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fggt wrote:: Tested Koyomi after completing cards (alpha), and...why did ppl say she is bad again? I feel like she is completely fine, at least as a free bot.

Her only problem is the lack of boost run, but isnt hard to deal with it...

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Maelstrom wrote:

fggt wrote:: Tested Koyomi after completing cards (alpha), and...why did ppl say she is bad again? I feel like she is completely fine, at least as a free bot.

Her only problem is the lack of boost run, but isnt hard to deal with it...

koyomi have boost run plox

saya/himari are far more better than this koyomi
im too lazy to type how bad of koyomi again , so find it yourself

How do I survive walking after running out of Boost Run juice.

I DX coined a Haruka.

Adept Poster Posts : 789 Join date : 2013-05-12

you need to manage it before it run out

LazFlamme wrote:: How do I survive walking after running out of Boost Run juice.

I DX coined a Haruka.

Eco Boost Run + makes a difference

Isdelft wrote:: you need to manage it before it run out

Relict? wrote:: Eco Boost Run + makes a difference

Run and stop and run, huh?

Adept Poster Posts : 789 Join date : 2013-05-12

speak of eco boost run , i forget to include display bug for this core tune , mayb next time

(i send ticket to cs yesterday)

Jikun Hu Posts : 1147 Join date : 2011-10-28 Age : 38

fggt wrote:: Tested Koyomi after completing cards (alpha), and...why did ppl say she is bad again? I feel like she is completely fine, at least as a free bot.

You mean aside from the fact that using her mechanics is a pain in the ass because her weapons are shit, and that in the end her support barely matters and the bits get destroyed after the target takes 2 hits? And if you lose your bit you have to grind the fortune level back up with the shitty weapons again.

Her main is a fucking cross shooter.

E: she doesn't even have Tough WB cart. Seriously, who designed this?

Isdelft wrote:

Maelstrom wrote:

fggt wrote:: Tested Koyomi after completing cards (alpha), and...why did ppl say she is bad again? I feel like she is completely fine, at least as a free bot.

Her only problem is the lack of boost run, but isnt hard to deal with it...

koyomi have boost run plox

saya/himari are far more better than this koyomi
im too lazy to type how bad of koyomi again , so find it yourself.

There's always another choice that is fly based hop (and roll).
All her weapons are decent, things like forced stun+push back or shock cant even be found on some lnd/art gunner
Bit effects are outdated, but you can just not use it (or just think of it as a bonus).

Saying her bad becuz she is worse than other bots are the most stupid thing, especially when their roles are completely different.

fggt wrote:

Isdelft wrote:

Maelstrom wrote:: Her only problem is the lack of boost run, but isnt hard to deal with it...

koyomi have boost run plox

saya/himari are far more better than this koyomi
im too lazy to type how bad of koyomi again , so find it yourself.

There's always another choice that is fly based hop (and roll).
All her weapons are decent, things like forced stun+push back or shock cant even be found on some lnd/art gunner
Bit effects are outdated, but you can just not use it (or just think of it as a bonus).

Saying her bad becuz she is worse than other bots are the most stupid thing, especially when their roles are completely different.

She's not bad because she is worse than other bots, she's bad because she does have plenty of flaws, too many actually.
Her sub particularly, is as reliable as Nutz BS.
The comparison isn't that stupid when you say that she's fine because she's free. Saya/Himari had plenty of flaws that tend to not be present in some newer bots, but it was "okay" because it was "free". I can't say about Himari since I don't have her, but Saya at first makes it pretty obvious that she has plenty of flaws, some are just bad coding, some are there because CS wanted them to be there, which is fine. But later once you know how/when/where to use her, she's a rather fine bot. Not broken, kinda silly when certain conditions are met (enough altitude, no arts to counter her, no hurricanes close by to carry enemies to your height), but still good at doing what she should. Her flaws are manageable because they are to give her a function, this is, she's good at bombing the enemy, but she can't do everything because her flaws doesn't allow her too, which is fine.
Now, Koyomi isn't like that. Her flaws doesn't make it so she can't do everything or counter her broken aspects, her flaws prevent her from doing what she should do efficiently, and her performance falls so low, that there is better options, even if they don't perform the same things. It's not that every bot has to be broken, but they should at least, even if they are free, perform what they are meant to in a "timely" way, with the flaws preventing them from being broken and doing everything (bots that do everything can be rather broken as well, and everything can also mean counter the counter), which isn't her case at all, her flaws prevent her basic functions.

