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PostSubject: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 1:47 pm

I want to propose a new room for the game. So I want to hear your opinions about this. I will send a similar proposition to Cyberstep as well, including a link to this topic..

It is a new type of room. Of course, not really a multiplayer-room. It's kind of a training stage. With the simple exception, that you can choose ALL existing bots from the game! (not customizible tough)

Why that? Its purpose is that player can know how bots work which they dont have.
For example, at the moment, when there is Lily Rain EVE in Garapon, but a player is not sure to roll for her because the player dont know whether EVE fits his/her playstyle, the player simply does EVE Mission to find out how she works.

BUT this is NOT possible for all other bots except the Bikini Girls and Ouka and Elisa and Melfi. So what to do that player can test other bots before buying/rolling them? Implementing a training-stage room where ALL cores are avaiable!

This can look like this in the stage-selection screen:

Stage Selection Image

After you clicked the TESTING-ARENA, the Commando-Selection Screen will open.
This may look like this: (In my example very ugly tough xD)

Character Selection Image

Then you can select your Commando from all existing bots.

Furthermore, when clicking on "Show Details" in your choosen commando, you can level up your bot up to lv 10 and also test all catridges on your bot too. In this screen also you can equip your Robots with all existing weapons as well, and change all changable parts with all existing parts.

TuneUps however may not be added.

So again: why this idea? For example new zeros coming out this week. They now appear in Garapon. But you can't decide whether you want em. You wanna test em first. So you just open the Testing Arena room, choose them here and test them there. Afterwards you know how they and their catridges work and you can now better decide whether to roll for em or not! ^^

And now, what's your opinion about?
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 2:08 pm

This will never happen. Why? 'Cause it will make Cyberstep lose money.

If players can test the robots before buying them, and end up not liking them, they won't roll for them. In other words, not buy RT for that robot.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 2:19 pm

Shai wrote:
This will never happen. Why? 'Cause it will make Cyberstep lose money.

If players can test the robots before buying them, and end up not liking them, they won't roll for them. In other words, not buy RT for that robot.
It could also work the opposite way, where players love it and throw shitton of money at it.
Besides, something like that already exists in CBKR, and I think TW and JP. It's LAN mode.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 2:29 pm

Why make that, when they could make the game better? :/
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 2:29 pm

This would make the game better. With the sheer amount of content in the game it's inane that you can't test any of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 2:34 pm

@Wiesel

Guys in KR, TW and JP can choose bots they dont have in LAN mode? O_O
awesome...
and yeah.


thanks for your opinions! I hope there will be more. :3
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 3:39 pm

That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
Shai wrote:
This will never happen. Why? 'Cause it will make Cyberstep lose money.

If players can test the robots before buying them, and end up not liking them, they won't roll for them. In other words, not buy RT for that robot.
It could also work the opposite way, where players love it and throw shitton of money at it.
Besides, something like that already exists in CBKR, and I think TW and JP. It's LAN mode.

I gotta give you a true for this. But I still think it will give them a money loss. They rather have players complain about their robots after they've spend money for it in stead of not spending money for it coz they know they don't like it.

CS wants them to keep rolling without any thought or idea of how the robot is.

Who cares if you end up disliking the robot? CS got your money. :L
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 3:57 pm

Enjoy your room of Eris/Sylvia.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 4:17 pm

reVelske wrote:
Enjoy your room of Eris/Sylvia.

in a 1 player match vs bots?
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 4:20 pm

Hm misread, skimmed through and saw multiplayer room.

I think I should stop posting, ultraderp lately.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 4:40 pm

have customizations too.
So i can finally try out all the bots I plan.
Would also make testing unorthodox builds feasible.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 4:42 pm

I actually like this idea. I' psaming alt accs because we lack this feature D:
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 5:01 pm

I'd say take this one step further and create a 'test' server...much like during how beta testing worked, and have EVERYTHING available via uc through a variety of garas...every bot would get a great chance to be tested and maybe a few un-heard ofs would shine through...and other issues could be squashed before making it to live....

*thumbs up*
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 5:09 pm

great in theory. would be horrible in practice.

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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 5:16 pm

-Business wrote:
great in theory. would be horrible in practice.

Elaborate.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 6:11 pm

CapeMike wrote:
I'd say take this one step further and create a 'test' server...much like during how beta testing worked, and have EVERYTHING available via uc through a variety of garas...every bot would get a great chance to be tested and maybe a few un-heard ofs would shine through...and other issues could be squashed before making it to live....

