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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:08 pm
Fluer ur literally implying using untuned broken shit doesnt make them broken...
And implying homora isnt op but she killable LMAFO
Higichi Betrayed Abbey
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:09 pm
commando of the week for meh ....
Spoiler:
alice , aletta , homo , baphoe , thoarla , i don't have them and i'm happy
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:25 pm
contentment is an inexhaustible treasure indeed
Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:50 pm
Takes one's lacking of something to know one's lacking of something, doesn't it?
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:54 pm
I'd totally Trade my Alices, Homuras and Baphos away for some bots, gimme all the Resha (Go away, I don't care, I still want her), Nicole that I lack and a Munya, OH WAIT WE CAN'T TRADE SHIT.
Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:11 pm
I have a hella lotta bots I'd trade for others, ie: Berz girl, homura, lumeria holx, aletta, etc. I'm not using.
Maelstrom Chased By Police
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:18 pm
At this point, Homura is just a normal bot for me. I doubt anyone here really have any real issues against her at the current meta.
btw, my most used bots atm are: Karin, Mercurio, Minaria, Killica, Thoarla Magion and Monica LEADER.
Fairlion Persenachia
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:03 pm
Considering Im still able to beat 1k6 cost Lasker with my homura (untuned - Lv4), I will say yes, real issue.
Btw, time to build Serieux commando (got 3rd one today)
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:05 pm
Someone who runs a 1.6k cost Lasker is probably dumb, so that doesn't count...
I would say she is just annoying to deal with regular melees, but "everything" else can fuck her in the ass, pretty much like monigga LEADER, but at least monigga can deal some heavy damage to airs...
Shidokun Denied Abbey
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:42 pm
Maelstrom wrote:
Someone who runs a 1.6k cost Lasker is probably dumb, so that doesn't count...
I would say she is just annoying to deal with regular melees, but "everything" else can fuck her in the ass, pretty much like monigga LEADER, but at least monigga can deal some heavy damage to airs...
OOPS
Well, I actually got rekt by the increasing beris in UW lel. I mean she's stationary when she grabs ppl, the perfect opportunity for beri to strike.
Fleur Adept Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:42 pm
Maelstrom wrote:
At this point, Homura is just a normal bot for me. I doubt anyone here really have any real issues against her at the current meta.
Pretty much.
♦ Alice? She can hit Homura waaaaaaaaay before she is on Homura's range thanks to Alice's long-range self buff. Plus Alice anti-homing, speed-up makes her almost impossible to hit with her slashes (yes, even after you tune it with speed/range).
♦ Aletta? She has a tuneable part that gives her Vainic and full boost recovery. And glide boost.
♦ Zero-Thoarla? She can literally charge in front of Homura with her shield-barrier on and kill it without losing a single HP point.
CS has released so many broken AIRs with abilities no AIR should have that homura is not as effective as she used to be. But somehow, the problem is using a homura, not these AIRs with broken abilities that destroy the balance.
I'll be fair and say that before these 3 bots homura was amazing (one of the best ART you could have) and could kill the best air of the time (henrierre) with ease.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:58 pm
Thats basically saying that homo is okey and is not OP at all to use in UW because C$ released SOME more cancer op shet than homo to use.
Oh I also have checked sum random CL vids, seems C$ already bought up a god tier bot Heca. It looks even worse than zero Thoarla in CB because it litterly has no weakness lel.
Fleur Adept Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:23 pm
Shidokun wrote:
Thats basically saying that homo is okey and is not OP at all to use in UW because C$ released SOME more cancer op shet than homo to use.
Eh...that's how it works?
Everyone consider what's OP or not based on the bots abilities and how they fare in combat compared to other bots.
I already said Homura was amazing before these 3 bots came.
In a game that is flooded with Alice/Zero-thoarla/Aletta getting "the game warrior", "gunslinger" and "destroyer" award and 1st battle place with no kills all the time (SPECIALLY alice) you can't really say Homura is OP.
Shidokun wrote:
Oh I also have checked sum random CL vids, seems C$ already bought up a god tier bot Heca. It looks even worse than zero Thoarla in CB because it litterly has no weakness lel.
Amazing how i have literally no idea what you said.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:28 pm
Fleur wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:
At this point, Homura is just a normal bot for me. I doubt anyone here really have any real issues against her at the current meta.
Pretty much.
