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Mew The Ultimate Negro
Posts : 1540 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 429 Location : Nigeria, Niger
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Tue May 01, 2012 9:17 pm | |
| - blead wrote:
A little taller than the old one. o_o That was the first thing I noticed. | |
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Malphes Ace Poster
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Tue May 01, 2012 9:20 pm | |
| - MagicPotatoplz wrote:
- tggt wrote:
- Other gold are moe from royal to idol(except halloween ). Silver equipped with 3s weapons.
Where is my Pepo, CS. Why can't you put her in a main gara like this, one with good rates instead of those beyond terribad weekly gara rates.
Anyway, haven't gotten attacked by a new Ivis yet. Is she close to Eris-tier? >self heal >shield probably would explain why it attracts retards so much | |
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Suki_Eve Ace Poster
Posts : 1493 Join date : 2011-10-22 Age : 30 Location : Dude.
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Tue May 01, 2012 9:32 pm | |
| - MagicPotatoplz wrote:
- tggt wrote:
- Other gold are moe from royal to idol(except halloween ). Silver equipped with 3s weapons.
Where is my Pepo, CS. Why can't you put her in a main gara like this, one with good rates instead of those beyond terribad weekly gara rates.
Anyway, haven't gotten attacked by a new Ivis yet. Is she close to Eris-tier? Not Eris-tier. Smacked one in the face with a geso whip, only got hit three times, managed to run away. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Tue May 01, 2012 10:25 pm | |
| - Suki_Eve wrote:
- MagicPotatoplz wrote:
- tggt wrote:
- Other gold are moe from royal to idol(except halloween ). Silver equipped with 3s weapons.
Where is my Pepo, CS. Why can't you put her in a main gara like this, one with good rates instead of those beyond terribad weekly gara rates.
Anyway, haven't gotten attacked by a new Ivis yet. Is she close to Eris-tier? Not Eris-tier.
Smacked one in the face with a geso whip, only got hit three times, managed to run away. That's because your playstyle is down right bold. I bet it was pretty much the same as in that Fia vs Amateus fiasco, minus the Himmel factor of course @A@ I still think the new Ivis will be another bot to Alt+F4, once someone reveals her "sweet side" =A= | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Tue May 01, 2012 10:46 pm | |
| Haven't noticed anything horrible about the new Ivis. It's basically just a reskin of the old Ivis, unless I'm missing something. I just stand back and shoot it, she still has short range and shit TGH. Even when I was on some melee LND I'd come out victorious because I have higher TGH/HP and just smack her in between stuns.
Most importantly, she doesn't have darkness strike, which is the only thing that Eris has that pisses the fuck out of me. | |
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zerocl Molcar Coming Out Of A Vase
Posts : 1404 Join date : 2011-12-17 Age : 37 Location : Somewhere in South Pole
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Tue May 01, 2012 10:56 pm | |
| It's a top tier melee bot?, yes; Broken? I see some new Ivis getting killed by Drackens and some airs, without doing too much damage/ruckus, unlike Eris. So, IMHO, it's not a gamebreaking factor I'm more concerned in the new wave of Mialy's spammers :< | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Tue May 01, 2012 11:12 pm | |
| - zerocl wrote:
- It's a top tier melee bot?, yes; Broken? I see some new Ivis getting killed by Drackens and some airs, without doing too much damage/ruckus, unlike Eris.
So, IMHO, it's not a gamebreaking factor I'm more concerned in the new wave of Mialy's spammers :< the builds are in porcess... just wait a little... I was able to kill Reshas with lvl 4 Ivis... 28 wlk, 23 str, 15 tgh... I have finished my build but hasn´t tested how good is... at the begining I was o.O cause of the lack of guards, but I hasn´t been able to survive a lot in Arena just with that stats and without Stun regain... Was also able to kill some Eris.. but yes, sometimes was kicked so hard!!! (lack of build!!!) | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Wed May 02, 2012 12:05 am | |
| Newtype Ivis compared to old one... No Guard Carts. Stun Regain, Assault Step, and Broad Radar are available. Her Crimson Veil has Actual Force now, Regens and gives All Guard. Her Rapier is now "Transform" Mode, which becomes a Shield for automatic guarding. 3 Extra Slots due to the Ivis BS Her Rapier has faster slashes, compared to older Ivis. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Wed May 02, 2012 12:11 am | |
| - rei_hunter wrote:
- Her Crimson Veil has Actual Force now
Old Ivis's did too. | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Wed May 02, 2012 1:57 pm | |
| - rei_hunter wrote:
- Newtype Ivis compared to old one...
