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there are better sup's with broad radar.
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..I don't know any truly trash bots. A lot of em I know aren't sufficient really compared to other more accessible cores.. but not truly trash.

Lucheer is probably more useful than I deem her. But that's the only thing I can think of...

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PostSubject: Re: [Info] Useless bot core compendium   [Info] Useless bot core compendium - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 11:38 am

Elisalotte is a trash bot for people who want to 40 STR/40 WLK everything, and there're plenty of situations when it's useful to knock back stuff.
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falcon1 wrote:
Daruma Star, even though the default bit is mini burstfire, I still don't think it's worth using. It won't even last long enough to fully activate it's WB, even in a level 5 room.
Disagreed. Daruma is a great UC infiltration/utility bot due to its carts and small size. It has high starting Wlk and gets Boost Run, Broad Radar, and Stealth System. Without putting much effort into it (quick part swaps, no tuning), my lv.5 Daruma Star has 25 Wlk and 12 Fly. It's not meant to be an offensive bot.
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Turkeysaur wrote:
Elisalotte is a trash bot for people who want to 40 STR/40 WLK everything, and there're plenty of situations when it's useful to knock back stuff.

i agree with turkeysaur, elisalotte has nothing to do in this thread

shes like a more supportive and defensive melee and great at protecting fatarts from ouka ambushes and similar stuff
i like elisa and do not see problems with her at all, she is not a fencer, spiker, ouka, ivis or whatever so maybe some people should try to use their brains and try to use what she offers, not cry for what she does not offer
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Nisa wrote:
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there are better sup's with broad radar.

Name any other M SUP that has broad radar, sniper sight, and stealth system.
It's very 'useful' to find and attack afk\botters on the other team without other players noticing it, unless they have broad radar as well.

It can get Broad Radar starting below level 5 as well.

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Lucheer is probably more useful than I deem her. But that's the only thing I can think of...
Besides CS, Lucheer is the only SUP bot that can hop (short boost+quick land) with moving burst. Give it Winberll AMs and get Moving Burst...?

falcon1 wrote:
Daruma Star, even though the default bit is mini burstfire, I still don't think it's worth using. It won't even last long enough to fully activate it's WB, even in a level 5 room.

In addition: Free Burstfire for everyone in boss quests, especially in Berz. Daruma Star, and probably Priestol, are very useful when you're out of UC and Bits.


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falcon1 wrote:
Daruma Star, even though the default bit is mini burstfire, I still don't think it's worth using. It won't even last long enough to fully activate it's WB, even in a level 5 room.

He will last quite a long time provided you hop like a boss (Short Boost at level 6, high base walk, and not to mention he has a really small core). Also, if you take it to 9 your reward is Broad Radar...

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PostSubject: Re: [Info] Useless bot core compendium   [Info] Useless bot core compendium - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 3:31 pm

All that effort for Daruma ain't worth it man. I know you all just wanna prove your points but it ain't worth it. Saying that there's just better bots to spend your time tinkering and that makes Daruma part of the rotting subgarage / junked bd trash bin that we all have.
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PostSubject: Re: [Info] Useless bot core compendium   [Info] Useless bot core compendium - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 5:09 pm

In addition to hopping abilities you can build a lucheer shorter than a chibi, they are great bots, no one uses them however.

Tengu is kinda like the l-air mach knight. Every build you could put on tengu is probably done better on another large air, but he does have the 3-way as his default bit, making him an even more bizarre bot than he already is. He also makes a really cheap starduster.

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PostSubject: Re: [Info] Useless bot core compendium   [Info] Useless bot core compendium - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 5:18 pm

Oh boy, this thread got posts fast while I was asleep. I'll just touch on three now.

Turkeysaur wrote:
Build Arm, seriously, what to do with it when you have Victory 1 and Misside's BDs?
I'd like to point out that the majority of builds you can do on misside give you more HP and a better stat:cost ratio on Build Arm. If you use Misside for something, it's either Quick Boost, or his high core wlk.

ngelicdark wrote:
..I don't know any truly trash bots. A lot of em I know aren't sufficient really compared to other more accessible cores.. but not truly trash.

Lucheer is probably more useful than I deem her. But that's the only thing I can think of...
Calling Lucheer bad is probably worse than calling Bugsycait bad.

