Ideal Setup for Scaregant Burai

Regular Poster Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35

I just got this bot today, and I was wondering what setup should I use?

Subject: Re: Ideal Setup for Scaregant Burai Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:33 pm

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/search?mode=searchbox&search_keywords=burai&show_results=topics

Regular Poster Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35

I tried looking their thread, but it confuses me on what kind of build should I make.

Ace Poster Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28

Think it out for yourself

Melee LND = fast moving + Evasion cart + high STR + C. Veil, unless you want to stick with Gatling hopping

Ace Poster Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26

tehprognoob wrote:: Think it out for yourself

Melee LND = fast moving + Evasion cart + high STR + C. Veil, unless you want to stick with Gatling hopping

right back at you: its not a S-Land your talking about, its a fucking burai - for the kind of melee build you suggested other RT L-Lands can do it better

Ace Poster Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28

Yellowtier, hop, 40 STR C. Veil

Spoiler:

dropped some STR fot 27 TGH 509 HP:

Subject: Re: Ideal Setup for Scaregant Burai Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:13 pm

I used to tell people 40tgh but I don't know if I like that train of thought anymore. All Scaregants have pretty horrid capa though, it's tough to do much with them. CV, weapon tunes, and HP are probably what matter most.

Ace Poster Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26

Suguri wrote:: I used to tell people 40tgh but I don't know if I like that train of thought anymore. All Scaregants have pretty horrid capa though, it's tough to do much with them. CV, weapon tunes, and HP are probably what matter most.

i dont think scaregant needs 40 tough, 30 is easily achievable on the series and should siffice. combined with his innate damage avoiding mechanics pure HP should work much better than toughness anyways

burai also opens the option to use the melee simply for slowing purposes due to his early bombthrow in the combo and the knockback at the third swing but im pretty sure that people wont understand what im saying here since they failed doing so in the heavy chrotacs thread - and chrotacs is much more obvious for that example >.>

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913

Aurum_Sol wrote:

Suguri wrote:: I used to tell people 40tgh but I don't know if I like that train of thought anymore. All Scaregants have pretty horrid capa though, it's tough to do much with them. CV, weapon tunes, and HP are probably what matter most.

i dont think scaregant needs 40 tough, 30 is easily achievable on the series and should siffice. combined with his innate damage avoiding mechanics pure HP should work much better than toughness anyways

burai also opens the option to use the melee simply for slowing purposes due to his early bombthrow in the combo and the knockback at the third swing but im pretty sure that people wont understand what im saying here since they failed doing so in the heavy chrotacs thread - and chrotacs is much more obvious for that example >.>

Assuming you get free room to shoot them after slowing them, I'm not sure even at 8 tech you'd be able to get higher dps than you would continuing to beat on them. Albeit there's times when you're forced to do this (bot you're attacking also procc'd c.veil and slow/plenty of sheilds allow them to hit you still / fast enough melee to combo even during slow), I wouldn't suggest doing it for everything.

Subject: Re: Ideal Setup for Scaregant Burai Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:14 pm

Aurum_Sol wrote:: pure HP should work much better than toughness anyways

More or less what I was implying with "I don't know if I like that train of thought anymore". Calcing him quick though I can't even pass 600 HP with the stats and revenge/weapon tunes I want without capa tuning though...

Aurum_Sol wrote:: burai also opens the option to use the melee simply for slowing purposes due to his early bombthrow in the combo and the knockback at the third swing but im pretty sure that people wont understand what im saying here since they failed doing so in the heavy chrotacs thread - and chrotacs is much more obvious for that example >.>

I don't know, "slow tuning burai" makes a lot more sense at first glance than "slow tuning chrotacs". I don't think I like any of the scaregant line's main weapons enough to want to main them though.

Ace Poster Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26

Trill wrote:: I'm not sure even at 8 tech you'd be able to get higher dps than you would continuing to beat on them.

that isnt the goal

the goal is to keep damage of your own bot to a minimum and like you said you shouldnt do it with every target you find (for multiple reasons like an art deals more damage while on range than when being pummeled or AMMO)
for testing purposes i ended up using deamon vulcan for extended ammo capacity (and the ability to cloak and shoot) which is propably some kind sacrileg considering the usualy k-shield build

edit:

@ sugu

if i had the rainbowchips for tunes i would just do it and test it live (im pretty sure it works looking at chrotacs meleemechanics) but since i dont play enough to have spare rainbows anymore i wont be able to get it done and others dont even get close the idea
that being said, its not like im just throwing things around without putting thought into it, i can remember the reaction for my suggestion of tanking not with a land but with an art - that was not nice at all (or the discussion of old vs new rouche barrierball that i NEVER saw being used again a week after the change everyone seemed so fond of)

Regular Poster Posts : 185 Join date : 2011-05-19 Age : 35

Um, is it okay to let TEC go down to zero?

Subject: Re: Ideal Setup for Scaregant Burai Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:28 am

Try to keep TEC at 8.

Ace Poster Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28

Usually 0 TEC works on pure melees considering D. Spike bits are gonna do their job even with 40/0 STR/TEC balance, apparently, but I guess Burai needs TEC for the Gatling...

Subject: Re: Ideal Setup for Scaregant Burai Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:50 pm

Well, that's what I thought. 0 TEC works, too, I guess...

Adept Poster Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29

This is assuming everyone just wants to blatantly melee with it. If that's what you wanna do, then sure go for 0 TEC.

If you want to actually use the Gatling as a kiting/ranged weapon, keep some TEC, Force tune it, and maybe throw on a rapid.

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