♦ Alice? She can hit Homura waaaaaaaaay before she is on Homura's range thanks to Alice's long-range self buff. Plus Alice anti-homing, speed-up makes her almost impossible to hit with her slashes (yes, even after you tune it with speed/range).
♦ Aletta? She has a tuneable part that gives her Vainic and full boost recovery. And glide boost.
♦ Ex-Thoarla? She can literally charge in front of Homura with her shield-barrier on and kill it without losing a single HP point.
CS has released so many broken AIRs with abilities no AIR should have that homura is not as effective as she used to be. But somehow, the problem is using a homura, not these AIRs with broken abilities that destroy the balance.
I'll be fair and say that before these 3 bots homura was amazing (one of the best ART you could have) and could kill the best air of the time (henrierre) with ease.
Even Minaria can shit on her, charge delay fucks her pretty hard, henrierre bits can block her shoots, she can't do shit against bikers, mercurio just eat her alive, shred shotgun and other decent gunners too, and even the regular melees can deal with her once they get used to her decoy bullshit or if she is already busy dealing with something else (as I said, she is mostly annoying against them), also from experience I can say that anything that outranges her can easily deal with her (I kill them with my steel burn am3 thoarla magion) and there's also things like diggaius, who is being pretty common these days. That besides the other current bullshits that were already listed...
I really can't understand why ppl still complain about her, she is nothing more than a normal bot imo...
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:32 pm
Fleur wrote:
Shidokun wrote:
Oh I also have checked sum random CL vids, seems C$ already bought up a god tier bot Heca. It looks even worse than zero Thoarla in CB because it litterly has no weakness lel.
Amazing how i have literally no idea what you said.
You know what a Heca is right? Hecatorcles, an alpha bot. See it yourself, seems the guy is complaining about indo lage.
Fleur Adept Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:12 pm
Shidokun wrote:
Fleur wrote:
Shidokun wrote:
Oh I also have checked sum random CL vids, seems C$ already bought up a god tier bot Heca. It looks even worse than zero Thoarla in CB because it litterly has no weakness lel.
Amazing how i have literally no idea what you said.
You know what a Heca is right? Hecatorcles, an alpha bot. See it yourself, seems the guy is complaining about indo lage.
Oh.
CL = CosmicLeague.
I forgot that garbage existed. CS somehow managed to make a more P2W broken game.
I quitted that shitfest close after beta, when RT moebots could get 35 kills in a row.
I would be surprised if CS manages to make an ART that can somehow kill Alice/Zero-thoarla/Aletta with ease. I doubt it since CS seems to love broken, flawless AIRs dominating rooms in CS.
A card campaign starts tomorrow if i remember correctly.
Which team wins or loses will be decided by the number of Thoarlas and Alices on a team.
Maelstrom Chased By Police
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:16 pm
easy
>buff moray explosion to reliaby hit thoarlas >remove the stun/knock up/whatever against LNDs >nerf Aletta because she is dumb
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:26 pm
Fleur wrote:
Shidokun wrote:
Thats basically saying that homo is okey and is not OP at all to use in UW because C$ released SOME more cancer op shet than homo to use.
Eh...that's how it works?
Everyone consider what's OP or not based on the bots abilities and how they fare in combat compared to other bots.
I already said Homura was amazing before these 3 bots came.
In a game that is flooded with Alice/Zero-thoarla/Aletta getting "the game warrior", "gunslinger" and "destroyer" award and 1st battle place with no kills all the time (SPECIALLY alice) you can't really say Homura is OP.
Shidokun wrote:
Oh I also have checked sum random CL vids, seems C$ already bought up a god tier bot Heca. It looks even worse than zero Thoarla in CB because it litterly has no weakness lel.
Amazing how i have literally no idea what you said.
You can still say she's OP because the game doesn't only have 4 moes. You've become prey to CS's scheme, their powercreep exists to generate money and lead people into error, "If we create something even more broken, everything that preceded it won't be broken anymore", that's what they do, that's what you think, and it's wrong.
You don't just compare the bots on top and figure out if they are broken or not depending on which is higher, bots are broken when they are on top to start with, who's the bitch standing higher doesn't matter, they are all a problem and broken in some way.
Also, please lets not do shit arguments like naming bots or weapons to say that something isn't broken, because you are saying that it is indeed broken and most likely are naming things that aren't very fair themselves. It's like how Elma 2 days ago popped in arena and said something along the lines of "where's all the Lisels from the forums?", which is how it feels like every single time someone names shit to counter shit, "I-i-it's not like it's a problem or anything but where's all this X or Y slayers?"
