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+8blead Nilla God is a Cat Girl FreedomFighter Arti Zwiebel Force Aurum_Sol DarkChuky 12 posters |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:31 pm | |
| The actual support circles (lala, winberls, school crim...) are being spamed into the PS... That is afailure cause that circel buff will block the PS hyper shot buff... And support bots the uses it will be blocking our arts from geting the Hyper Shot buff... so SUPORT bots pleace be a littel smart and stop doing it!!! - Spoiler:
Then the combo Hyper WB + Circle just doesn't works...!! avoid it! This also happend with some Chibi Circles! | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:36 pm | |
| actually, liveshow should work with hypershot of any kind, im not sure with shoolcrim circle, but it might work seeing as the only buff you gain is all guard
your right with chibicircles and winbell circle | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:12 pm | |
| Moe Field is gone so fast, it doesn't matter (and also has no synergy with Hyper Shot I think) o-o
IIRC the Auto Reair Field doesn't override Hyper Shot to. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:17 pm | |
| - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- Moe Field is gone so fast, it doesn't matter (and also has no synergy with Hyper Shot I think) o-o
IIRC the Auto Reair Field doesn't override Hyper Shot to. auto repair field overwrites it and usually makes being at the powerspot pointless (seriously, its bad for the team if you denie them hypershot in a tight situation) | |
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Arti Ace Poster
Posts : 1204 Join date : 2011-05-20 Age : 29 Location : New York City
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:23 pm | |
| - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- Moe Field is gone so fast, it doesn't matter (and also has no synergy with Hyper Shot I think) o-o
If Angel Kiss and Hyper Shot can be active at the same time, then it's a nice combo. 100hp, wb refill, and all guard ON TOP OF hyper shot is just too good. | |
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FreedomFighter Ace Poster
Posts : 1147 Join date : 2010-10-10
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:59 pm | |
| you can have only one positive buff and one negative buff
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certain of buff can stack to each other, still unknow why.
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:11 pm | |
| - FreedomFighter wrote:
- you can have only one positive buff and one negative buff
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certain of buff can stack to each other, still unknow why.
Get on a slow trap with Baron and catch yourself on fire. You are now with slow and on fire. But that's because you caused the fire status yourself, else the slow would've been overridden. | |
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Nilla Adept Poster
Posts : 828 Join date : 2011-03-13 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:18 pm | |
| Chibis can use burst fire bit and long range circles | |
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FreedomFighter Ace Poster
Posts : 1147 Join date : 2010-10-10
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:25 pm | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- FreedomFighter wrote:
- you can have only one positive buff and one negative buff
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certain of buff can stack to each other, still unknow why.
Get on a slow trap with Baron and catch yourself on fire. You are now with slow and on fire. But that's because you caused the fire status yourself, else the slow would've been overridden.
Fire stat that baron cast count as positive buff, try ran into PS or LR Aura and that fire will gone. | |
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blead [Administrator]
Posts : 2370 Join date : 2011-03-25 Age : 811 Location : ( ・_・)
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:15 pm | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:19 pm | |
| - Nilla wrote:
- Chibis can use burst fire bit and long range circles
If both buffs are active then you'll also have the disorder status until 1 of them disappear | |
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FreedomFighter Ace Poster
Posts : 1147 Join date : 2010-10-10
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:00 am | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:07 am | |
| I really don't like when people put circles under the PS. :X And though I don't mind Hyper Shot circles under the PS since the circle is actually better, most of the time they could've placed it much further into the map, so we could use the most out of the hyper shot. | |
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Mac2492 Regular Poster
Posts : 107 Join date : 2011-07-19 Age : 32 Location : California
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:23 am | |
| Completely Fine Lala: Circle doesn't conflict with HS, so it's fine to use it under PS. HS Circle: Gives longer HS than PS, so it's fine under PS. Of course, you might as well put it farther away where people can't easily get HS.
Situational/Okay Regina: Repair Field can be placed under the power spot if you have a repair bit out and there are so many people around you that moving would be impractical (when mass rapid healing is required). Otherwise, it's best to grab HS for cooldown reduction, place circle BESIDE the PS, then move back to the PS to get HS again (this works well with chibi circles as well). Regina-chan: Chibi Beruberu's circle dies after 6 touches and each activation only lasts 6 seconds, so it actually doesn't hurt to place it under PS. Personally, I still place her circles beside PS unless I'm surrounded by people who need to be healed quickly. School Crimrose: Moe Field dies within moments so it really doesn't matter if you use it under PS. Mist/Veil Circle: For the handful of people with Ivis/Misty-chan, the duration of these buffs is short enough that you can place the circle under HS. Mist Circle could also be useful if you're being attacked by ranged attacks while healing under PS. However, it's generally better to put them beside PS.
No Ammo?LR Circle: Never place under PS. Ever. Long-range buff lasts way too long and prevents you from getting HS.
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FreedomFighter Ace Poster
Posts : 1147 Join date : 2010-10-10
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:26 am | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- I really don't like when people put circles under the PS. :X
And though I don't mind Hyper Shot circles under the PS since the circle is actually better, most of the time they could've placed it much further into the map, so we could use the most out of the hyper shot. i found one major reason why They're on healing and won't bother to move so set aura right there damn, make up your damn mind, heal or aura. also the patient don't mind if you slowly walk away to place aura. | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:54 pm | |
| wow nice comments... just remember this thread is not for Buff stack, is just to ask healer to avoid blocking the HS buff!!!
