's stats

850/940 Cost
340 HP
7 STR
21 TEC
12 WLK
20 FLY
8 TGH
WB: Autogun

BD Internal summons the Entropic Vector Energizer(E.V.E.) cannon to her right arm
HD Internal allows Charge Plus
BS has primary Psyguns and secondary Barrier

Cartridges:
6x Capacity Up +60

2x Internal Upgrade

Shell Guard
Blast Guard
Beam Guard

Boost Run
Short Boost
Float Dash

Boost Tune
Sniper Sight

Moving Burst
Quick Land

Broad Radar
Stealth System
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 7:10 am

Segawa wrote:
Andaros wrote:
BTW, shield didn't work, got killed re-spawned and then game-overed, freaking weird, will try again and try to get the timing right could have glitched the effect lasting longer than it should have. This time I used the right secondary for the shield lol.

I SO want Lily Promo even with the errors I have, probably my own fault anyway. She's not OP, but she damn well rocks!


Yup the Lily Eve is cool. Would be useful once she gets Sniper sight and the player masters her.


Yes the harpy still shoots you even after she disapears. Note at the top (ENEMY x ????). It doesnt go down. The harpy will still be there and is shootable (your bullets wont go trough) but no damage is noted. Also another bug where the first harpy stops moving completely after a while. Not that she moves alot though xD


The sheild works. You just need the right timing. Its better not to bother shooting the boss when she charges that as you would be nearer to um.... instant death.

As for what "set up" for your sub.

let the sub be wings so that E is the head. the body part is useless there anyway.



(and im going to laugh if anyone thinks ouka HARD is harder than Eve HARD lol. Ouka hard is easy atcually ><)

I had damage noted each and every time Sad also, the power shot went right through my visibly up shield.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 7:21 am

Andaros wrote:
Segawa wrote:
Andaros wrote:
BTW, shield didn't work, got killed re-spawned and then game-overed, freaking weird, will try again and try to get the timing right could have glitched the effect lasting longer than it should have. This time I used the right secondary for the shield lol.

I SO want Lily Promo even with the errors I have, probably my own fault anyway. She's not OP, but she damn well rocks!


Yup the Lily Eve is cool. Would be useful once she gets Sniper sight and the player masters her.


Yes the harpy still shoots you even after she disapears. Note at the top (ENEMY x ????). It doesnt go down. The harpy will still be there and is shootable (your bullets wont go trough) but no damage is noted. Also another bug where the first harpy stops moving completely after a while. Not that she moves alot though xD


The sheild works. You just need the right timing. Its better not to bother shooting the boss when she charges that as you would be nearer to um.... instant death.

As for what "set up" for your sub.

let the sub be wings so that E is the head. the body part is useless there anyway.



(and im going to laugh if anyone thinks ouka HARD is harder than Eve HARD lol. Ouka hard is easy atcually ><)

I had damage noted each and every time Sad also, the power shot went right through my visibly up shield.


The timing is off. Please do not you need to consider lag into it as well. I shot a lv 3 laser on one of the runners and missed (over 1 cm on the monitor. That is a clear cut miss.) but he died lol

or if you are too near.
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PostSubject: Re: Lily Mission advice thread   Lily Mission advice thread EmptyThu Nov 18, 2010 7:29 am

NovaZero wrote:
Lily Rain EVE's stats

850/940 Cost
340 HP
7 STR
21 TEC
12 WLK
20 FLY
8 TGH
WB: Autogun

BD Internal summons the Entropic Vector Energizer(E.V.E.) cannon to her right arm
HD Internal allows Charge Plus
BS has primary Psyguns and secondary Barrier

Cartridges:
6x Capacity Up +60

2x Internal Upgrade

Shell Guard
Blast Guard
Beam Guard

Boost Run
Short Boost
Float Dash

Boost Tune
Sniper Sight

Moving Burst
Quick Land

Broad Radar
Stealth System

whats boost tune ? (Boost run, running using booster. moves faster) (Short boost. Hops) (Float dash flying close to the ground)
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