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Morishima Regular Poster
Posts : 157 Join date : 2011-09-03
| Subject: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:43 pm | |
| So I bought one since I got the RT and didn´t want to wait another 3 month to be able to roll gara^^ As I tried it on Blitzelt I got awsome expirience^^ Untuned of course and it was damn fun....though 50% of that fun was because of that long fly time and I could just fly above ppl and anoy then (lnds in particular^^) Now to my question. Since I got so much fun outa it I thought at least a Build would be fair to that weapon. And I tried alot....pretty much every L and M sized viable bot in shop. And even though I would really miss the extended flytime with blitzelt (even with propeller bit...you can´t buy it so u´re limited with the amount) I do belive that Vector Eagle is the best option....because when u have no ammo at least u still have his AWSOME Blaser which actually hurts really much with 40tec^^ I think it was 21dmg per bullet? - The Build:
[Robot Name] Vector Eagle
[Parts] BD: Vector BD : Propeller Bit : Ghost Raider LG2 [High Boost Beta] [High Tech] : Accel Saber HD [High Tech] [High Tech] [High Tech] : Black Hair Scarf : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Vector BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech] : Accel Saber AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Mega Lightning Gun : Accel Saber AM [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Viper Shield [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: L COST: 1235 CAPA: 1235 HP: 459 STR: 1 TEC: 39 WLK: 5 FLY: 38 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 8
So now post your suggestion...I know the Tec/str Balace is bad for Propeller but I couldn´t get the last breakpoint in TEC and FLY and still have decend str, wlk and tgh. Dunno even if 11 TGH will be enough....but in worst case I can decrease fly to 32 and increase TGH for it. To show another possibe build here the Blitzelt Version - Blitzelt Version:
[Parts] BD: Blitzelt BD : AURA System(default) : Izuna Kamui LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Blitzelt BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Seiron HD [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Eve Ornament : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Volcanics BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Accel Saber AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Great Tech Beta] : Mega Lightning Gun : Accel Saber AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech] : Viper Shield [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: M COST: 1100 CAPA: 1105 HP: 434 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 6 FLY: 38 TGH: 4
LEVEL: 7
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×7
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×16 Midoro Cosmos×1 Red Chip×95 Yellow Chip×70 Green Chip×15 Stabilizer×98 Turbo Charger×63 Scope Lens×7 Drum Magazine×49 Guide Circuit×67
AURA ON
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: M COST: 1100 CAPA: 1105 HP: 434 STR: 1 TEC: 43 WLK: 6 FLY: 38 TGH: 5
You fill your Gauge by attacking with MLG (no farming just attacking....it fills really fast) and in Aura Mode u use The Seiron HD as weapon (since it got no ending ammo^^) after Aura u use MLG to fill again and so on....over all you would do 71 with MLG and I think about 50 with the HD and that´s should be enough...again a lack of TGH and STR is pretty bad but if someone tells me that 32 fly for more TGH is viable I will change it on my editor File and might post the more TGH version here^^ You may as well tell me another bot that works well...my pretty much only condition was to Have 40 tec and enough Ammo for a whole game...so I build with only MLG as a weapon is not good for me...I do run out of Ammo with MLG so I know it and the worst thing was that in one particular game there was not a single chibi and nobody wanted to spare me a shell supply | |
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Moghul I understand nothing
Posts : 1832 Join date : 2011-06-12 Age : 30 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:52 pm | |
| I agree with you on that last statement, running out of ammo is annoying especially with no sups. IMHO the vector build is better. But I'm no expert. Don't take my word for it.
In a perfect world I'd put shaden bs on it and get less fly (32) so i can fit it on. But I don't know if there's enough capa for that and I don't feel like calculating. | |
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Morishima Regular Poster
Posts : 157 Join date : 2011-09-03
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:16 pm | |
| - amscray wrote:
- I agree with you on that last statement, running out of ammo is annoying especially with no sups. IMHO the vector build is better. But I'm no expert. Don't take my word for it.
In a perfect world I'd put shaden bs on it and get less fly (32) so i can fit it on. But I don't know if there's enough capa for that and I don't feel like calculating. Sadly enough I need to go to sleep but guess what´s going to be the first thing I do when I turn on my Laptop^^ But on the Blitzelt u wouldn´t run out of ammo as well...Because when U use aura again and again your ammo get refilled (on the HD) is what I belive I heared somewhere...
Last edited by Morishima on Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:25 pm; edited 1 time in total | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:25 pm | |
| why would you ever tune 32 fly | |
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Morishima Regular Poster
Posts : 157 Join date : 2011-09-03
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:26 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- why would you ever tune 32 fly
32 Fly is the Breakpont befor 38 Fly | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:32 pm | |
| I'd definitely tune Great Rapid on a Mega Lightning Gun. After some experience with one on my Pacifar, I've found that it's projectile speed needs some improvement, but the rest is good. |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:21 pm | |
| - Morishima wrote:
- Winty wrote:
- why would you ever tune 32 fly
32 Fly is the Breakpont befor 38 Fly Wrong, it is 31. Then the next break point before 38 is 34. | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:38 pm | |
| 2s MLG? D:
GForce BETA + High Shooter .-. | |
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That_Wiesel_Guy Legendary Poster
Posts : 4551 Join date : 2011-08-09 Age : 431
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:45 pm | |
| Use pacifar and get a handy mag for farming. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:02 pm | |
| - Morishima wrote:
- Winty wrote:
- why would you ever tune 32 fly
32 Fly is the Breakpont befor 38 Fly 32 is walk. 28 32 36. fly is 31 34 38. | |
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Pork Chop Regular Poster
Posts : 359 Join date : 2013-08-28 Location : Indo Archipelago
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:27 pm | |
| There is no Ammo issues if you are shooting accurately than just spray and pray. I live with a 98 Ammo 3xG.Force B Aqua Parasol and I'm just fine. Hoping I could roll a Linear Cannon Mod from Super UC DX garapon.
