Reveng tunes...

I'd like to ask why do you put revenge tunes on LG parts

cause they give you a chance at some broken buffs

well here are the revenge tunes:

Clearance: Removes Debuffs and grants immunity to debuffs. Gives All Guard buff too.

Crimson Veil: Never be stunned/flinch/spin while active. Gives All Guard buff too.

I just don't know the added % damage reduction when you have All Guard buff.


I don't know anything about Hypershot, nobody tunes them because you can get the buff from Power Station or Item.

Pork Chop wrote:

well here are the revenge tunes:

Clearance: Removes Debuffs and grants immunity to debuffs. Gives All Guard buff too.

Crimson Veil: Never be stunned/flinch/spin while active. Gives All Guard buff too.

I just don't know the added % damage reduction when you have All Guard buff.


I don't know anything about Hypershot, nobody tunes them because you can get the buff from Power Station or Item.

AFAIK, the all guard buff is equal to the buffs of all the guard carts that you can take. 50% explosive, 10% shell and 30% beam and sword.

AnTi90d wrote:

Pork Chop wrote:

well here are the revenge tunes:

Clearance: Removes Debuffs and grants immunity to debuffs. Gives All Guard buff too.

Crimson Veil: Never be stunned/flinch/spin while active. Gives All Guard buff too.

I just don't know the added % damage reduction when you have All Guard buff.


I don't know anything about Hypershot, nobody tunes them because you can get the buff from Power Station or Item.

AFAIK, the all guard buff is equal to the buffs of all the guard carts that you can take. 50% explosive, 10% shell and 30% beam and sword.

Now that's cool... I just don't know if the All Guard buff stacks with your guard cartridges.

Pork Chop wrote:

AnTi90d wrote:

Pork Chop wrote:

well here are the revenge tunes:

Clearance: Removes Debuffs and grants immunity to debuffs. Gives All Guard buff too.

Crimson Veil: Never be stunned/flinch/spin while active. Gives All Guard buff too.

I just don't know the added % damage reduction when you have All Guard buff.


I don't know anything about Hypershot, nobody tunes them because you can get the buff from Power Station or Item.

AFAIK, the all guard buff is equal to the buffs of all the guard carts that you can take. 50% explosive, 10% shell and 30% beam and sword.

Now that's cool... I just don't know if the All Guard buff stacks with your guard cartridges.

If it stacks would that mean 100% explosive? :3

Pork Chop wrote:

Now that's cool... I just don't know if the All Guard buff stacks with your guard cartridges.

I don't think that it stacks "with" the guard cartridges that you have on your bot, but rather gives you the effect like you had taken all of them, even the ones that your bot can't take. (IE: 50% explosive damage reduction for airs.)

AnTi90d wrote:

Pork Chop wrote:

Now that's cool... I just don't know if the All Guard buff stacks with your guard cartridges.

I don't think that it stacks "with" the guard cartridges that you have on your bot, but rather gives you the effect like you had taken all of them, even the ones that your bot can't take. (IE: 50% explosive damage reduction for airs.)

So if I am a support with ALL the Guard Cartridges then having an All Guard buff means nothing right?

Pork Chop wrote:

AnTi90d wrote:

Pork Chop wrote:

Now that's cool... I just don't know if the All Guard buff stacks with your guard cartridges.

I don't think that it stacks "with" the guard cartridges that you have on your bot, but rather gives you the effect like you had taken all of them, even the ones that your bot can't take. (IE: 50% explosive damage reduction for airs.)

So if I am a support with ALL the Guard Cartridges then having an All Guard buff means nothing right?

As I understand it, that is correct. We might need confirmation from a more knowledgeable member, though.. cough.. Winty.. cough..

I think All Guard reduces all incoming damage for 50 percent.

Revenge tunes have a lot of purposes.

Crimson Veil: this is often used on units with low base TGH (Kururu Gradd in example), to avoid being stunned to often. This is also used by some melee users as an escape mechanism. Some people use it on units with hold-down charge weapons to (Kagura, etc).

Clearance: this is often used when CV isn't needed. Melee rushers can use this to avoid being shut down by shock/slow. Other builds just have it for the all guard and extra HP.

Hypershot: hardly ever used, since SUPs can trigger the same effect. Some parts with long cooldowns are complemented by it, but that's all.

btw, Crimson Veil makes your defenses go down, so the All Guard helps lessen the damage.

And yeah, nobody tunes Hypershot Revenge....

rei_hunter wrote:

btw, Crimson Veil makes your defenses go down, so the All Guard helps lessen the damage.

wha???

rei_hunter wrote:

btw, Crimson Veil makes your defenses go down, so the All Guard helps lessen the damage.

No
That's not what CVeil does. It does not make your "defense" go down. The only reason you take more damage is because you don't have stun invincibility.

rei_hunter wrote:

btw, Crimson Veil makes your defenses go down, so the All Guard helps lessen the damage.

And yeah, nobody tunes Hypershot Revenge....

Actually, I've seen a number of Reines with it lately.

wat

KidGlitch wrote:

rei_hunter wrote:

btw, Crimson Veil makes your defenses go down, so the All Guard helps lessen the damage.

And yeah, nobody tunes Hypershot Revenge....

Actually, I've seen a number of Reines with it lately.

This sounds fail in multiple ways...

Ostensibly, it could increase their DPS by doubling the hits in a 1- or 2-strike combo Realistically, it doesn't seem worth it.

unless its a bug they didn't fix, revenge tunes should proc on cv or sapphire veil

rei_hunter wrote:

btw, Crimson Veil makes your defenses go down, so the All Guard helps lessen the damage.

And yeah, nobody tunes Hypershot Revenge....

rei, do you seriosly want my D, that much? Now you are just being retarded.

Uh...

wut reine with Hypershot Revenge? o_o....

I don't know how effective it is, but yes, I've overheard people talking about it and observed a match where people tested it.

rei_hunter wrote:

wut reine with Hypershot Revenge? o_o....

One of these days I will use hyper shot on you <3.

Saitama wrote:

rei_hunter wrote:

btw, Crimson Veil makes your defenses go down, so the All Guard helps lessen the damage.

And yeah, nobody tunes Hypershot Revenge....

rei, do you seriosly want my D, that much? Now you are just being retarded.

the statement is correct, though inaccurate.

AnTi90d wrote:

Pork Chop wrote:

well here are the revenge tunes:

Clearance: Removes Debuffs and grants immunity to debuffs. Gives All Guard buff too.

Crimson Veil: Never be stunned/flinch/spin while active. Gives All Guard buff too.

I just don't know the added % damage reduction when you have All Guard buff.


I don't know anything about Hypershot, nobody tunes them because you can get the buff from Power Station or Item.

AFAIK, the all guard buff is equal to the buffs of all the guard carts that you can take. 50% explosive, 10% shell and 30% beam and sword.

All guard is 30% Overall Damage Reduction plus an extra 10% against your weakness.

So:

Airs:
30% Shell, Beam, Melee reduction
40% Blast reduction

Lands:
30% Shell, Melee, Blast reduction
40% Beam reduction

Arts:
30% Shell, Blast, Beam reduction
40% Melee reduction

Stacks with guard carts through addition.

For example, if you have a land with Melee Guard cart, and All Guard activates, you gain 60% Melee reduction.