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+20LazerRazer BNOISE Turkeysaur NovaZero Shance Raven Nisa SkyPanic Midona Rinrin SilverySil Z741 FrozenEdge knyx Asagi-san ngelicdark rei_hunter Hyoka Aria Suguri 24 posters |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Enough ranting about the rates... Mon May 23, 2011 9:02 pm | |
| ...how about opinions on what's in Royal Gara itself?
From what I've seen so far:
Elisalotte: Trash bot, outclassed by a good chunk of UC bots even. Hopefully gets a solid buff. Melfi: Godlike at supporting, average otherwise. Balanced, yet fantastic. Renny Lop Acro: I like old Renny's LG more, and I know I'm not the only one. Backhop > fronthop, and the combo is great at passing through targets and doesn't like to stun. Lily Rain Le Reve: Kind of like the Muchi version of Lily. Kind of.
Tristar+: Melee bots love the arms, works amazingly for Haku as far as I can tell. Core makes for a nice alpha, especially for the JP machinegun alpha build. Cyclotes: Godly core. Haven't tried the SMASHYSMASHY arm in combat yet though.
Gamma Lightning Gun: Shit. Air Slasher: Pretty similar to Slash Blade. Blast Magnet Gun : Haven't tried yet. Septuple Launcher: Haven't tried yet, but I haven't heard good things about it. | |
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Aria Master Poster
Posts : 2859 Join date : 2011-03-24 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Mon May 23, 2011 9:04 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- Gamma Lightning Gun: Shit.
+1 | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Mon May 23, 2011 9:29 pm | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Mon May 23, 2011 9:41 pm | |
| Lily Rain Re Revu - She's an okay bot. At least now it goes with a Double Handy Bazooka Mounted Lily Rain.
Septule Launcher - They only fire once. but they've got good tracking. Best used on something like Sturbanger Standard.... with 3 of these weapons. | |
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Mon May 23, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| So basically the only thing I want outta the Gara now out of any use is probably Melfi/Lily Rain in terms of gold. (Also, who's dumb idea was to make that little mini jump forward??)
If you're gonna land a superfly, chances are you'll be trolled by tristar/cyclops anyway. It'd be good to get one tristar for testing though at least.
Great to know that I'm not missing much.
Also, everyone's going to be ranting about rates every garapon. And if the garapon has decent rates, you'll hear a comment about it a few times, then nothing else would be said -_-''
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Asagi-san Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2011-04-28 Age : 30 Location : The City of Angels, CA
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Mon May 23, 2011 11:56 pm | |
| - ngelicdark wrote:
- So basically the only thing I want outta the Gara now out of any use is probably Melfi/Lily Rain in terms of gold. (Also, who's dumb idea was to make that little mini jump forward??)
If you're gonna land a superfly, chances are you'll be trolled by tristar/cyclops anyway. It'd be good to get one tristar for testing though at least.
Great to know that I'm not missing much.
Also, everyone's going to be ranting about rates every garapon. And if the garapon has decent rates, you'll hear a comment about it a few times, then nothing else would be said -_-''
Well, other than the fact that they're not golds, Tristar + and Cyclotes are pretty darn good for silvers. Tristar + has a core double beam machinegun, which is good for alphags if you like playing with them. They also have a rather low cost, which is nice. Cyclotes also starts out with 20 WLK core alone, so he's a very nice LND bot; I haven't taken notice of his other stats, though. His AM's, however, seem like they'd be useless due to the starting lag time to have the first hit register. That being said, I personally wouldn't mind if I got those two bots with a Superfly, unless I kept getting them. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 12:05 am | |
| - Suguri wrote:
Amateus girl: Well she shoots novamissile psyguns
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FrozenEdge Ace Poster
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2010-10-18 Location : Antartica
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 12:30 am | |
| - Suguri wrote:
Cyclotes: Godly core. Haven't tried the SMASHYSMASHY FAPPING arm in combat yet though.
*fixed* ._. | |
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Z741 Adept Poster
Posts : 739 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 1:52 am | |
| Blast Magnet Gun is pretty comparable to the shop Magnet Gun. Requires testing to see about the damage type ratio though. | |
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SilverySil Adept Poster
Posts : 508 Join date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 2:12 am | |
| people gona complain no matter what you say.
when you have such a low rate its inevitable. | |
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Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 4:49 am | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- ...how about opinions on what's in Royal Gara itself?
From what I've seen so far:
Elisalotte: Trash bot, outclassed by a good chunk of UC bots even. Hopefully gets a solid buff.
ur doing it wrong.
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Midona Adept Poster
Posts : 608 Join date : 2010-09-25 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 6:24 am | |
| "Gamma Lightning Gun: Shit."
I deny this, miss. The stun probability is really good (about 1:3 to 1:2 regarding tough), and really more important, pass THROUGH shield (Kshield users and baltheon raper). I recognize this weapon is horrible for 1 on 1 with another AIR, but in any others case, it's a really reliable weapon. And it have a decent amount of ammo (250). And it have big bullets for a M Sized weapon. Really easy to hit with if you can lead your target.
