Third madoka movie

Anyone watched it yet?

It's been out for a while now, hasn't it?

I torrented it a few months ago, I think, but I haven't actually watched. I read the tvtropes for it, though. I like its direction.

Yeah but that one wasnt the bd version, its cam recorded
bd version came out a few days ago.

I posted this on Suleika's Topic, I will post it again here!


I saw this movie, Madoka Magica: Rebellion Story. And even though I am a fan of Madoka Magica, I totally hated this movie, and for multiple reasons.
The series is so much better off without this terrible movie!


I thus offer the following two theses

1. The success of the original Puella Magi Madoka Magica TV series can be explained primarily through its adherence to a number of vital principles (pacing, thematic consistency, understanding of its artistic pedigree, etc.) which, in concert, exhibit mastery over the storytelling craft. I propose that Rebellion does not achieve the same victory because it does not adhere to the principles that made the original series great.

2. I also propose that the cause for said lack of adherence is the by-product of what I will label, as inspired by Shinbou and for the lack of a better term.
Fan Response.
Rebellion, in its entirety, is colored by the creator’s reactions to how viewers perceived the original work. In-so-doing, it forgets or discards what helped generate those reactions to begin with.

To put it another way, the phenomenon of Madoka Magica was so great that it cannibalized the potency of its own sequel.


First of all, in the movie, after the deal with Kyubey and the world inside of Homura's Soul Gem, where they have these 'Nightmare Monsters' (who don't look Nightmarish at all). AND THEY DON'T ENGAGE IN SUPER EPIC BOSS BATTLES AGAINST THEM!

No, they just sing and dance around, and then the Nightmare Monsters disappear! THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CUTENESS + ACTION SERIES, NOT A GODDAMN NICK JR MUSICAL! YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE EPIC ACTION!

And the songs they sing to do it are stupid, like this 'Cake Song' which is basically like "Who could that Cake Be?" That song was so juvenile and annoying and terrible! I'd rather listen to Teen Titans Go "Waffles Song" or "Spaghetti Dance" than listen to that nerve-wrecking excuse for a song!




Then laterthey fight against Homura's Witch Form, Homulily. This is when things started to Really go downhill.

Homulily Is Supposed To Look Like This! It showed it in the Madoka Magica PSP Game! Look below and see what Homulily, Homura's Witch Form is SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE


However, Homulily in the movie looked nothing like that. They just changed her appearance drastically for no reason, and the new look sucks too.

Also, what's with this finding a dead Homura in the Witch Barrier with no Soul Gem and half of her head missing, when Homura IS the Witch?

Then on top of it, during the fight against Homulily, Sayaka then somehow summons her own Witch Form, Oktavia Von Seckendorff, but as a separate being to help her in the battle.
THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT! The Witch Form is supposed to be a permanent and irreversible transformation that happens when they fall into despair, and now Sayaka is somehow sending her Witch Form as a separate being to help her in combat? That Makes No Sense! It also makes the Witches look more like totally separate entities, and not the transformed evil state of the Maho Shoujos.

Also, there is no point of Oktavia being here as well. As shown in the movie, her whole thing with Kyousuke has somehow been resolved in this movie. In a sense, Oktavia Von Seckendorff has essentially become a Branding Logo. If I didn't hate that Witch enough, now they have to pull crap like this!

Not to mention, how can Homulily and Oktavia even still be there, after the Witches were wiped from Existence by Goddess Madoka? The movie is already messing up its own frikkin continuity so badly!


Then next, we have this new girl who was added in, Nagisa Momoe, who happens to be the former Maho Shoujo self of the Witch, Charlotte.

First of all, Charlotte's former self was partially shown in these silhouettes in the original series. Nagisa however, looks nothing like what it was shown that she was supposed to look like in that silhouette. Look at these images below and see. Once again, totally changing the characters's appearance for no reason.



Second, Nagisa was shown to be able to somehow change into her Witch Form, Charlotte, and change back whenever she feels like it. Once again, just like Sayaka in the fight against Homulily, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT! For The Witch Form is supposed to be a permanent and irreversible evil transformation that happens when they fall into despair! Now this Nagisa Girl is just changing into her Witch form whenever she feels like it?! What The Hell?!

And not only that, but Charlotte's appearance has also been changed for no reason, and her name as well. Charlotte now has a weirder-looking face, and they now call her "Bebe," when she's supposed to be called "Charlotte!" Now not only changing the appearances for no reason, but also their names too?!

