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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 5:10 pm

to each their own I guess, have fun with that idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 5:13 pm

90 Power Amps.... |:

Christ, I think anybody who actually plays this game has atleast either the UC or more than enough mats to +1 a bot. Level it if you want, not like you'll be using it for one of the main forms of EXP or anything.

What bothers me the most is that you ask but don't want to even put an ounce of effort into what you're asking others for help about.


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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 5:21 pm

I use this guy

Spoiler:
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 5:37 pm

just use an eris l0l
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 6:12 pm

since some people dont seem to understand the idea of behind building haku specific bots:

its basically about making your runs less time consuming by investing time into your haku bots. at some point the less time consuming runs will save you as much time as you initially invested to build the bots, from that point onwards you will make profit by saving time in each run without having to invest additional time for it.
so even if you just cut the time needed for the runs by a single minute it will eventually bring you profit in the long run, despite having to invest a seemingly larger ammount of time to achieve this 1 minute reduction.

this should be easy enough to understand, considering i only use a single, universal, ressource instead of 4 seperate ones.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 7:42 pm

On Cosmic Break Europe Server, Jikun Long @ 40 STR was easyyyy (Especially if you had 3-way daggers that's 3 slot.

Anyways, Hidora Cosmos and Power Amps cost about 100 Crim Points each. Levelling an Accel Saber is worth it because you can recart him to be a Hopper (Stuff the parts out for Hopper Weapons/Parts... and Recart him)
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 7:58 pm

I don't understand your constant need to advertise other CB versions.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 07, 2013 11:52 pm

Haku Quest, its all about efficiency

and the exp/drops too.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 1:45 am

That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
I don't understand your constant need to advertise other CB versions.
Yeah advertise a dead server...

but really, i used a Jikun Long there to get thru haku. Built-in Melee, Handhelds. Has enough tune slots for single STR Tunes. She also has enough free capacity for other carts. '-'
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 2:07 am

Trill wrote:
What bothers me the most is that you ask but don't want to even put an ounce of effort into what you're asking others for help about.
I asked if it was worth tuning. Then I decided to go into the calc MYSELF and see and I saw that it wasn't worth it to me, having to do at least 50 000 exp (for both of my ready-made bots to get from 8 to 9) which would mean about 15-20 runs (because I don't have any more exp boosts) and then spending 18 hidoras (of which I have like... 12 atm) and then sacrificing some of the HP from the Big Mountaiz LG, swapping it for poopier legs just for lower cost.

And all this to shave (?) 2 minutes off the time?


So ex-squeeze me for making my own conclusions and decisions which differ from your own. Especially when my current setup works god damned fine.


PS. to the one guy who thought I was saying that making a haku bot isn't worth it: I have two. The question was "is it worth it to tune them" to which I concluded no because I would also have to further level them; hilarity ensued.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 2:12 am

amscray

Your preference, but it'd be nice to actually have tuned bots for any of the bastagant bosses. (Except for CS-Chan Experiment)

You will need those tunes later but if you can kick haku butt, then it should be fine.. i guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 2:22 am

amscray wrote:
Trill wrote:
What bothers me the most is that you ask but don't want to even put an ounce of effort into what you're asking others for help about.
I asked if it was worth tuning. Then I decided to go into the calc MYSELF and see and I saw that it wasn't worth it to me, having to do at least 50 000 exp (for both of my ready-made bots to get from 8 to 9) which would mean about 15-20 runs (because I don't have any more exp boosts) and then spending 18 hidoras (of which I have like... 12 atm) and then sacrificing some of the HP from the Big Mountaiz LG, swapping it for poopier legs just for lower cost.

And all this to shave (?) 2 minutes off the time?


So ex-squeeze me for making my own conclusions and decisions which differ from your own. Especially when my current setup works god damned fine.


PS. to the one guy who thought I was saying that making a haku bot isn't worth it: I have two. The question was "is it worth it to tune them" to which I concluded no because I would also have to further level them; hilarity ensued.
You act like doing Haku using them whist Haku running to level them up would just take up a huge chunk of your life up.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 2:30 am

@ Koiro10 yes, it would.


Ok so here's a question where I really can't decide for myself: I got 2 custom shottys from SUC a couple of days ago. They take out 1 tec but have 1 extra force, have lower int but also lower range.