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Shine Battler
Now that's more like it. One of my clannies when I was in Snowflake 0-costed first place in epoch with one once, but I have no idea how the hell he pulled that off. That core's carts are just pure trash.
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Useless is a strong word, I'd say Crocodagger is kuso-tier though.


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I cant find much use for King Megaton...

I just noticed he has pretty decent core fly, albeit his carts cant work that well with fly
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Suguri wrote:
'd like to point out that the majority of builds you can do on misside give you more HP and a better stat:cost ratio on Build Arm. If you use Misside for something, it's either Quick Boost, or his high core wlk.

Well, I see Misside as a S Destructor because of all that godly free capa you get after removing their AMs and very good base stats.
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I saw Dharma Star so much as mentioned in this thread.

Waaaaat...
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Kitouski wrote:
I saw Dharma Star so much as mentioned in this thread.

Waaaaat...
Dharma Star's an awesome SUP bot. Definitely not useless.
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It's easier to name useless core weapons, lol.

Hound is kinda useless, it makes for a really cheap hopper, but it's capacity is meh.
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Magma8520 wrote:
ehm...TurtleBacker......Even Frog Lander is more usefull.
Prove it.

Winty wrote:
elisalotte
She's fine, she's just not what most people expect her to be.

ayarei wrote:
Needle Mog bounce bounce
Best UC bot for Haku alone redeems it.

ziix wrote:

Boildeck EG? (The one with the main weapon grenades. not Hardboiled.)
Don't have one, I heard one of the grenade cores have terrible accuracy. Doesn't the BD have really good stats though?

Hyoka wrote:
Mechled

Look, I know you can break a PS fast with one, but really, are you going to survive the trip there to begin with?
Probably, yes. There's still other uses for it anyway.

Nisa wrote:
Cyberoid


there are better sup's with broad radar.
>Cyberoid
>bad

mitchi.exe wrote:

Name any other M SUP that has broad radar, sniper sight, and stealth system.
Only other sup with all three is A.Maid, and she's S.

Trill wrote:
I cant find much use for King Megaton...

I just noticed he has pretty decent core fly, albeit his carts cant work that well with fly
Lowest cost L-art is enough redeeming quality for it imo.

Turkeysaur wrote:
Well, I see Misside as a S Destructor because of all that godly free capa you get after removing their AMs and very good base stats.
Fatter hitbox than Build Arm, and if you take all capa carts Build Arm ends up with about as much capacity with more HP at lower cost. Like I said, Misside's only worth using over Build Arm if you're making a wlk-based cheap art, or if you're going to utilize Quick Boost for something.

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Short Boost + Quick Jump on a high-str bot. Two HDs for 4 accessories and more slots/stats. Definitely usable as a melee core.

Intet wrote:
It's easier to name useless core weapons, lol.

Hound is kinda useless, it makes for a really cheap hopper, but it's capacity is meh.
Fun fact: It was the highest tec M-land BD until Accel Saber came out, and I think Accel's is still the same.
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This thread turned into the: "Let sugu explain why x bot doesnt suck"
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Trill wrote:
This thread turned into the: "Let sugu explain why x bot doesnt suck"
Suguri wrote:
Secret agenda: Waiting for people to suggest bots they didn't know were good as useless to get them to try something new.
Did it really turn into that? :3
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Suguri wrote:
Trill wrote:
This thread turned into the: "Let sugu explain why x bot doesnt suck"
Suguri wrote:
Secret agenda: Waiting for people to suggest bots they didn't know were good as useless to get them to try something new.
Did it really turn into that? :3


It totally did =/


Honestly though, this thread I think is truthfully short. Useless is really deemed by the viewers..or the ignorant.

Did not know that bit about lucheer though. Too bad I don't care enough for supports now to bother..
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ngelicdark wrote:
Did not know that bit about lucheer though. Too bad I don't care enough for supports now to bother..
Not like being a support forces you to use a repair bit. My Elme uses Dual Slayer. My Lucheer uses Burst Fire.
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Suguri wrote:

>Cyberoid
>bad

only its HD is the good part...explains all the headless Cyberoids i have in my garage.
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NoizeGT wrote:
Suguri wrote:

>Cyberoid
>bad

only its HD is the good part...explains all the headless Cyberoids i have in my garage.
Someone hasn't looked at the AMs, LG, or BD.
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