*thumbs up*

Aria (Or someone else?) tried to do this, but something happened (I guess CS wasnt very... happy about her plans?) so she had to give up those plans.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 6:23 pm

I guess they could make it more simple and just add some kind of magical 'test' button with each Gara robot. So people can try out the robots before they decide to roll in the Gara.

It would just be a small practice room where they can see what their skills are like.


But then again, never gonna happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 6:32 pm

Silvershine wrote:
CapeMike wrote:
I'd say take this one step further and create a 'test' server...much like during how beta testing worked, and have EVERYTHING available via uc through a variety of garas...every bot would get a great chance to be tested and maybe a few un-heard ofs would shine through...and other issues could be squashed before making it to live....

*thumbs up*

Aria (Or someone else?) tried to do this, but something happened (I guess CS wasnt very... happy about her plans?) so she had to give up those plans.


do you know anything else?
i remember reading about this when i was much newer to the game but i didn't keep track of it.
but i did know that the person might have gotten in trouble since they were basically keeping records of what they were doing in community, right?

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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 6:33 pm

Diabolical wrote:
-Business wrote:
great in theory. would be horrible in practice.

Elaborate.


hu cube is a pretty good example of what people will do to get a certain bot....

people get what they want = dont pay = bad for business.

and not talkin bout me.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 7:20 pm

I don't really see why to waste time and money developing such, when there is so much that could be done to make the game actually better, and that probably required less effort.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 7:30 pm

-Business wrote:
Diabolical wrote:
-Business wrote:
great in theory. would be horrible in practice.

Elaborate.


hu cube is a pretty good example of what people will do to get a certain bot....

people get what they want = dont pay = bad for business.

and not talkin bout me.

ok, what?
doesn't seem to me that you elaborated at all.
are you saying that with this testing arena, people won't buy the bots because they've played the bot already?
or, what?




but aside that.
i do like this.
i wouldn't mind being able to play all of the bots.
i will understand more conversations about bot parts and how the bots work in general.
and SOME people won't be able to say things about a weapons/bot without knowing for sure since they couldn't play one themselves.
would actually make things a lot easier on everyone.





God is a Cat Girl wrote:
I don't really see why to waste time and money developing such, when there is so much that could be done to make the game actually better, and that probably required less effort.

of course there's different things to work on.
this is just an idea.
don't have to shut it down like that, man.

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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 7:57 pm

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of course there's different things to work on.
this is just an idea.
don't have to shut it down like that, man.

I do have to shut it down when there's more important things to do.

It's all about setting the priorities right. As much I'd like to test certain bots that I don't have, I see balancing (not only bots but the game as a whole, which means a bunch of changes), fixing certain issues and change and add new/old things to current sections of the game (shop, missions, quest, arena drops) as more important things to do, because they are things that will truly change the game.

A test arena? It won't make the game better, it will simply give people the illusion of being happy over a feature that doesn't actually make the game better.

A test button on the gara/shop for each bot probably wouldn't be that bad, but still, there's bigger issues.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 8:12 pm

-Business wrote:
Diabolical wrote:
-Business wrote:
great in theory. would be horrible in practice.

Elaborate.


hu cube is a pretty good example of what people will do to get a certain bot....

people get what they want = dont pay = bad for business.

and not talkin bout me.

True, seeing people spamming alts to get moebots.
i.e. I'll just spam alts to get moebots and not roll

in this sense, people will just try and try and not even think about spending for it at all (well a majority at the very least, we all know only a handful of people seriously dropping tons)
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 8:45 pm

Your room proposition is redundant.
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PostSubject: Re: Room Proposition: Testing Arena   Room Proposition: Testing Arena EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 9:27 pm

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I do have to shut it down when there's more important things to do.

It's all about setting the priorities right. As much I'd like to test certain bots that I don't have, I see balancing (not only bots but the game as a whole, which means a bunch of changes), fixing certain issues and change and add new/old things to current sections of the game (shop, missions, quest, arena drops) as more important things to do, because they are things that will truly change the game.

A test arena? It won't make the game better, it will simply give people the illusion of being happy over a feature that doesn't actually make the game better.

A test button on the gara/shop for each bot probably wouldn't be that bad, but still, there's bigger issues.

here ya go.
instead of bringing up known changes we need.
i fixed it so that you're actually talking about the topic.



LXE wrote:
Your room proposition is redundant.

you don't feel like trying to explain why?

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