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PostSubject: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 1:59 pm

And I want to make him into an alpha striker. I don't own an air raider or alba, and I know they're better, but I wanna make do. (I read another thread about him but can't find where it is anymore).

Besides Cross shooters, Raystag HDs, and Pacifar beam gun AMs (all of which I don't own), what should I drop on him? I have plenty of DBMG but it feels dangerous to use on him; I also have pacifar br arms but they feel sorta suckish to me...

Oh also, do most alpha strikers carry slayer bits? I don't recall very well cuz all I know is that I get shot with a flurry of x shooter ammo and beam stuff.. -_-
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 2:43 pm

1) power lvl your way to lvl9 before doing anything else. psychocluster is crap before lvl9, so run as many berz 1 or 2* runs as you can; which also means you will run into me a lot.
2) farm missions or quests for a tension head
3) if you don't have anything good to use, use 2 wide beam guns; but if you have bliz blasters, put them on ASAP! nothing says deadly more than doing 60 damage a burst with a pair of them
4) bits are up to you
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 4:15 pm

Awesome then, can't wait to play with ya Very Happy If I do run into ya during my timezone though.

Ty for the tip; hafta hunt that Tentrion HD that I've been kinda lazy to do... Although I thought it didn't have an internal weap o.O

And also..GAH. I WANTED ANOTHER BLITZ BLASTER. Sugoi trolled me; I only have one. I rolled it this afternoon JUST for that blitz cuz I knew I'd never get the gold bots I wanted.....

And it ended up with me getting Ah-chan and that psychocluster.... Goddarnit. Oh, and 3 extra byron blades for a grand total of like 9. GODDAMMIT.

Also, is psycho crap before lvl 9 cuz you need internal carts for him? Or is it just the fact the needs all those carts to do even remotely well? -_-

Btw, I love that sig. Should make an edited version with a fat ART lol.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 4:53 pm

I think Psycho Cluster is best suited to long-range and/or homing weapons, since his stats are poor and that's what his internals consist of. My Psycho Cluster uses two greinaut arms, two magnet guns, and a tentrion HD; twelve homing bullets in a single burst.

Other parts I'd consider:

Raystag HD
Pterano HD

Frau AM
Pacifar AM
Pacifar AM2

Accel Beam Gun
Flint Musket
Beam Gun Mod
Beam Rifle?
Mini Bazooka


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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 4:56 pm

I just stuck flint muskets on mine, between those, and the core things take quite a bit of damage. Magnet guns are also alright.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 5:37 pm

Maybe a long range alpha striker instead? I don't have a greinaut either, I'm not particularly partial to support... ><

Okay I'm gonna assume he needs to be 9 for those internals.

And honestly, I was gonna snipe around with those long range internals til I found an open spot to start alpha striking. I guess I could stick a tentrion/pterano HD on him and give him the pacifar beam rifle arms. That way it'll prevent me from overstaying since they clip out fast anyway...

For the weapons... Eh I'm not sure yet. I'm curious to try the blitz blaster idea (so far it's just sitting on my gwyain so I can abuse it for beez hunting later) but if he's that fragile, I don't really wanna risk it. Alpha strikers are rather risky on their own if you're not careful and unnecessary risks may not always pay off..

**EDIT:

I crunched out a rough idea on how I was gonna build him and..frankly I'm a little disappointed.

Spoiler:

Talk about tight on cap. I can't fit in anything larger than two muskets...

I'm even thinking of ditching quick boost for another cap cart cuz having absolutely no room for anything doesn't feel right for an alpha striker. I thought most of them had a higher FLY o.O
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 5:54 pm

ngelicdark wrote:

For the weapons... Eh I'm not sure yet. I'm curious to try the blitz blaster idea (so far it's just sitting on my gwyain so I can abuse it for beez hunting later)
Too expensive if you're going to alpha with psycho. You've got about 90~100 free capacity total to work with for weapons after carts and parts (I'm assuming x7 capacity x2 internal and moving burst) and blitz on its own is 120~130.

Also blitz blaster DPS is vastly inferior to shotgun/custom shotgun/omega blaster if you're running bosses.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 7:39 pm

Drop quick boost, pick up the last capacity and free up some room to tune FLY.

You'll last literally a second against other AIRs in dogfight situations if you're that slow.