I remplace my double Auto beam rifle on my MJG by a double GLG and now she do less damages but do what I want her to do from the beginning : survive, stun, rape LND even with high TGH. And Trust me, a double shot with 26 tec, they don't like.
"Air Slasher=Slash Blade"
Half denied. The stat are the same, but the attacks are really different. Air Slasher always generate one slash when slash blade can in some case generate two slash. Air slasher don't have a running attack. But Air slasher have infinite attacks instead of 2. Well not exactly infinite, but the pause time after the normal 4 attacks combo is about 0.2 sec, when Slash blade have around 1 seconds. One give 2 FLY, the other 1 WLK 1 FLY.
One do more damages in less time, the other have a ten time better stun lock. Both are valuable. And Air slasher have a superb design, and this is priceless.
The cyclops.... the arm is more or less a built in Jet hammer, maybe a bit less reliable. Very good at rushing a PS. | |
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SkyPanic Adept Poster
Posts : 775 Join date : 2011-02-09
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 7:44 am | |
| buff elisalottle is ok, but don't make her OP
this game failed more when more OP bot release | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 8:17 am | |
| - Midona wrote:
- miss.
*cough* - Midona wrote:
- The stun probability is really good (about 1:3 to 1:2 regarding tough), and really more important, pass THROUGH shield (Kshield users and baltheon raper). I recognize this weapon is horrible for 1 on 1 with another AIR, but in any others case, it's a really reliable weapon. And it have a decent amount of ammo (250). And it have big bullets for a M Sized weapon. Really easy to hit with if you can lead your target.
Too bad the range and interval are ass and the bullet is small. I'll stick with limited plasma or wide beam, thanks. Air Slasher does have a lot more differences to it than I first noticed when I made the thread (hello blast damage!), so yeah. | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 12:04 pm | |
| for every future garapon
-Novelty (op?) -novelty -novelty -hair colour diff moebot -lolbot -new build
-derp -der -derp -qq bait
-weapons(good?) -weapons terribad
-bad tune balls
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 5:20 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
Air Slasher does have a lot more differences to it than I first noticed when I made the thread (hello blast damage!), so yeah. >Blast Damage Melee. Say what. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 5:21 pm | |
| - Raven wrote:
- Suguri wrote:
Air Slasher does have a lot more differences to it than I first noticed when I made the thread (hello blast damage!), so yeah. >Blast Damage Melee.
Say what. Yep, projectile does blast damage, oddly enough. Have fun meleeing airs for 70~100. | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 6:28 pm | |
| Perfect for Zero Step build ZSGs | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 11:00 pm | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Tue May 24, 2011 11:08 pm | |
| - Shance wrote:
- Perfect for Zero Step build ZSGs
If you're fighting airs. | |
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Turkeysaur Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-03-11 Location : BF30
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Wed May 25, 2011 3:32 am | |
| Renny Acro's first kicks animation makes anyone think they have great range but in fact their range is something approximately equal to Elisalotte's sword attack (or 3way dagger, pushing it a bit). Trying to combo anything at a greater range will result in passing through the target unless some redirection is done. Still, she is kinda a jack-of-all-trades so don't expect her to perform particularly good. | |
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BNOISE Ace Poster
Posts : 1216 Join date : 2011-01-08 Age : 32 Location : Home
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Wed May 25, 2011 4:20 am | |
| Elisa isn't a trash bot... With aura mode on she has fair more power than a lot of normal bots. It's just that her core ability is crap so it is hard for her to gain charge for her aura mode to be used. Depending on how she gets her core ability changed if cs does it, she might just become super strong kinda like how they made Aquila Girl extremely deadly with her blaster. (Something is obviously messed up when you have a chick have a blaster that is better than the original himself. Course technically they are the same person in the CS quest...) | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Wed May 25, 2011 5:05 am | |
| - BNOISE wrote:
- (Something is obviously messed up when you have a chick have a blaster that is better than the original himself. Course technically they are the same person in the CS quest...)
I always thought the gender-changing were more of upgrades than mere gender-changing. Maybe them turning female was a package deal: they get stronger, they have to be female. Although, Mighty Byne Girl(sad day for all them Byne fans I guess) and maybe Squidol Girl like their new bodies, so I dunno. | |
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LazerRazer Regular Poster
Posts : 455 Join date : 2011-03-31 Age : 33 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Wed May 25, 2011 5:10 am | |
| - Hyoka wrote:
- Shance wrote:
- Perfect for Zero Step build ZSGs
If you're fighting airs. Unless you haven't played CB for the last decade, AIRs are never in short supplies | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Enough ranting about the rates... Wed May 25, 2011 5:32 am | |
| Trash.... Trash everywhere Only useful bot is melfi | |
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