If you want to say something isn't broken, you look at it, go through every single thing it does and if there are to be any comparisons, it should be between characteristics, not between broken bots. And please don't include shit that tends to happen mostly due to lag, because I seriously doubt she can "shit on her" unless the Homura has an inferior build (less range than the Minaria for example so the Homura has trouble landing hits), it's a player that is shit at using Homura, or the Minaria lags like no tomorrow, because nothing that Minaria does will shit on her, not on a bot that has a weapon that completely ignores facing direction, moretheless in a Many VS Many situation (and Minaria isn't even a "normal" bot due to her buff being so ridiculous, rather to be REALLY good she either needs lag or to become a boring bot, and no one likes a boring bot, but when she becomes good she's ridiculous).
Nothing needs buffs, nothing needs to exist to kill Thoarlas, all we need is nerfs, all the nerfs. The moment you release more broken bots or buff weapons that are already good you are basically making everyone else's life worse and making viable content even more limited, but if you nerf the problematic stuff, all the content becomes more relevant, and only the really shitty things will require buffs (much like how Resha initially completely killed single weapon non rapid fire airs because they couldn't affect her fast enough while alphas would melt her barrier extremely fast. After nerfing her barrier more airs became slightly more viable at killing her, high damage low RoF weren't entirely cockblocked, more content became viable and more variety was possible without going through hell and not having fun).
Still, I'd accept the Homura not being tuned excuse faster than I'd accept A_Hero's (or A_Scumbag) excuse for using Aletta because "she's untuned", which implies that it's alright to use her as he uses that excuse when someone points out how bullshit Aletta is. You are only being a worse scumbag by excusing yourself when there's no excuse.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:40 pm
the moray buff thing I said was more like a balance to be fair, since it already also included a deserved and necessary nerf...
Okay, the "minaria can shit on her" thing was just me exaggerating a bit, but from experience, I can tell that she can fight homura pretty well unless if she has 356 teamates around her. No, I don't lag that hard. The Homuras being bad? Maybe... Minaria can hit Homura harder than Homura hits her and the anti-homo + slow turn helps a lot.
Homura is not even that good as an anti-air, she is just annoying while other non broken arts easily outclasses her at this...
Frizz Busted
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:52 pm
CB2 moes here when?
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:23 pm
Maelstrom wrote:
the moray buff thing I said was more like a balance to be fair, since it already also included a deserved and necessary nerf...
Okay, the "minaria can shit on her" thing was just me exaggerating a bit, but from experience, I can tell that she can fight homura pretty well unless if she has 356 teamates around her. No, I don't lag that hard. The Homuras being bad? Maybe... Minaria can hit Homura harder than Homura hits her and the anti-homo + slow turn helps a lot.
Homura is not even that good as an anti-air, she is just annoying while other non broken arts easily outclasses her at this...
To balance Moray it only needs nerfs, nothing else.
I wish Eleanore was as good as Homura at anti air, if she was she would be broken, sadly she's not. The only reason I see Homura to be bad at anti air is for airs to have longer ranges or the Homura just being bad and not use her tools correctly.
Sakura1 Crab
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:31 pm
ur literally comparing homora to other gay shit by saying gayer shit out there makes her not so gay.
again shit logic.
homora is dumb, might not be top gay anymore but that doesnt defeat the point of her being able to shit high amount of dmg by just clicking her left button. ( inb4 >other shit deal higher dps )
beside the point homora is still gay untuned or tuned. your using her doesnt make u any worse then alice/thoarla/aletta/bapho so stop saying she a isnt " as broken as b4 " dat still doesnt change the fact she can shit on anything she shoots
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:33 pm
On my part, I will end this discussion here, but just to be clear, I still don't agree.
Sakura1 Crab
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:37 pm
Maelstrom wrote:
On my part, I will end this discussion here, but just to be clear, I still don't agree.
if u agree or not isnt the point since u wasnt the one who started the conversation so u cant entirely end something u never started.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:41 pm
Sakura1 wrote:
if u agree or not isnt the point since u wasnt the one who started the conversation so u cant entirely end something u never started.
Maelstrom wrote:
On my part, I will end this discussion here, but just to be clear, I still don't agree.
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