No Guard Carts. Stun Regain, Assault Step, and Broad Radar are available. Her Crimson Veil has Actual Force now, Regens and gives All Guard. Her Rapier is now "Transform" Mode, which becomes a Shield for automatic guarding. 3 Extra Slots due to the Ivis BS Her Rapier has faster slashes, compared to older Ivis. - the rapier has better range and speed that older one (have same stats as Eris swords) - Her Rapier is now "Transform" Mode, which becomes a Shield for automatic guarding.... ?? it's that the "shield" you activate with left click? It's removing whatever you have in the free hand. still not confirmed if is a bug or a feature. I like this new Ivis, it's not OP but she can fight hard, the Stun Regain make her able to rush and kill like a vanguar or BB. | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Wed May 02, 2012 2:44 pm | |
| Pretty sure it's the new aspects of the Crimson Veil that let her do that. Her TGH is still deplorable.
If a Vanguard or BB procs a revenge CV, they're probably gonna do a lot more damage than Ivis.
Now if someone decided to sacrifice some STR or WLK for TGH, having Stun Regain might actually make that kind of interesting now... | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Fri May 04, 2012 9:29 pm | |
| Thanks bredblead for the split...
To discuss about Ivis builds:
http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t9061-new-ivis
It's in the Guides. I have updated it with the sugested changes! | |
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Malphes Ace Poster
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Fri May 04, 2012 11:24 pm | |
| >mfw i see ivises spamming ten cveils in five seconds to heal | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 2:52 am | |
| - Malphes wrote:
- >mfw i see ivises spamming ten cveils in five seconds to heal
lol I also forget to use Eris wings... about Ivis Heal.. I still use her like the old Ivis!! | |
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Nymph~ Ace Poster
Posts : 1221 Join date : 2011-07-23
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 5:22 am | |
| - Malphes wrote:
- >mfw i see ivises spamming ten cveils in five seconds to heal
lolz, did happen on epoch when I was half dying eris, someone spam CV again and again so I use darkness-hide slash to stop it | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 3:25 pm | |
| Some people don´t notice it but activating Cveil deals 28 damage with 50 range!! and now it heals with a very low cooldown, it´s like and smal AOE. | |
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Tuskin Do not charge RT
Posts : 2811 Join date : 2011-01-25
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 9:21 pm | |
| I prefer the cartoonish look of the old Ivis. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 9:22 pm | |
| Ivis's C.veil activation has always dealt damage, along with knocking back / up. | |
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MagicPotatoplz Adept Poster
Posts : 898 Join date : 2011-08-03 Age : 104
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 9:33 pm | |
| - Trill wrote:
- Ivis's C.veil activation has always dealt damage, along with knocking back / up.
...I didn't know Ivis could get you knocked up. Requesting more new Ivis videos. Show off her good points, bad points, what she does, etc. Actual Arena recordings would be better. Chuky, record your Ivis please. D: I've gotten attacked by a few now, but I've only gotten slowed a couple times and easily got away. Honestly, she's not as OP as I thought. At all. Just normal old Ivis with longer range. Then again, I doubt any of them were tuned. | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 10:08 pm | |
| that longer range is what makes her so dangerous.. same as Eris.. she have long reach on the attacks | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 10:11 pm | |
| No, what makes Ivis dangerous is the CVeil that stops her from being stunned. |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 10:15 pm | |
| She's really not that OP. Nothing NEAR Eris tier.
Obviously with tuning she can be a pretty formidable force, but so can an Amateus. | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 10:40 pm | |
| - Raven wrote:
- She's really not that OP. Nothing NEAR Eris tier.
Obviously with tuning she can be a pretty formidable force, but so can an Amateus. If you know how to use Ivis you can kill Eris without problem: - CVeil protects you from being stuned - If you were using the "Shield" your weapons will not be disabled by the Eris Cloak. - Her Rapier range and speed are the same as Eris so it 1 vs 1 and the slash range and speed are high!! - Ivis doesn´t have the same amount of Inmortality Frames but she also have Stun lock combo! not so OP as Zeros but she is really good and whit that range in the weapon is one by one with Eris | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sat May 05, 2012 11:19 pm | |
| - Raven wrote:
- She's really not that OP. Nothing NEAR Eris tier.
Obviously with tuning she can be a pretty formidable force, but so can an Amateus. 1v1, I'd say HD Ivis is a lot more threatening to non-airs than Eris due to chain guard + CV. It's an incredibly dumb combo for getting into range and killing off a target without even opening yourself up to attack. Hell she can even clown Erises pretty hard if the Ivis player in question isn't a complete moron. Shouldn't lose more than 150 HP attacking her, and that's worst-case scenario (unless you somehow trip revenge CV on her or something, but Ivis doesn't really trip revenge tunes much if ever). | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: New Ivis? Sun May 06, 2012 2:00 am | |
| Maybe I just get "stupid" Ivis players then. I have no problem getting in melee fights with Ivis because she doesn't LOCK MY SUBWEAPONS. Ivis also doesn't OHKO my ARTs like that fucking darkness strike.
Maybe it's just that untuned Ivis has nothing on untuned Eris, but a tuned one is worse. | |
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