I hated Nagisa Momoe in the movie! She was so annoying and nerve-wrecking (especially when she'd sing that stupid Cake Song) and she was obviously just tacked on for no reason other than because Charlotte is such a popular Witch. She hardly proved helpful either. Heck, if she hadn't been in the movie, it would've changed Nothing!


Plus, so much stuff that was obviously done just to get the fans to be happy and shut up.

Like that part where Hitomi is turned into a Nightmare Monster. That part just Screams "it was done just to make all the fans happy because Hitomi gets what she deserves for stealing Kyousuke from Sayaka and being a jerk!"

Or the fact that Sayaka is now alive again, she now has Kyousuke as a boyfriend, and his hands are completely healed. Obviously that was done just to make all the fans happy that she gets her boyfriend now, even though it contradicts so many things! It also renders Sayaka's whole character arc in the anime pointless and superfluous too!

I should also mention that After first act is over with the whole fake city inside of Homura's Soul Gem and the Kyubey Plan, none of this is relevant anymore. After that first act, the movie is about something completely different, and that last part is never brought up again, like it didn't happen!
That is a MAJOR PROBLEM! I must admit that I never seen a first act having nothing to do with the rest of the movie. Some argue that they were thinking outside of the box. Well as MrEnter once remarked in his Animated Atrocities reviews, "If This Were A Testament to Anything, it's that there are times when the Box is a Good Place To Be!


Finally, the thing that really made it absolutely awful.

After Homulily is killed, and Homura departs onto the afterlife, she then meets with Goddess Madoka. Then, out of the blue, Homura turns evil, somehow manages to steal Goddess Madoka's Powers and becomes Evil Goddess Homura (or more like Satan Homura), then she turns Madoka back into a normal girl and sends her home and Mind-Wipes her. After that, the new "Satan Homura" creates these new Witch-like creatures called "Wraiths," and sends them across the world, restarting the whole Witch thing with something new (which is basically a rehash of the old).

Seriously, this was the worst part of the whole movie. First of all, how the hell could an ordinary Maho Shoujo just steal the powers of a Frikkin Goddess like that? Plus, that's totally out of character, Homura is a hero, and she would never want to do that! And Homura certainly didn't have to start this thing with these Wraith Things either!
It was a huge Deus Ex Machina (or Diabolos Ex Machina) that made no sense, it rendered all the past 12 episodes pointless, and it was obviously done just to make it opened ended for more sequels, which IS NOT A GOOD REASON!!!
Not to mention, it gives a bad moral too, instead of "always keep going for your dreams" now it is "Keep going for your dreams by all means necessary until you become a Monster from it!" It also degrades her character, at first she appeared to be a creepy stalker in the show, but then became the big badass hero. Now she's once again back to the creepy stalker, except omnipotent now too!

Dear God, I think that this whole movie was just a cheaply done and terrible way of making the ending of a Closed-Ended series become Open-Ended, so that they could make sequels in a possible OVA series, or perhaps a Season Two.

SHAFT could've done something similar to this without this crap, like making an OVA or Anime about the Madoka Magica Spinoff Manga series, like Kazumi Magica, or Oriko Magica as an anime or OVA series. Why did they have to do this?!


Thankfully though, this hasn't ruined or changed anything that is going on with my Madoka Magica Fan-Manga project, "Maho Shoujo Rika Magica." I'm at least thankful for that, and I can still continue working on that project of mine.




UGH! Now I guess it's time to pretend that this movie didn't happen, like with Dragon Ball GT, or Indiana Jones and The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, or Exorcist 2, or Highlander 2, or Hunchback of Notre Dame 2.

I still like Madoka Magica though, but I do Not Like this terrible third movie of it, Rebellion Story!!!

The ending of madoka magica the rebellion mind fucked me so hard.
I didn't know how to feel about the movie but it's understandable
In homuras condition that she'd turn out that way

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That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:

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Screw You CAV! I Do Not Have Autism! STOP FUCKING SAYING THAT I DO!!!!!  

it is as if i can feel my obliques caving inward, imploding into a parallel dimension where there is naught but lels, lols, and keks

That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:

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Muh sides, Senpai c:

Are these movies like Gurren Lagann's or is it some fanfiction wankery?

https://i.imgur.com/kneQINW.jpg

Tuskin wrote:

Are these movies like Gurren Lagann's or is it some fanfiction wankery?

https://i.imgur.com/kneQINW.jpg

It's more like fanfiction if you ask me. They dropped out what Meduka turned to, into what the mindless fans wanted her to be.