The calc says it does more damage and since it has less int, it also does more DPS. I think it's worth it to switch but I don't know whether or not it can reach final haku when he's in the corner behind the whirly things. If it can, I think I should swap them.

I i'm wrong, please tell me. I won't contradict you.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 3:00 am

I levelled a Level 0 Cresent Saint into Level 8 without putting much of a sweat (8hrs~ + Tune Up Mats + UC)

Then i also tuned mid way (around level 4) for 40 STR. At Level 8, he's at 40 STR and 38 FLY, with Float Dash and Stun Regain.

If you're putting 3 bots that require EXP into haku, then yes, it'll take time.

And yes, CSG can reach Haku while he's in the corner twistering. (MMBG works better though - somewhat since it has a longer disappearing range than CSGs.)
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 3:23 am

I see, well, right now I'm gonna go ahead and try to lvl up one of my accels since I have a free day ahead and I still need to lvl 1-2 other bots.(still don't think it's worth it but w/e)

Can I just make sure? Is CSG better than regular shotgun?
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 3:40 am

*sigh*

Check their stats in CosmicCalc, Shotty has 9 force if i remember correctly, and CSG is at 12 Force.

Shotgun has a wider shot, while CSG is closer to each other, ensuring that each wave of bullets you fire actually hit the target, which gives you a bigger damage rating than that of a Shotgun.

Just, Force Tune the CSG, then Single TEC Tunes '-'.... but they're not all that important in kicking haku butt.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 4:10 am

CSG has 10 force in Calc. Also, thanks. Switching to CSG.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 6:27 am

amscray wrote:
PS. to the one guy who thought I was saying that making a haku bot isn't worth it: I have two. The question was "is it worth it to tune them" to which I concluded no because I would also have to further level them; hilarity ensued.
i am very sorry that even when i dumbed it down into a single ressource you still where unable to understand what the post is about.
someone that has designated hakubots should have realised WHY he has them and once he realised that, he should have realised what the post and most other posts in this thread are about.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 7:59 am

>Thread is about "post your haku builds"
>I happened to have asked a question, then shortly figured out my own answer
>People disagreed and attempted to change my view
>You came in and thought I had dissed haku-purposed bots.
>I have two
>My question was whether or not it was worth it to further improve them
>I still don't understand what you want with me.



PS: i'm improving one to see the difference first-hand. If I think it's worth it, I'll up the second one too.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 08, 2013 8:44 am

i leeched before i made a haku bot, lol
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 09, 2013 3:45 am

amscray wrote:
>Thread is about "post your haku builds"
>I happened to have asked a question, then shortly figured out my own answer
>People disagreed and attempted to change my view
>You came in and thought I had dissed haku-purposed bots.
>I have two
>My question was whether or not it was worth it to further improve them
>I still don't understand what you want with me.



PS: i'm improving one to see the difference first-hand. If I think it's worth it, I'll up the second one too.
ok i will now make an attempt to make this whole shit idiot proof:

if it makes your runs faster it is worth it because in the long run you will get all invested ressources and time back.

there. was that easy enough to understand ?
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 09, 2013 4:16 am

Aurum_Sol wrote:

ok  i will now make an attempt to make this whole shit idiot proof:

if it makes your runs faster it is worth it because in the long run you will get all invested ressources and time back.

there. was that easy enough to understand ?
I swear to god you're as thick as a safe. It does not make my runs faster because god damnit, I have to put time into them now. I've made a huge mistake and given one of my haku bots a lvl 8 limit remover and now that he's lvl 9, I'm losing like 50k exp since I can't stop him from gaining more. It is making my runs SLIGHTLY faster (like 10s mind you) but I have to do twice as many because the EXP is being shared between it and the bot I'm actually trying to level. Therefore not fucking worth it. Now drop it and go shovel it.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 09, 2013 4:20 am

if its only 10 seconds, your most likely doing something wrong there ;>
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 09, 2013 4:23 am

It isn't doing anything worthwhile for me. Before, I'd be done with 10 or 13 minutes left. Now, it's the exact same. It's not giving me anything other than a 10s difference (on average). And now I have to do twice as many haku runs for a looong ass time.
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PostSubject: Re: Haku core   Haku core - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 09, 2013 7:44 am

>10 to 13
You realize normal solos have 18-20 minutes left right?
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