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Posts : 1712 Join date : 2015-04-12 Location : DASD
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:59 pm
fggt wrote:
GasaiYunoº wrote:
fggt wrote:
http://puu.sh/ir0Cn.png
Never known this exists:v How does it work anw?
from what i remember seeing from people using it in haku you place it and people from your team right click it and they get teleported to you
The description confused me so I thought it is smth else, yea I saw it quite a lot in haku too. _______
NeedCheeseCake wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:
airs are the best thing for arcantus due to their free mobility...
if you actually play the game mode, melles are the best due to high damage and being near the items when they drop. pursuit bits are unreliable and make picking up items more frantic due to the bits killing things both behind you and far away. also melees can hit for 2000+ damage and 2hit enemies after area 90 if you farm enough boosts, whereas any gunner will spinstun the enemy, do less damage, and have tgh reduction.
>Implying a sword stun less than a gun >Implying melee wont make you be more vulnerable from mobs/bosses.
There're lot of things that can out-damage melee, like alphags, while can still keep a safe distance from mobs/bosses.
melee still spin stuns, alpas just have to: 1. Consume ammo 2. Manually lockon to mobs, so wut? 3. Constantly land in said danger zone to pickup items.
Whereas melee units can: 1. Easily spin stun a mob and kill enemies in 2-3 hits. 2. Have easy item access. 3. Attack multiple enemies.
I think you forgot that spin stunning gives an enemy immune frames so you'll waste ammo and time using alphas than melees. I uploaded plenty of my dumb arcantus videos as proof tho idc tbh.
God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:24 pm
The ability of a melee to attack multiple enemies is comparable to an alpha attacking an enemy and hitting others around it (which you can build towards that with certain weapons/cores). Some melee do it as collateral, others do it because of their range (or AoE), some alpha setups do it as collateral (weapon splash hits units that run into it or are hugging each others) or because of the AoE/piercing capabilities (alpha airs for chaos room [for example] tend to be really good with blasters because of the piercing, shotguns have nice damage/cost but can easily lose DPS because of other people/random mobs, blasters can deal less damage but are more reliable because they will pierce players/mobs).
Perse/Nicole bits will just attack everything in range/sight, so it will attack multiple enemies most of the time, and get it done before you get near them (so you just need to pick the items).
It's all about choosing between running towards every enemy, mash right click and accidentally right click the drop or walk over it to pick it, or have your bits kill everything and walk up to the items while the bits keep killing things. They are actually pretty even because of how what one does worse, the other does better, and it goes both ways. Melee can deal really high damage, but needs to be on their face, bits do less damage (per hit though, DPS can still be pretty high) but starts damaging things from further away and attacks multiple things in different ranges.
Melee can virtually last longer than bit units like Nicole/Perse because they have no ammo needs, but since you can only stay 10 minutes per area and changing area restores ammo, those bit units basically doesn't have to worry about ammo, more the less when you can bring ammo packs (also, Perse x Stun).
Fleur Adept Poster
Posts : 822 Join date : 2015-04-18
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:58 pm
I have been wondering for some time, but what does the E.V.E on Lily E.V.E means?
When she was released Eve wasn't really known, she was just mysterious girl who gave lily the powers, so everyone thought E.V.E meant something.
But it seems Eve was the name of the mysterious girl, making the acronym quite a mystery.
NeedCheeseCake Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2015-04-12 Location : DASD
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:00 pm
I've used /every/ type of robot in arcantus, and melee is generally the most efficient. How can you guys not play a game mode then judge it. I used pers in further areas, it takes VERY long to kill mobs, let alone single enemies.
Again, you'll spin stun everything. Keep that in mind.
Frizz Busted
Posts : 2029 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 38 Location : Angel Academy
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:24 pm
someone01 wrote:
I have been wondering for some time, but what does the E.V.E on Lily E.V.E means?
When she was released Eve wasn't really known, she was just mysterious girl who gave lily the powers, so everyone thought E.V.E meant something.
But it seems Eve was the name of the mysterious girl, making the acronym quite a mystery.
Entropic Vector Energizer.
Skulkraken Regular Poster
Posts : 386 Join date : 2010-07-19 Age : 38
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:31 pm
What I like about using melee in Arcantus is that it's less vulnerable to Shell Drain. That crap can get annoying since some zones are fond of having that miniboss that drains with every melee hit spawn right next to you.
fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 33 Location : A certain boss's room
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:45 pm
NeedCheeseCake wrote:
How can you guys not play a game mode then judge it.
Wow did you set a spy cam in my room or smth lmao?
VietPho Always Drunk
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-12-19
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:54 pm
VeryMelon wrote:
Tuned GRapid on Misty Raven Grim.
Still can't hit shit with her.
she is tricky to play you have to aim with her
Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:23 am
Quote :
The psyguns aren't really that great
beam psyguns are great.
fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 33 Location : A certain boss's room
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:41 am
Nora's acrobat shot now hit like a fuking truck.
Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:02 am
stop buffing things 2015
Shidokun Denied Abbey
Posts : 994 Join date : 2015-04-06 Location : The land of Nether
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:03 am
I wasn't expecting that Nora's buff also gave her a parry effect to her counter. Oh
No Dieranarcam buff? eh
fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 33 Location : A certain boss's room
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:11 am
One of my shot actually hit that Ivis for 70+:v
Shidokun Denied Abbey
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:14 am
fggt wrote:
One of my shot actually hit that Ivis for 70+:v
That was prob because she didnt had any CV on her.
Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 37 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:20 am
CV is not a dmg reduction effect. I guess they just made it another dumb shell weapon.
@Topic: i knew I forgot to do something when I logged out lat night, but I couldn't remember. Now I realied that I had like 100 Maple coins left...oh well~
Shidokun Denied Abbey
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:31 am
Zwiebel Force wrote:
CV is not a dmg reduction effect. I guess they just made it another dumb shell weapon.
@Topic: i knew I forgot to do something when I logged out lat night, but I couldn't remember. Now I realied that I had like 100 Maple coins left...oh well~
CV isn't but all guard is, we were talking about Ivis. o wo
Actually....I think CV does reduce the amount of dmg she gets. Nora's dps comes from her impact rifle's stun which deals additional dmg to a bot. (Not tested it yet but I usually deal more dmg to non CV units)
God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:17 am
What.
I'm not sure why you correct someone, to only then forget about that very same thing.
There is a very small number of bots (like 2 or 3), that have CV but not all guard (this is ignoring CV from guards). If a bot gets CV from a revenge tune, they get all guard.
You are also lagging so badly in that video that her counter isn't even working correctly.
I'm not the biggest fan of her counter buff. Distance buff? Cool. Direction change? Rather meh. Before you would jump to the direction you were running to, but now you jump backwards. Basically, it's better if you are fighting some melee and it hits, so it makes you jump back and puts you in a fighting position again, but you can't use it to avoid fighting them, because if you get hit in the back, unlike before you will be jump back, towards them (before you would just keep running), it might work to confuse them, but hopefully you aren't trying to avoid their whole team as well. She also loses all momentum now, while before you would just keep running.
It's better for face to face combat, but worse if the enemy team is in your back.
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colfenor1337 Ace Poster
Posts : 1868 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 33 Location : Malaysia
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:22 am
Can sm1 please check if Dieranarcam get the buff? ;A;
God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:34 am
colfenor1337 wrote:
Can sm1 please check if Dieranarcam get the buff? ;A;
Yes.
Shidokun Denied Abbey
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:38 am
God is a Cat Girl wrote:
What.
I'm not sure why you correct someone, to only then forget about that very same thing.
There is a very small number of bots (like 2 or 3), that have CV but not all guard (this is ignoring CV from guards). If a bot gets CV from a revenge tune, they get all guard.
My point is that we were talking about Ivis. Yah,I forgot to mention All guard but its Ivis we are talking about, I'm sure almost all ivis users have 2x EIW which gives her all guard.
Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:58 am
got slut protector omega from login *-----*
God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:03 am
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Actually....I think CV does reduce the amount of dmg she gets. Nora's dps comes from her impact rifle's stun which deals additional dmg to a bot. (Not tested it yet but I usually deal more dmg to non CV units)
It went from Ivis to CV Units, and from talking about all guard to saying that CV reduces damage.
CV and All Guard are 2 different things, but things like Ivis and revenge tunes get them both.
There is bots that get CV but not all guard (again, not mentioning guards, and other things like Volt BS). Abyss Hu and Dracken are 2 examples (unless CS just decided to hide the symbol, but reduction isn't mentioned anywhere). Aside from those 2 bots (and at least 1 more I belive), if bots get a buff from revenge tunes or it's things like Ivis, any weapon will deal less damage because there's all guard as well. This includes clearance and hypershot revenge as well.
LazFlamme (?) About Bastagant
Posts : 3099 Join date : 2013-06-17 Age : 24 Location : Ground Area
Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:20 am
I'm throwing a random question here: How do I Rinka no-scope?
And here I thought CV only prevents stun.
God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:24 am
LazFlamme wrote:
I'm throwing a random question here: How do I Rinka no-scope?
And here I thought CV only prevents stun.
You don't, unless you glitch her.
And that's what CV does.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:25 am
Ah, my question should be if (hard)stun deals additional dmg to non CV units. I just had a feeling that the stun from the rifle deals more dmg.
Assumption:
So in short: Nora's dps = force + stun(?)
Why did i think that stun actually does add the total dmg dealt to a bot: - Nora's first hits actually can deal around 70-80 dmg per burst (2 rifle hits) and sometimes it just hits like 40-50. <-- Because this happened in area, its not accurate ofc. - I never had a higher dps than 45-50 against CV units (not ivis). Against Ivis I always hit shet dmg on her. (Not acrobatic shot cuz it was kinda shet at that time)
We all know that CV protects you from being stunned. So.... dmg on CV = Force
In other words, I think that CV reduce the dmg that you get from the stun. Well since I haven't tested or read something about that. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to just say it directly.
-30min later-
After testing I came to the conclusion that CV does not reduce any dmg what so ever. However her impact gun does still push CV units which I didnt rlly expect. The counter prob got glitched in the previous vid because of lag(?). Well I tested it again and whut yah know, its parry + noras normal counter (restricted to jump backwards) which is still.... meh but hey! you still have something to stop derp melees (cc+)/CV units to rip your fucking face off.
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