She went from part of the inner workings of the universe into Haruhi.

Then it's shit.

Tuskin wrote:

Then it's shit.

But it was never more than that.

It's the Twilight of mahou shoujo.

I once told my friend to open a Twilight book in any page so I could read a bit of it. The writing was at fanfiction level. That's how I see Meduka.
Because whoever wrote Meduka didn't know what he was doing. (Lets make this girl go back in time, and then every time she does, someone's personality change even though it's not supposed to! )

God is a Cat Girl wrote:

It's the Twilight of mahou shoujo.

No, before that terrible third movie, it was more like Persona + Kingdom Hearts (Without the Disney stuff) + NiGHTS Into Dreams + Stretch Panic + A Huge Amount of Cuteness and Action.

Tfw no spoilers whatsoever

And don't ever compare THIS

To Kingdom Hearts or Persona

Those are good things

This is an ok, overhyped thing.

Now to be fair, I guess KH can get a bit of overpraise, but whatever

Koiro wrote:

Tfw no spoilers whatsoever

And don't ever compare THIS

To Kingdom Hearts or Persona

Those are good things

This is an ok, overhyped thing.

Now to be fair, I guess KH can get a bit of overpraise, but whatever

You don't know, but Madoka Magica is very similar to KH, Persona, NiGHTS, and Stretch Panic, for reasons such as these.


Madoka Magica is like KH because it has some similar characters and magic. Like Sayaka is similar to Xion in ways, and Riku is similar to Kyouko and such.

Also, the Witches in Madoka Magica are a WHOLE LOT like the Heartless and Nobodies. Just like the Witches, the Heartless were formerly Magical Warriors like the protagonists, until their personal power object (their heart, or their Soul Gem), got corrupted black, causing them to turn into one. And like the Heartless, the Witches also feed off the Negative Emotions of others, and can spawn their own minions, and they have features that relate to the person whom they were before, and more.
And it is the duty of the Magical Warriors in each (The Keybearers, or the Maho Shoujos), to take down these evil corrupted beings that were formerly Magical Warriors like themselves. On top of that, they usually look weird and abstracty in ways.


Persona is like Madoka Magica because they have similar Magical Warriors with similar powers, and they usually fight through surrealistic realms, like the Maho Shoujos do. Also, Teddy is similar to Kyubey in ways too,

Also, the Shadows in Persona are a ton like the Witches, due to their weird, artzy looks, and how many of the Shadows were Shadow Forms of the Magical Warriors themselves.

Look at these bosses in Persona. They could easily pass as Madoka Magica Witches due to their crazy, wacky, artzy looks and such. Do you see what I mean?

Spoiler:

Madoka Magica is similar to NiGHTS Into Dreams since they both have a lot of surrealistic and weird realms in them, and both have to do with stuff involving Emotion-Based Energy. Also, they fight against similar weird and abstract-y looking enemies too. Heck, many of the Nightmaren Bosses in NiGHTS could probably pass as Witches too.


Madoka Magica is also similar to this old game I have played called Stretch Panic. It's a very obscure, but interesting PS1 game that I played, about this girl named Linda, who uses this Demon Scarf Arm weapon, and ventures to save her sisters from the so-called "Demons Of Vanity" who have transformed them into terrible monsters.

Much like in Madoka Magica, Linda's sisters, after being turned into Monsters by the Demons of Vanity, are weird and surrealistic looking things that live in artzy realms, and have much in their forms and realms that have to do with their former self. And the reason they did it was because they accepted the offer of these demonic creatures that tricked them, and took them victim (just like what happened to the Maho Shoujos with Kyubey). I'd tell you more, but you'd have to play the game to see why.


Do you understand my point now, Koiro?

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That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:

lol

Do you have a problem with long posts, CAV?

I couldn't make it any shorter without explaining things properly.

You took the most basic elements of the games that are seen in MANY other forms of media and compared them to each other but yes I see your point

Koiro wrote:

You took the most basic elements of the games that are seen in MANY other forms of media and compared them to each other but yes I see your point

I really don't see those sorts of elements used that often in other series, but I'm glad you understand what I mean now though.

Look, with the way you described Heartless, it's basically just a different way of showing a classical troupe of a being of pure heart or intentions becoming evil.

i like it because homu not suffering anymore  

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