The game also doesn't reward her accordingly even if she does well. Usually, even if it felt like you had a good match with her, the scoreboard can show a really bad figure, and this will turn off most players right away, because it doesn't feel like they are being "rewarded" for their effort, and it's not easy to say if bots like her are actually doing well, and the scoreboard just makes matters worse. That just takes out any satisfaction when you are already using a bot that can be increasingly frustrating to use.

But yeah, every turd is good because it's "free".

I actually see no reason to use her if it's not to actually use her bit and try, yeah, try, to disable melees, while trying to hit enemies to give buffs. Because there's plenty of older supports that can do what she does (or not) without the bit, and maybe even better, since the 2 gimmick weapons that she has, only work on close ranges (the main stun can hit if you are lucky at longer ranges), and her sub tends to derp a lot, without being spam'able.
And the only reason to do that is if you have nothing else to use.
If you got things like Amy (and Azure, white is just... special), Trintia (you can just L Zooka that and do damage and heal yourself and those around you), Buff Deva (good at shooting things in some cases, struggles with just the main in many other cases), Pepo Torte (no range disable, but has area denial, good to camp corners still, doesn't shock but stuns and steals items), etc, there's very little reason to use Koyomi without her bit, because even if they don't have the same exact abilities, those bots are mostly reliable, Koyomi isn't, not until they fix some things that make her unreliable, like her sub having tracking but no lock, and the tracking feels like melee tracking, you never know if it's tracking, and some times when the enemy is on the place where it explodes without tracking, she decides that the enemy isn't there and shoots it somewhere else.

She has a nice concept, but CS not putting any effort on her made it so her synergy doesn't really work in practice.
I have a hard time even considering her a decent bot. I want to, but after using her for a little while and saw a million things that shouldn't be there, gimping her, it's just hard to. I like the bot, but she really needs some good fixing to be in a place that you can actually say that you want to use her instead of a million other bots that can deliver satisfying results.
And I don't believe she has to be this way because she was "free". She's free through an event, otherwise she's still a gara unit, but even then, ignoring the gara part, I don't think you need to give gimped units because it's free, do note I'm not saying they should be handling Homuras and shit left and right, no, actually, I don't even believe they should exist in the way they do, but free shouldn't mean "it's below average" or "no matter what, it's decent because it's free". At the very least, it shouldn't feel either completely gimped or incomplete. Hell, there's F2P games that give really nice content on events, because it's not just free, it's an event. Some times the event content is even better than the free or even paid every day content.

With all that being said, Koyomi really could use some fixing, not to be turned into superman, but at least let her be... Robin? I actually don't know super heroes that much, sorry.

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i better play old winberrl if i know this waste my time and effort

and yes , she have a VERY NICE concept , but the field test is meh

eh? did that crystal throwing have tracking? , i think it just go straight and explode

Isdelft wrote:: i better play old winberrl if i know this waste my time and effort

and yes , she have a VERY NICE concept , but the field test is meh

eh? did that crystal throwing have tracking? , i think it just go straight and explode

It tracks horizontally, but either rarely tracks vertically or has 0 verticality (never saw it doing it, and missed people right in the place where it explodes because I was on a slope and so was higher than the enemy). The tracking isn't that good, because you never know when it will work, it's nice when it tracks and hits the enemy that you would otherwise miss, but it's terrible when she shoots it somewhere else when the enemy was on the exact place where it explodes without the tracking.

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Isdelft wrote:: crystal orb can break , so fragile , same like my heart ...

Isdelft wrote:: mfw koyomi is far more worst shit than i expected , she isnt worth my tune mats at all

Edit:
-her crystal shoot cant hit shit even more 15% speed
-her blow crystal is fucked
-her crystal strike even more fucked
-and her bit just only have one job > the ~~1hp~~ 5hp , some1 said that meatshield
and cant buff with wonder balancer or flune

only good thing is you got her bs ... (acc with 1tec1tgh is kinda ... useless)

Isdelft wrote:

Chαrlσttє ♥ wrote:: She is okay.. it's just her support system is terrible < /3

a support with bad support system ...

Edit:
to get broad radar support you need to hit enemy like 10 times (or blow crystal? like 2 times)
but with those thing cant hit any shit and her bits only have ~~1hp~~ 5hp , some1 said that

how can i say she is good

only things i like about her is her model and that bs

Isdelft wrote:: yes i have high expectations for koyomi
well but atleast i need her to more useful than this
i not wish for broken bot cause it not fun , but too much weak is not fun at all too

her main crystal shoot have so small hitbox and with those weak homing ,
why they cant just make it non-homing and it will better

when i have too much expectation for something

well as he said , she is in gara , but performance-wise is ... mayb bronze or red tier ? ...