This *might* be a more suitable way of going about things:

Spoiler:

Blitz is superior for getting past the frac mobs and clearing berz bees due to beam penetration and ROF, but for DPS OMG blaster and CSG are superior. Personal preference but I would use blitz over OMG since the bullet speed and range helps kill the frac mobs before they can manage to mob you.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 8:27 pm

Duly noted about the shottie and whatnot issues. I'll just use one blitz for him, I have 3 more other slots that I can stick custom shotties into once I find them all.

I also don't own Tesla AM4/Flint muskets, which is why I've avoided using them. Dangit. Why does building an alphastriker have to be so particular to be maximized *grumbles*
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 8:56 pm

ngelicdark wrote:
Duly noted about the shottie and whatnot issues. I'll just use one blitz for him, I have 3 more other slots that I can stick custom shotties into once I find them all.

I also don't own Tesla AM4/Flint muskets, which is why I've avoided using them. Dangit. Why does building an alphastriker have to be so particular to be maximized *grumbles*

Pacifar arms are pretty good, nothing against them, in fact the TGH helps against stunning mid-flight. Though you hit 0 wlk quicker and lasts shorter than Tess AM4. Pacifar AM (regular) however is a good mix of cost and effectiveness/lasting ammo.

Spoiler:

I would not use muskets since they give you - fly, and you have no spare WLK to tune any more unless you sacrifice some tunes and weapons for a brix BS.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 9:04 pm

If Pacifar AM2 is your only weapon arm, I'd try this:

【Robot Name】
Psycho Cluster

【Parts】
BD: Psycho Cluster BD
 WB: Slayer Bit
 LG: Tarantulic LG [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
 HD: Tentrion HD [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  HDAC: Eve Hair Ornament [High Tech Alpha]
  FCAC: Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Boost]
 BS: Beezle BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
 AM: Pacifar AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: Pacifar AM2@
  WP: Magnet Gun
 AM: Pacifar AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: Pacifar AM2@
  WP: Magnet Gun

【Config Check】
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK

【Stats】
TYPE: 空
SIZE: M
COST: 1065
CAPA: 1065
HP: 391
STR: -8
TEC: 21
WLK: 1
FLY: 38
TGH: 13

LEVEL: 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +60×7
Enhance internal weapon×2
Moving Burst

【必要素材】
Fudara Cosmos×12
Red Chip×60
Yellow Chip×50
Stabilizer×9
Turbo Charger×63
Drum Magazine×41
Guide Circuit×7

Drop the slayer bit, it'll give you room for a generic tec tune. Forgot I was going to let str tank when I set that.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyWed May 18, 2011 10:22 pm

No worries Smile

But thanks for the help you two, I'll see about getting this guy rigged up. I hope he's worth all that work though..
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 12:43 am

I strongly recommend you give up the alpha idea, why make a cow do a horse's job?
Psycho Cluster is similar to AG, if you use it as such(as in holding dual bucklers and spamming your Sub from a height advantage) you'll see pretty good results.

With that said, go with Suguri's build as a base, you should add air loop into your build, take out Tentrion head and use Mech Knight head so you can tune for 40 fly.

【Robot Name】
Psycho Cluster

【Parts】
BD: Psycho Cluster BD
 WB: Slayer Bit
 LG: Tarantulic LG [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
 HD:Mech Knight HD [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  HDAC: Eve Hair Ornament [High Tech Alpha]
  FCAC: Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Boost]
 BS: Beezle BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
 AM: Pacifar AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: Pacifar AM2@
  WP: Magnet Gun [Boost]
 AM: Pacifar AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: Pacifar AM2@
  WP: Magnet Gun [Boost]

【Config Check】
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK

【Stats】
TYPE: 空
SIZE: M
COST: 1065
CAPA: 1065
HP: 391
STR: -8
TEC: 20
WLK: 1
FLY: 40
TGH: 13

LEVEL: 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +60×7
Enhance internal weapon×2
Moving Burst
Air Loop

You lose 1 tec, which has absolutely no effect on your overall damage because of rounding.
You lose Tentrion head internal weapons, this is about 5 damage loss at most, it is also the weapon with the worst range so there is a good chance you won't hit with it anyways.

You gain 2 fly, self explanatory.
You gain Air Loop, with is arguably the second most important cartridge for alpha air. It gives you more survivability and allows you to Full Burst longer which more than makes up for the damage you lose from swapping out Tentrion head.

The most important thing is to start leveling it, once you get a feel of the Sub you might want to give up the alpha idea all together.
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This should be in the Guides section.

Prompting admin to move...
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 10:58 am

Suguri,the chatting cosmic break build guide :O
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 7:19 pm

The oddest thing is that I originally was gonna post it here but eh.... Now I know.

