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PostSubject: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 5:27 pm

Hello, I am looking for some advice as to what tunes I should pick for a Red Squealer Arm and K Sword.

For the Squealer Arm, I am considering either 3 High Gladiator for +30% Range / +30% Speed or 2 Slow tunes and a High Gladiator for +10% Range / +10% Speed and Slow. The first option would propel me around faster and the second one would hinder targets from escaping.

For the K Sword, I am considering either 2 Great Grappler Alpha tunes for +18% Force / -20% Speed and an Eternal tune or 2 High Gladiator tunes for +20% Range / +20% Speed and an Eternal tune. I could see the Great Grappler Alpha option might fit in well if I decided to go with double Slow on the Squealer arm, and the High Gladiator option would compliment the triple High Gladiator Squealer.

So, I would like to receive some opinions on these two paths I could take. Also, any suggestions for other tuning strategies involving these two weapon arms would be greatly appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 5:31 pm

Don't bother with slow tunes on a squealer arm, it doesn't hit anywhere near enough for it to be worthwhile even if you triple slow-tuned it. Triple high glad punches will move you really far really fast, but that's +135 cost in tunes on a part you're just using to set yourself up for a different weapon. I'd do maybe one if any weapon tunes on it.

Eternal tune on K-Sword sounds like a waste to me, but maybe that's just me. More force is the way to go with that though.
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 6:30 pm

from my experience fightning k-sword and baron ff sword wielding enemies with my fencer, i rarely cut of one of those two AMs, its much more common to slash of a byne girl AM

you may reconsider the eternal tune on those arms as they seem not so fragile at all, but i guess you want to make 100% sure to not lose it
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 6:47 pm

Suggest also that you don't do any of the tunes you're thinking of.

RS are fine vanilla; pair it up with a melee weapon that's much more worth to tune it.

K Swords--I would rather 3x force up all the way. That way, the slow first hit of the combo is cancelled out by the RS punch, and you still get the wonderful benefit.

You're not going to be losing that thing unless you ran into a breaker bot. Not many of em exist in CBEN.
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 11:49 pm

OK, thank you all for the input. I guess I'll use the Squealer slots for stats and 3x force tune the sword. I've managed to have the K Sword broken five times out of.. umm.. about a hundred battles, which was why I was wondering about the Eternal.. but, then again, that really isn't often enough to invest points in.
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 4:24 am

well, it seems much more common to run around as renny without arms and byne girl without pilebunker >.>

(renny loses her arms quite easily but she doesnt have the capa for eternal tunes and isnt helpless without arms anyways )
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 5:01 am

k-sword = 3 great grappler
RS Am = stat tune
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 5:05 am

One question, What bot are you using this weapon combination on?
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 11:38 am

I've got two bots set up for this and I've been switching the arm in between them until I decide who I like better. Right now it is on a Hound Dog, but I also have a Cyclotes sitting in my garage; waiting for his turn to have the arm back. I chose those two because they both had stun regain. For the one that doesn't get the arm in the end, I'll have to find something else for it to do, but I'm not sure what. I haven't done enough boss runs to have a big, white sword/staff and I'm not sure a land would really benefit from one of my two Slash Blades or one of my four Tristar + arms. I have two versions of Shino legs, but they seem kinda difficult to use. (One has massive INT and the other doesn't do that much damage.)

I put the 3x force tunes on it last night and I am very pleased with the results. (Luckily, I had some regular, gamma and epsilon harmonics laying around.) Thank you all for the advice. I can really tell the difference in damage and I hear that "i just had my arm/head lopped off" sound much more often. (Now I just need to start strength tuning the bots.)
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 12:07 pm

I'd recommend Cyclotes by far over Hound Dog, it's one of the better melee cores.

Red Squealer is also a good option; no Rt required, decent stats, and the cart step internal gets you into range very quickly.
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 12:55 pm

Yeah, I was leaning more toward Cyclotes anyway. It has tons more capacity and nearly identical carts. The only real downside is its cost. I'll just have to make sure to perform when I pull it out.

I did find out one thing about Squealer Arm, recently: It doesn't seem to pair well with Boost Run. One of its main strengths is its ability to fly up into the sky to swat air units down. With Boost Run added I always seem to be low on the boost juice.
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 2:26 pm

When you run RS, if you're going to be spamming cart step in order to run up to something, it's either practice juggling boost, or not at all. Most of the time, you'll be in range for something to be able to cart step into. If not, you can always adjust it slightly by hopping (since a lot of k-sworders have k-shields as well).

Since I don't have cyclotes, I used to use RS for this. Can't say I had much success with it though; I never tuned him for TGH, and the most I could squeeze out of him with parts was around 21. Didn't help too much though >.>
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 3:30 pm

First time I used untuned RS in arena with Squealer arm + viper and k-sword I got crown for the first time using a melee bot. :v

You're right though, Squealer's tgh is highly crippling. You should just speed-dash at solo targets or unaware groups and spike them down hard and fast.
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PostSubject: Re: Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword...   Tuning strategies for Red Squealer Arm and K Sword... EmptyMon Aug 22, 2011 4:34 pm

Dunno then. Was playing in a room full of alpha airs at a time (should not take a stat reliant bot to a above lvl 5 room if I want to stand a chance...) amongst..tuned VFs and whatnot.

Then again, I was throwing myself at the crowd XD Wanted to see how much TGH would really make things be. Though obviously, it wasn't much of a success run.
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