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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptySun Apr 24, 2011 5:01 pm

Get shotguns, and piss off fat bots with them.

Off topic: keep skipping beam gaurd kids, I love hitting for full damage with stardust cannons and other beam weaponry.
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@Intet wrote:
Get shotguns, and piss off fat bots with them.

Off topic: keep skipping beam gaurd kids, I love hitting for full damage with stardust cannons and other beam weaponry.

shotguns are weak on anything else lol cause of the range, it's just big fat arts cant dodge...
But if you have hyper shot it turns into a freaking machine gun...

anyways beam guard is pretty useless, unless the other air is a noob, they shouldnt be getting hit by stardust cannon in the first place

the only thing it really protects against is blaster but with people using cross shooter and micro zooka constantly now instead, beam guard is just a cart that increases your overall cost for no benefit.
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@brokita1 wrote:
quick question.

patty lop legs with dual 3s swordwings yes or no? i feel like crim legs have wasted stats...

but with those arms im not sure it would be cost efficient.. :S

so is there a reason why crim is your choice?
A. See topic of "I don't have $5000 to roll until I get x gara prize"
B. Crim LG has nice stats across the board. +2 str +1 tec +2 wlk +3 fly +30 HP at 55 cost? Yes please.
C. They're not the smallest legs, but they aren't that big either.
D. Looping back to B, the +2 wlk +3 fly helps you get to 40 fly without zeroing wlk. The +2 str also makes it easier to not zero str (which is much too easy to do, the current untuned build on mine already has negative str)
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 3:21 pm

@Suguri wrote:
@brokita1 wrote:
quick question.

patty lop legs with dual 3s swordwings yes or no? i feel like crim legs have wasted stats...

but with those arms im not sure it would be cost efficient.. :S

so is there a reason why crim is your choice?
A. See topic of "I don't have $5000 to roll until I get x gara prize"
B. Crim LG has nice stats across the board. +2 str +1 tec +2 wlk +3 fly +30 HP at 55 cost? Yes please.
C. They're not the smallest legs, but they aren't that big either.
D. Looping back to B, the +2 wlk +3 fly helps you get to 40 fly without zeroing wlk. The +2 str also makes it easier to not zero str (which is much too easy to do, the current untuned build on mine already has negative str)

yea i zerod walk on my XX and found it was needed, since it sucks when getting to max height is impossible then

however, at 40 fly i don't notice much change from 35+, oh well

ill try it out. im still having trouble finding good weps for this guy more than anything.
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 9:40 pm

@suguri

where do you get the info of Cross raptor XX BD with core upgrade ?
i don't see it update at Jp wiki atm Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 10:39 pm

I have my own Raptor for checking these things.
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@Suguri wrote:
I have my own Raptor for checking these things.

so core upgrade made it increased in dmg, speed and range ?
if it does i think it's a must
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 25, 2011 11:10 pm

+2 force +40 ammo +20 range +10 speed for each internal, I'd say it's very worth it.
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 26, 2011 3:18 am

Those cross raptor AM got shield isn't it
anyone know how much Hp does those shield have ?
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 26, 2011 3:35 am

They shield your arm against part damage, not physical bot damage, ie. they will break first instead of your actual arm.
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 26, 2011 4:12 am

Me thinks its somewhere between 30-50.
Takes about 3-4 hits by a wide beam gun if i remember correctly...
Course it might have taken some hits before hand.
I was chasing this guy one time with them... And yesh I know I can use plasma gun but I like low cost wide beam gun and I dont know how to aim properly... (course if I did I would be spamming beam rifle, right now bgales red just rotting in garage waiting for me to use him)
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^What is this I don't even.
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Max cost with so many slots left?
You're doing the wrong tunes
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@xzpwnz wrote:
Max cost with so many slots left?
You're doing the wrong tunes

not everyone have money to spam slot protector like you do Neutral
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@xzpwnz wrote:
Max cost with so many slots left?
You're doing the wrong tunes
No, XX Raptor's capacity is really that bad.

@SkyPanic wrote:
@xzpwnz wrote:
Max cost with so many slots left?
You're doing the wrong tunes

not everyone have money to spam slot protector like you do Neutral
Just farm them now, I've got six stocked up from the levelup campaign and counting.
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PostSubject: Re: XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not?   XX cross raptor as alpha striker - viable or not? - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 27, 2011 12:23 pm

Here's mine. Keep in mind that I don't have Percival arms, and the use of Mach Knight legs is to maintain the bot's original form.

