Upgrading to Seraph Crimrose

Hi, I was wondering about Seraph Crimrose. I got the Seraph Promotion Item and I'm getting close to LVL8 with her. I was wondering some things about her. I'd like to know this before I upgrade.

-Will my Seraph Crimrose be LVL8 or not?
-Will my Seraph Crimrose also have all my Level up Upgrades and Tuneups equipped, or will they be lost?
-If I level up my Crimrose to LVL10 before using the Seraph Promotion, instead of just going when she's at LVL8. Will that make her better, or will it have no effect.
-In what ways is Seraph Crimrose Stronger?
-Does Seraph Crimrose have a different Size-Type than Normal or not?


I'd like to know this before I get her to Level8 and Upgrade her.

Level 10 is the best level to promote your Crimrose at. The level affects your stats as a Seraph, so you'll want to be sure to level to 10 for the maximum stats.

+60 capa +20(30?) HP for waiting till lv10. Definitely do not promote at lv8 or 9.

Core resets to lv0. Parts aren't tied to the core so obviously tuneups won't be lost.

Main advantages to Seraph over Crim:

- Seraph Wings (1~3 ammo): Gives Seraph 25~33 seconds of continuous flight, during which she flies faster than 40 fly and has anti-homing.
- Seraph Tackle: A melee attack with partial invincibility frames.
- Higher stats
- Thanks to the locked BS2 she can use whatever legs she wants, instead of being limited to ones with a booster

What about the Level-Up Cartridges I get from gaining a level? Will she still have those or not?

Nope. Like I said, the core resets to lv0.

Koi has an old guide to Crim/Seraph. Give it a read if you haven't already.

Link -> http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t456-roa-small-guide-to-crimrose

Of course, some information and tips are obsolete now because of updates, so read carefully to figure out what's useful and what isn't.

And some of the info's outright bad from day one (>air loop on Seraph >tuning fly on Seraph)

Hey Suguri, am I doing it right?

Spoiler:

>ABR on Seraph

not even close

Trill wrote:

>ABR on Seraph

not even close

Change it to a Limited Plasma Gun then?

LXE wrote:

Hey Suguri, am I doing it right?

Spoiler:

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i'd like to know your thought processes when you made this so i can figure out what made you think any part of this build was good

LXE is trolling...isn't he?

Build Arm AMs on a Seraph?

tehprognoob wrote:

LXE is trolling...isn't he?

Build Arm AMs on a Seraph?

What's wrong with Build Arm AM on Seraph?

Build Arm AM on Seraph is fine. It gives walk for TGH and TEC tunes, and tec for obvious reasons, and the part is very cost efficient.

I'd personally use Lazflamme LG + A BS I'm not sure on.

Well I said some, not all. ; n ;

Also, is hopper seraph viable with internal anti homing?

Midreus wrote:

i'd like to know your thought processes when you made this so i can figure out what made you think any part of this build was good

- Low cost
- No need for so many tunes
- All the essential Cartridges for Airs
- Cheap, not much RT required.
- Small hitbox
- 99 seconds worth of over 40FLY speed Flight time

iKray wrote:

Well I said some, not all. ; n ;

Also, is hopper seraph viable with internal anti homing?

Yes Seraph Hopper + Slice Gun is a very common build.

LXE wrote:

Midreus wrote:

i'd like to know your thought processes when you made this so i can figure out what made you think any part of this build was good

- Low cost
- No need for so many tunes
- All the essential Cartridges for Airs
- Cheap, not much RT required.
- Small hitbox
- 99 seconds worth of over 40FLY speed Flight time

After which you're toast

tehprognoob wrote:

LXE wrote:

Midreus wrote:

i'd like to know your thought processes when you made this so i can figure out what made you think any part of this build was good

- Low cost
- No need for so many tunes
- All the essential Cartridges for Airs
- Cheap, not much RT required.
- Small hitbox
- 99 seconds worth of over 40FLY speed Flight time

After which you're toast

>Implying 20FLY is totally toast.

If you can't deal enough damage in 99 seconds to completely outweight your cost then you are dumb.

Midreus wrote:

LXE wrote:

Hey Suguri, am I doing it right?

Spoiler:

...

i'd like to know your thought processes when you made this so i can figure out what made you think any part of this build was good

ABR on a Wing Seraph? Good luck trying to hit something if you're not looking at the bot, as the turning is slow with wings out, and if you're looking to the side or the back and try to shoot your ABR, your ABR will shoot towards the side and not straight ahead.

ZephyrKaiser wrote:

ABR on a Wing Seraph? Good luck trying to hit something if you're not looking at the bot, as the turning is slow with wings out, and if you're looking to the side or the back and try to shoot your ABR, your ABR will shoot towards the side and not straight ahead.

Trill already pointed that out. :V

Trill wrote:

If you can't deal enough damage in 99 seconds to completely outweight your cost then you are dumb.

But you'll want to have the chance to do more damage after 99 seconds are gone!

Play like a regular Crimrose with better stats afterwards; you'll want a good amount of FLY for that

Is it just me, or do people think that you Wing with Seraph, spam, and then die pitifully?

That's so silly

tehprognoob wrote:

Trill wrote:

If you can't deal enough damage in 99 seconds to completely outweight your cost then you are dumb.

But you'll want to have the chance to do more damage after 99 seconds are gone!

Play like a regular Crimrose with better stats afterwards; you'll want a good amount of FLY for that

Is it just me, or do people think that you Wing with Seraph, spam, and then die pitifully?

That's so silly

Next you're going to tell us we should tune fly on buridens.

Seraph is one of the best bots that can go WITHOUT tunes.