And I tinkered with psychocluster, it doesn't feel like a great internal to alpha strike with. The bolts fired from the internal for instance don't line up too well and all 7 won't hit a single target unless it was a ginormous ART... The int also sucks.

Maybe it's better off not to make him an alpha striker, especially since I don't own all of the optimal parts... I should try waiting for one of the other better alpha strikers to make a reappearance...

Thanks for the help anyway guys =X
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 9:38 pm

A better alpha would be XXX raptor if you don't have air raider available. Plus XXX has a good core wep and better core capa and fly than psycho. Plus his core weapon doesn't give your enemies 6 more floaty things to hit.

And then there's the transforming bit which makes him look cool when flying like a busta.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 10:32 pm

Wait whut... That XXX raptor from the sugoi?

THAT THING?

Holy hell @_@ And to think I wasn't looking at my "trash" pile well enough @_@ I gotta find out @_@
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 10:44 pm

>XX Raptor
>junk pile

Why would you do this D: My XX Raptor is my baby and my MVP, I never enter arena without him nowadays.

I finally got a psychocluster.. LnOn5
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 10:49 pm

I had 4 of em cuz of that gara and I love his arms. I junk all of my non used bots (I put them back together when my interest piques in em) just to keep my garages neat and nonscrollydownable. I be neurotic like that.

AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT GUY WAS AN AIR RAIDER ;_; (I was wondering where the XX raptor went though from your profile <----)

I'm not good at recognizing a lot of bot parts out of the bag yet -_-
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 10:56 pm

Suguri wrote:
>XX Raptor
>junk pile

Why would you do this D: My XX Raptor is my baby and my MVP, I never enter arena without him nowadays.


Hmm, I might take quick jump and skip out on that brix BS, but once I roll for a bot with weaponized arms I'm planning on doing the same thing.

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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyThu May 19, 2011 11:01 pm

Oh yeah forgot to say I appreciate you posting your build Suguri. I'll see if I can go ahead and model my XXX raptor after that.

(YAY ANOTHER NON MOE BOT TO BE PUT TO USE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ADORAAABBBLLLEEEEE)

*tinkers away at cosmicalc*

Oh, but what about air loop? It be an expensive upkeep but I've thought about it before on my Crim..and honestly if I'm charging regularly 30 RT is nothing -_-'''

God I hate this game sometimes.
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ngelicdark wrote:
Oh yeah forgot to say I appreciate you posting your build Suguri. I'll see if I can go ahead and model my XXX raptor after that.

(YAY ANOTHER NON MOE BOT TO BE PUT TO USE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ADORAAABBBLLLEEEEE)

*tinkers away at cosmicalc*

Oh, but what about air loop? It be an expensive upkeep but I've thought about it before on my Crim..and honestly if I'm charging regularly 30 RT is nothing -_-'''

God I hate this game sometimes.

Nah, air loop is more for dogfight bots, it plays a minor role for alphafags for being annoying but you won't be shooting while air looping since it screws your aiming, you'll get better results tuning that last 6 fly or combination of tec/fly.
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PostSubject: Re: I finally got a psychocluster..   I finally got a psychocluster.. EmptyFri May 20, 2011 12:10 am

knyx wrote:
A better alpha would be XXX raptor if you don't have air raider available. Plus XXX has a good core wep and better core capa and fly than psycho. Plus his core weapon doesn't give your enemies 6 more floaty things to hit.

And then there's the transforming bit which makes him look cool when flying like a busta.

do u really think that those funnel make a diff at all in being hit NOOOOOOO

also pysho has better range
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ngelicdark wrote:
Oh yeah forgot to say I appreciate you posting your build Suguri. I'll see if I can go ahead and model my XXX raptor after that.

(YAY ANOTHER NON MOE BOT TO BE PUT TO USE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ADORAAABBBLLLEEEEE)

*tinkers away at cosmicalc*

Oh, but what about air loop? It be an expensive upkeep but I've thought about it before on my Crim..and honestly if I'm charging regularly 30 RT is nothing -_-'''

God I hate this game sometimes.

Well Crim doesn't have Moving Burst so it's hard to make use of Air Loop.
The trick is to do an Air Loop during Moving Burst so that your weapons are pointing in the right direction, takes some practice but once you get used to this you will extend your Burst time without having to free fall.
It allows you to get in and out of situation where you would otherwise not be able to, also as mentioned above it helps greatly against other pesky air who try to harass you.
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