【Robot Name】
XX Cross Raptor

【Parts】
BD: Cross Raptor BD3
 WB: Slayer Bit/Prop Bit (I'll interchange between these)
 LG: Mach Knight LG [Great Boost Gamma] [Tough] [Tough]
 HD: Tentrion HD [Force] [Shooter] [Tech]
  HDAC: Tenko Mask
  FCAC: Intelli Green
 BS: Cross Raptor BS [Great Boost Gamma] [Great Boost Gamma] [Great Boost Gamma]
 AM: Cross Raptor AM
  WP: Beam Gun [Force]
 AM: Cross Raptor AM
  WP: Beam Gun [Force]

【Config Check】
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK

【Stats】
TYPE: 空
SIZE: S
COST: 1005
CAPA: 1010
HP: 355
STR: 2
TEC: 15
WLK: 4
FLY: 38
TGH: 4

LEVEL: 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×5
Enhance internal weapon×2
Quick Boost
Quick Jump
Moving Burst

【必要素材】
Hidora Cosmos×3
Midoro Cosmos×4
Ones Cosmos×3
Threede Cosmos×1
Rainbow Chip×15
Stabilizer×5
Turbo Charger×36
Brake Damper×10
Strike Metal×12
Scope Lens×13
Rapid Crystal×33
Drum Magazine×12
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@Suguri wrote:
@xzpwnz wrote:
Max cost with so many slots left?
You're doing the wrong tunes
No, XX Raptor's capacity is really that bad.
[/quote]Can't be any worse than psycho cluster
Anyways -5 str? You must be using the wrong tunes
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@xzpwnz wrote:
@Suguri wrote:
@xzpwnz wrote:
Max cost with so many slots left?
You're doing the wrong tunes
No, XX Raptor's capacity is really that bad.
Can't be any worse than psycho cluster[/quote]
Barely better, he only has 10 more capacity than Psycho Cluster after all capacity carts. And his core str and wlk are so bad that you can easily send them negative without even tuning.
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Just wanted to comment on this.
@Rinrin wrote:
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Each to his own then.

well i just wouldnt rly get beam guard cos its rare for ppl to use beam against other airs now o.O
most ppl just use mini zooks.
Enjoy getting hit for 60+ by my 40 tec 40 fly SDCfag. Get Beam Guard if you have the extra capa, because if you're getting hit with a mini zook on a constant basis with 35+ fly and a SMALL air type even, then you're playing your shit wrong and should probably stick to dem jikuns. You're much more likely to get hit by faster beam weapons such as ABRs than you are by other airs with mini zooks if you play your cards right.
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@Intet wrote:


Off topic: keep skipping beam gaurd kids, I love hitting for full damage with stardust cannons and other beam weaponry.

this cause non of my airs use mini zooks that 60 dmg a hit serions hd 40 dmg a hit star dust with geograssis keep on not using beam gaurd Cool Cool
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ITT: My e-penis > your beam-guard-less e-penis.

Survival against air alphas is probably the only thing that'd justify beam guard on Air, SDC users bored enough to focus on dogfights and other non-zooka air units are not a common sight and do not warrant a cart against them.
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@reVelske wrote:
ITT: My e-penis > your beam-guard-less e-penis.

Survival against air alphas is probably the only thing that'd justify beam guard on Air, SDC users bored enough to focus on dogfights and other non-zooka air units are not a common sight and do not warrant a cart against them.

u do have a point there what kinda air goes after airs i use my airs to go after art and lands air on air takes a while for some one to win lol
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@boytitan2 wrote:

what kinda air goes after airs

Anyone with a mini zooka. Air is the best anti-air, if you aren't prioritizing the enemy air units you see with your zooka'd air, then you are a terrible team player and is putting rest of your team at the mercy of a Seraph wing'd piece of crap or a cheesing Aquila Girl.
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@reVelske wrote:
@boytitan2 wrote:

what kinda air goes after airs

Anyone with a mini zooka. Air is the best anti-air, if you aren't prioritizing the enemy air units you see with your zooka'd air, then you are a terrible team player and is putting rest of your team at the mercy of a Seraph wing'd piece of crap or a cheesing Aquila Girl.

No Im pretty sure eve is best anti anything
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Slayer Bits still stun EVEs. It's completely possible for any air - particularly one with Adone LG - to take out an EVE 1v1 as long as they land a hit with a slayer bit. The fight's still in EVE's favor, but it's not completely stacked.
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