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PostSubject: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 7:33 pm

Here is my build:

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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 8:44 pm

On my opinion i like it except for 2 things

-Steal boost is OP on her and she'd need range mainly but speed is nice
-If you play her as a Constantly repositioning sniper and know when to get away 600 HP+ isnt needed but its nice to have

(These are just from my personal experience with her with my 489 hp istina that rarely dies)
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 9:46 pm

build for people who aren't shit:
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Winty wrote:
build for people who aren't shit:

Sorry, but i wanna play as sniper, build her without the expiation is out of question...


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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:07 pm

Maelstrom wrote:
Winty wrote:
build for people who aren't shit:

Sorry, but i wanna play as sniper, build her without the expiation is out of question...



I think you can live without the beam expiation though
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:17 pm

why would you want to sit on your ass all day and have your only damaging weapon be negated by homing and be completely reliant on your team to hold ground for you?

expiation is only a useful weapon when your team is already winning.
The tail, though, is a broken set of weapons for pretty much any situation, and when you consider she's an M-sized air and not S-sized, she gets a huge array of weapons to choose from, especially considering her capacity. MLG is still one of the best close range air weapons, and one of the most damaging ranged weapons in the game. CBC is a broken weapon, allowing accurate, fast, high damaging shots as well as AoE nukes against clusters of enemies. Negatron rifle after the buffs is a great weapon and has decent range if you don't want to get close.

Expiation is a niche weapon that is built to be played with a team that has already won. It's extremely good at holding an enemy in their base and blasting the first person who tries to come out to the point of them immediately regretting their decision and turning around to run back inside. In short, it's a cancergun. For other situations, it's average in effectiveness. There's no reason for an air to dedicate themselves to this role when they are sitting on one of the best boost steal weapons in the game. Boost steal itself is a great offensive tool, the fact that her other weapon is expiation is a complete 180 from this. If you want to make use of the core, this is probably the best way.

also you're not a piece of shit which is always a plus.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:27 pm

CBC makes her look like a real sniper.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:30 pm

I understand the purpose of the "no expiation" build, and i know that boost steal
is broken as hell, but even knowing this its hard to me to just take off the most
interesting part of the bot and play without it...

Ah, such dilemma...
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:33 pm

i don't see how sitting in one place and clicking at anything and hoping your homing weapon hits is "interesting" but that's just me.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:37 pm

Now i want another Istina just to do both builds...

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I think that her Expiation is interesting cuz his mechanics is a bit
different from another weapons, and it makes me want to use it...
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 11:01 pm

Maelstrom wrote:

@edit
I think that her Expiation is interesting cuz his mechanics is a bit
different from another weapons, and it makes me want to use it...

its same as rinka and its boring (reason why i dont use my rinka)
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 11:04 pm

GasaiYunoº wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:

@edit
I think that her Expiation is interesting cuz his mechanics is a bit
different from another weapons, and it makes me want to use it...

its same as rinka and its boring (reason why i dont use my rinka)

lol, i always wanted a Rinka just cuz i think her sniping rifle is cool...

boring is play as a support...
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 11:07 pm

sniper will be hated for ever, because ( you know ).
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 12:33 am

We should respect rinka players, she is very hard to use.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 3:20 am

fggt wrote:
We should respect rinka players, she is very hard to use.

Can't tell if sarcasm or not, but I did roll the original rinka from the thanks gara and I know for a fact I can't do jack shit with her unless my team's already winning the match. Otherwise I end up barely making it to the average score if that.

I do agree her playstyle is boring as fuck though, contrasting to snipers in other good FPS games.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 4:56 am

Obviously he's being sarcastic. All you do is sit in the back and shoot stuff, nothing more. She's easy to use and boring on top of that.

>supports boring
I'm guessing you're only thinking about Trintia's shitting out heal bubbles when you say that. As there's a wide selection for different supports that fill in different roles. Not just sitting on their ass and healing their team.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 5:05 am

Mantria/Domoregina is dabes and hardest supports there is.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 5:20 am

Real support carries Burst Fire.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 6:00 am

You mean Long Range.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 6:02 am

Real supports are chibis with dual slayer bits
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 6:07 am

highgrind wrote:

I do agree her playstyle is boring as fuck though, contrasting to snipers in other good FPS games.

i may not have played many of the current "good" fps games, but im pretty sure most of those games dont even offer any kind of sniper gameplay anymore. not like rinka is like an actual sniper.

anyways, the reason to use the sniping weapons in cb is a very simple one: diversity. making it just another copy of something (+booststeal) is just making more of the same (+booststeal) afterall. for stuff like this the performance is not the main selling point and never will be.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 8:52 am

there's more people running her default setup than there are any form of CBC builds.
actually play the game before you come up in here talking shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 4:56 pm

GasaiYunoº wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:

@edit
I think that her Expiation is interesting cuz his mechanics is a bit
different from another weapons, and it makes me want to use it...

its same as rinka and its boring (reason why i dont use my rinka)

nope.

Rinka = not homing straight line
Istina= 520 speed homing bitch with the possibility of guiding it ass mid air. 90* turns ._.
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 5:26 pm

Sakura1 wrote:
GasaiYunoº wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:

@edit
I think that her Expiation is interesting cuz his mechanics is a bit
different from another weapons, and it makes me want to use it...

its same as rinka and its boring (reason why i dont use my rinka)

nope.

Rinka = not homing straight line
Istina= 520 speed homing bitch with the possibility of guiding it ass mid air. 90* turns ._.

i was talking about the scope and not about the shots
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PostSubject: Re: Istina build   Istina build EmptyWed Nov 05, 2014 6:00 pm

remotes might as well be homing for all the control you have over what they can and can't hit.
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