Anyways, In the Blitzelt build, I'll replace Viper shield with a light 3 slotted weapon (beam gun, hand gun, pulse gun, etc.) to boost TGH to at least 7 or 11 and also for farming. I don't use shields on AIR.
If it can't be done, then I'll just choose the Vector Eagle.
Still I don't use shields on AIR since I focus more on dodging than blocking. I'm not sure if you can block a large explosive projectile if it hits your shield. | |
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Morishima Regular Poster
Posts : 157 Join date : 2011-09-03
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:22 am | |
| - Winty wrote:
- Morishima wrote:
- Winty wrote:
- why would you ever tune 32 fly
32 Fly is the Breakpont befor 38 Fly 32 is walk. 28 32 36. fly is 31 34 38. Didn´t know that...thx I will change it accordingly. Edit:As u can see below. I used the 34 Fly Breakpoint to increase TGH to a more usefull amount and to be able to add an additional farm weapon. - Pork Chop wrote:
- There is no Ammo issues if you are shooting accurately than just spray and pray. I live with a 98 Ammo 3xG.Force B Aqua Parasol and I'm just fine. Hoping I could roll a Linear Cannon Mod from Super UC DX garapon.
Anyways, In the Blitzelt build, I'll replace Viper shield with a light 3 slotted weapon (beam gun, hand gun, pulse gun, etc.) to boost TGH to at least 7 or 11 and also for farming. I don't use shields on AIR.
If it can't be done, then I'll just choose the Vector Eagle.
Still I don't use shields on AIR since I focus more on dodging than blocking. I'm not sure if you can block a large explosive projectile if it hits your shield. Since I don´t buy Accele Roll or Airloop dodging is a bit difficult though by just flying left and right I do dodge enough...but with that tgh I am born to die I guess^^ so I will calculate a bit more with both builds and see what I can do... Edit: - Blitzelt:
[Robot Name] Blitzelt
[Parts] BD: Blitzelt BD : AURA System(default) : Izuna Kamui LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Blitzelt BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Seiron HD [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] (47 DMG per Blast/Light^^) : Eve Ornament : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Beezle BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Accel Saber AM [Great Boost Alpha] [Great Boost Alpha] [Great Tough] : Mega Lightning Gun [Tech] (71 DMG per Blast/Light^^) : Accel Saber AM [Great Tough Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tough] : Particle Gun [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] (Does 9 DMG per Particle)
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: M COST: 1105 CAPA: 1105 HP: 429 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 2 FLY: 34 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 7
AURA: ON
[Stats] TYPE: 空 SIZE: M COST: 1105 CAPA: 1105 HP: 429 STR: 1 TEC: 43 WLK: 2 FLY: 34 TGH: 12
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×7
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×14 Midoro Cosmos×4 Red Chip×105 Yellow Chip×80 Green Chip×15 Stabilizer×95 Turbo Charger×57 Brake Damper×47 Rapid Crystal×22 Drum Magazine×39 Guide Circuit×70 Hard Plate×33 Hulk Meteorite×15
Didnt Build Vector Eagle since I do realize that it got pretty good response (for my standarts) by the community^^ Just thinking about decreasing fly for more TGH...what do u guys think? Less Dodging for Less getting Stunned when hit = PROFIT? - amscray wrote:
- I agree with you on that last statement, running out of ammo is annoying especially with no sups. IMHO the vector build is better. But I'm no expert. Don't take my word for it.
In a perfect world I'd put shaden bs on it and get less fly (32) so i can fit it on. But I don't know if there's enough capa for that and I don't feel like calculating. I looked it up on net and the shaden bs is really large....I would need to check out pro and con about that bs befor actually tuning and using it. (a large bs is on that small amount of tgh pretty deadly) Edit:I tried to, but I couldn´t reach even 40 tec with Shaden BS.
Last edited by Morishima on Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:54 am; edited 1 time in total | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:53 am | |
| is it weird that i use a Boost Run/Short Boost Shaden for this? '-' | |
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Saitama Hostile Forumer
Posts : 546 Join date : 2013-08-13
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:41 pm | |
| - rei_hunter wrote:
- is it weird that i use a Boost Run/Short Boost Shaden for this? '-'
It's not weird because your builds have always been shit. | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:26 pm | |
| - Saitama wrote:
- rei_hunter wrote:
- is it weird that i use a Boost Run/Short Boost Shaden for this? '-'
It's not weird because your builds have always been shit. SHOTS FIRED. | |
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Moghul I understand nothing
Posts : 1832 Join date : 2011-06-12 Age : 30 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:23 pm | |
| How do you boost run L air? I can't even....? | |
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Koiro God Poster
Posts : 5490 Join date : 2012-09-16 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the state of Country
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:44 pm | |
| - amscray wrote:
- How do you boost run L air? I can't even....?
By grabbing the Boost Run cartridge and tuning for BEE ARR breakpoints. | |
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Pork Chop Regular Poster
Posts : 359 Join date : 2013-08-28 Location : Indo Archipelago
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:09 pm | |
| Boost run on L AIR? I thought boost run works with bigger WLK and some FLY to support it. Are you making a FLY based Boost run? Trust me don't, I did it and it was slow...
The first chart in this link shows the fastest Boost Run Break points:
http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t7429-boost-run-short-boost-etc-etc-charts
In regards to rei_hunter's build... I can't find a chart about boost run when FLY is 40. | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Mega Lightning Gun Bot (MLG BOT) Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:14 am | |
| its basically a Shaden with Shaden BS and Reignition BS strapped with a MLG, running around at 40 TEC. .-.
Hop all day long. | |
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