I'm not sure about Lala, but I start with this issue with Regina and Lala, but was not taking care about it... (I was playing full mele) but now Im using some ART and then I noticed it! | |
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FreedomFighter Ace Poster
Posts : 1147 Join date : 2010-10-10
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:22 pm | |
| - DarkChuky wrote:
- wow nice comments... just remember this thread is not for Buff stack, is just to ask healer to avoid blocking the HS buff!!!
I'm not sure about Lala, but I start with this issue with Regina and Lala, but was not taking care about it... (I was playing full mele) but now Im using some ART and then I noticed it! but it's nice to know which one can stack with each other personally i prefer LR aura since it also resupply 10% of total bullet. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:43 pm | |
| - FreedomFighter wrote:
- DarkChuky wrote:
- wow nice comments... just remember this thread is not for Buff stack, is just to ask healer to avoid blocking the HS buff!!!
I'm not sure about Lala, but I start with this issue with Regina and Lala, but was not taking care about it... (I was playing full mele) but now Im using some ART and then I noticed it! but it's nice to know which one can stack with each other :cheers:
personally i prefer LR aura since it also resupply 10% of total bullet. its not a matter of preference, the powerspot is the point your team is the strongest and this is becuse of the hypershot it supplys you with this tactical advantage is lost when there is any non hypershot circle under the powerspot so basically, putting a circle under the powerspot is the best way to help the enemy team | |
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Kirika Ace Poster
Posts : 1029 Join date : 2011-03-16 Age : 37 Location : Yuggoth
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:44 pm | |
| I've seen horrific numbers of new Lala/Regina users doing this since the Mega gara -3- I keep telling them not to, but gah! I usually put my Auto-repair circle up in front lines. The people who need it most often can't make it back to a repair bit. Also, if the front line retreats, the enemy usually follows @_@ | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:10 pm | |
| - Kirika wrote:
- I've seen horrific numbers of new Lala/Regina users doing this since the Mega gara -3- I keep telling them not to, but gah! I usually put my Auto-repair circle up in front lines. The people who need it most often can't make it back to a repair bit. Also, if the front line retreats, the enemy usually follows @_@
As long as it's well placed on the front lines, I pretty much appreciate it. But I've seen Reginas spamming circles on the opposite side of where the team is, so you would either see circles going to waste, or people having run madly from right to left (or the opposite) and vice versa just to get the auto-heal. They are basically making who wants to be healed an easy target. And I really don't like Reginas that spam the circles like no tomorrow and then they start begging for ammo. It's pretty lame to watch circles going to waste, and when I need ammo, someone leaves ammo nearby, the Regina takes it and wastes another circle in the place where she got the ammo, and while I don't have ammo, I keep seeing those circles going to waste because she also refuses to use a repair bit. :/ 1 of the rarest cases was a Regina spamming circles on top of some chibi's long range circles. And I've seen this happening under the PS. Lala's dancing right on the spawn in the beginning of the match is pretty "funny" too. | |
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MagicPotatoplz Adept Poster
Posts : 898 Join date : 2011-08-03 Age : 104
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:15 pm | |
| Like 2 or 3 people said, Lala's buffs don't override PS's Hypershot, so don't tell them to stop putting it under PS. ._.
Also, I would assume School Crim's circle recharges a healer's Repair bit, so let them do that unless there's no healer. But I agree, I /hate/ it when Regina puts her circle under the PS. Not only does it get rid of Hypershot, but it also causes majur laggz if I end up standing in it. Chibi cirles are small enough to avoid, but it would be nice to see the circle put off to the side sometimes. | |
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Kirika Ace Poster
Posts : 1029 Join date : 2011-03-16 Age : 37 Location : Yuggoth
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:18 pm | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- Kirika wrote:
- I've seen horrific numbers of new Lala/Regina users doing this since the Mega gara -3- I keep telling them not to, but gah! I usually put my Auto-repair circle up in front lines. The people who need it most often can't make it back to a repair bit. Also, if the front line retreats, the enemy usually follows @_@
As long as it's well placed on the front lines, I pretty much appreciate it. But I've seen Reginas spamming circles on the opposite side of where the team is, so you would either see circles going to waste, or people having run madly from right to left (or the opposite) and vice versa just to get the auto-heal. They are basically making who wants to be healed an easy target.
And I really don't like Reginas that spam the circles like no tomorrow and then they start begging for ammo. It's pretty lame to watch circles going to waste, and when I need ammo, someone leaves ammo nearby, the Regina takes it and wastes another circle in the place where she got the ammo, and while I don't have ammo, I keep seeing those circles going to waste because she also refuses to use a repair bit. :/
1 of the rarest cases was a Regina spamming circles on top of some chibi's long range circles. And I've seen this happening under the PS.
Lala's dancing right on the spawn in the beginning of the match is pretty "funny" too. I always use a mix of Heal bit/regen circle with my Regina. Also, she has 15 circles, so I can spam one per minute and not run out in a full battle ^_^ Of course, it's really just a matter of the fact that a lot of these people we're complaining about just got/started using a Regina. They'll get the hang of it. I just got a Lala from this gara, so I'm sure I'll suck with her for a while =P | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: SUPORT bots and the Buff Circles Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:08 am | |
| Today a Lala was dancing under the PS. I did not get my Hyper shot. :/ | |
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