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WiFi Grand Poster
Posts : 3107 Join date : 2013-10-10 Location : Above ground
| Subject: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:15 am | |
| What kind of weapon tunes should I use on Theia? | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:23 am | |
| 3x High Shooter, pro tunes, it's like the ranged version of 3x Slow these days. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:09 am | |
| force + grapid + hshooter | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:11 am | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:13 am | |
| HUUUUUURGEYUEYE STOP ASKING QUESTIONS HUUUUUUETEHE I HATE CB STOP PLAYING THE GAME EEEEEEEEEEERAREGHEY GOTTA TROLL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LEARN AAAAAAAAAAAAAATEHEWYHWEY
if you really want to make it so people can't fight back(just like slow tunes) tune 3x para so they are stunned forever. | |
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Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:16 am | |
| that h.shooter isn't necessary... | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:16 am | |
| You didn't even specify which GRapid (drop ammo for range or keep ammo optimal), worst adviser. HUUURGHGGHGGHHSCRUBGIVINGBA DADVICEHUUUUURRDESTROYINGGAM EHUGGGGGUGMORALLYBANKRUPTHAF AUGGHUUUHRGHRUINEDNFAGUUUUGGH
Seriousness aside, build weapon tunes around every else you want to actually tune on your bot, it's stupid to decide on weapon tunes THEN decide on the rest later.
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WiFi Grand Poster
Posts : 3107 Join date : 2013-10-10 Location : Above ground
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:22 am | |
| I'm thinking ammo is that right? | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:24 am | |
| yeah i'm definitely giving bad advice, unlike you, who is just taking your anger out on someone who is actually curious about something. there are plenty of troll question threads here, like the guy who posts dumb gcapa builds. You can tell him about slow tunes. I'd prefer people around me to be as competent as I can make them. - Quote :
- that h.shooter isn't necessary...
realtalk weapon tunes on theia aren't necessary to begin with but you want to increase the potential of the weapon as much as you can. Which is what this setup does. yes, you want to drop ammo. always assume grapid beta unless stated otherwise, there are very few circumstances where you'd ever want to drop range. | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:33 am | |
| All things considered, 3x HShooter is a pretty valid and serious advice... if it was coming from anyone else at least. I mean, shit, Bippu would totally tuned that on his Theia, and since he looks prettier than you on scoreboard he must know better than you!
In the end of the day, it's Theia, there's nothing to learn, the dimwit could literally shove anything on that gun and he would not notice any difference. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:43 am | |
| bippu doesn't even use theia because he thinks it's bad since she cannot into MAXIMUM DPS which is all he cares about.
The advice could have been serious coming from another person, but that wouldn't make it any less shit. | |
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:46 am | |
| I'm pretty sure he cares more about MAXIMUM SAFE than MAXIMUM DPS.
And I wouldn't say it's shit, it's dumb, just like 3x HShooter on MLG/Thoarla AM3 are IMHO dumb and nonoptimal, but not really shit. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:52 am | |
| >not knowing about how bippu does the math to get maximum DPS - Spoiler:
x2 charge delay shoot charge delay 18x5 times(1.2 seconds) into mb 18x10 (1.2 seconds) into shoot charge delay 18x5 (1.2 seconds) into mb 18x10 (1.2 seconds) into shoot charge delay for 3 shots 18x3 (.6 seconds)
total force in ~5.6 seconds = 594, 660 with hforce on both (like in my vid); you could mb first or not shoot all 6 with the solo charge delay and get a bit more damage in this time frame but w/e
x1 charge delay x1 lightning cannon shoot charge delay 18x5 (1.2 seconds) into shoot lightning cannon 40x1 (.5 seconds) into missiles 15x3 (assume 3 hit, pretty difficult to hit with that many even) (about 1 seconds) into shoot charge delay 18x5 (1.2 seconds) into shoot lightning cannon 40x1 (.5 seconds) into shoot charge delay 18x5 (a bit more than 1.2 seconds because of slight cooldown still left)
total force in ~5.6 seconds = 395, 425 with hforce; this is just about the maximum damage you can get out of 1pink1blue stella without moving burst, which raises it a bit. Most of the time your real damage output would be lower if you are actually using the range advantage of the lightning gun.
The lightning cannon gives some ability to do damage at longer range but you end up gimping your damage too much for it to be worth it. Theiamillis has a similar issue, her damage with the pulse laser + sonic impact cannon is significantly lower than even mb with a flowering gun, not as extreme as stella's case though.
also picking glide boost tiers to go for is really annoying, the final build I had planned was yellow forward and to the side (4/35 godlike efficiency) but this one in the vid is orange forward and yellow to the sides and I kind of like it...
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reVelske Grand Poster
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 38 Location : Robot Heaven
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:06 am | |
| There are glide boost tiers? There are still people who could be arsed to test them? News to me.
Anyhow, cb_math.jpg
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:08 am | |
| it's the same as float dash tiers actually. | |
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WiFi Grand Poster
Posts : 3107 Join date : 2013-10-10 Location : Above ground
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:07 pm | |
| Should I add another range weapon on her or should I put shields instead? Also is it good to use moving burst cart on her? | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:09 pm | |
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WiFi Grand Poster
Posts : 3107 Join date : 2013-10-10 Location : Above ground
| Subject: Re: Easy Mode: Theia Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:40 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- don't add shit to theia
Noted. | |
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