The 5HP = 5 hits on the bit is rather misleading too. Some might thing that 5 hits isn't that low, but that counts with splash damage, and a lot of things will have sizeable or long lasting splash damage that end up affecting the bit, so it will be gone really fast unless you put it on someone that will never get hit.

Another issue with her buff is how you can't "charge" it before using it. Bots like Lumiera charge their bit before using it, but Koyomi charges it to give buffs after she uses it. Not giving any buff until she hits someone 10/2 times is rather... stupid. It should at least give something that isn't a meat shield, because it's incredibly inefficient since you always lose some of it's effectiveness, because you always lose part of the WB bar before you give any kind of buff.
Lumiera and the like can farm trees/hippo/bits (or at least they could before when it comes to the last 2 examples) for the bit/"special effects on attacks", but Koyomi can't, she needs to hit actual players (bots in certain places count as players).

I really don't see why she has to go into the enemy's face when bots that are strictly meant to kill things, doesn't need to do so. Or you could say otherwise, which is the same shit but sounds better.

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God is a Cat Girl wrote:: The 5HP = 5 hits on the bit is rather misleading too. Some might thing that 5 hits isn't that low, but that counts with splash damage, and a lot of things will have sizeable or long lasting splash damage that end up affecting the bit, so it will be gone really fast unless you put it on someone that will never get hit.

Another issue with her buff is how you can't "charge" it before using it. Bots like Lumiera charge their bit before using it, but Koyomi charges it to give buffs after she uses it. Not giving any buff until she hits someone 10/2 times is rather... stupid. It should at least give something that isn't a meat shield, because it's incredibly inefficient since you always lose some of it's effectiveness, because you always lose part of the WB bar before you give any kind of buff.
Lumiera and the like can farm trees/hippo/bits (or at least they could before when it comes to the last 2 examples) for the bit/"special effects on attacks", but Koyomi can't, she needs to hit actual players (bots in certain places count as players).

i forgot about this too , she cant charge like lumi or corona with tree hug

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I'm hoping for koyomi buff, at the very least bit durability. I find her main a perfectly usable weapon with some tunes. But half the time even with good hit rate the bits are still dead before they can do anything. Or maybe once they take a hit they get invincibility for a bit so stuff like theia can't just oneshot them.

Jikun Hu Posts : 1147 Join date : 2011-10-28 Age : 38

Sorrow seems more upset about Koyomi than I am.

Winty wrote:: >they think that CV ignores status

http://webm.host/97850/vid.webm
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No need to ignore status when the whole attack somehow misses at point blank. And the argument for CC was that it ignores the knockback, even though you have attacks in the game which ignore CV and super armor stun immunity already.

Bonus: based melee homing
http://webm.host/57726/vid.webm

Thanks Astral for helping me illustrate. 10/10 would feed again.

I'd say, disappointed (and I had no hopes to start with). If I was just mad, I'd resume it all in "it's shit", because it wouldn't be worthy of anything else but a phrase.

Maelstrom wrote:

fggt wrote:: Tested Koyomi after completing cards (alpha), and...why did ppl say she is bad again? I feel like she is completely fine, at least as a free bot.

Her only problem is the lack of boost run, but isnt hard to deal with it...

It's Kanna, not Koyomi

For fuck sake, 1 buff deva that was only attacked those trees and DID not fking heal properly. There was also a trin here, he tried to kill the cannonballer - w-....

Jikun Hu Posts : 1147 Join date : 2011-10-28 Age : 38

lol

Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? - Page 14 R3Weron

Garapon is totally random guys.

For some reason I don't have the first roll in shop history though, I wanted to see if they were all the same gara for sure.

Shop History is completely fucked up now, again.

Adept Poster Posts : 822 Join date : 2015-04-18

Game was asking me to choose another robot, even if mine is at 50 hp and with a bit active.

I could actually move and hit people.

I chose a robot and re-appeared at spawn area with the selected robot.

How weird.

aosepsa wrote:

Maelstrom wrote:

fggt wrote:: Tested Koyomi after completing cards (alpha), and...why did ppl say she is bad again? I feel like she is completely fine, at least as a free bot.

Her only problem is the lack of boost run, but isnt hard to deal with it...

It's Kanna, not Koyomi

ops, I thought that he was talking about Kanna :v

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