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Do you want Gift System in CB-EN?
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PostSubject: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 10:13 pm

The Gift System is one of those nifty things you can make use off in progressing your parts collection. Especially when you have multiple accounts... or friends you want to help out (with starter choices)

It still puzzles me as to why its still not implemented in Cosmic Break English Server, when Taiwan, Korea and Brazil (and also Vietnam) has had it for a while now. (Not too sure on Thailand's server, but i'd guess they have it as well).

Japan of course has it, for the longest time. It runs simultaneously with Bazaar after all. The 4 non English/Japanese servers doesnt have bazaar... so it would make use of Gift System early on...

But what about for the English Server?

We've had past talks with Piroko about Gift System, and the one thing that came up was Credit Card Fraud. It was going to be messy, since you'd have to check the user's shopping details, then also check the people he gifted onto before he bounced the charge.

If that was a problem, Korea, its wide array of RT Robots in shop (Its almost the same as in English Version, but everything's 3s) would have been a deadzone for credit card fraud.

Taiwan's another example, since they take credit cards. Brazil probably the same. Vietnam, yeah... same.

So guys, what's your thoughts on English Server -still- not having Gift System?
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 10:21 pm

I'm still half and half on this issue. We have Brazilians that play this server.. and, although there are some good ones like Mie, most of the others are rather underhanded. To put it bluntly, credit card fraud is rampant among those people. Also, hundreds of alts gifting Illumis arm joints to everyone wouldn't really make arena any more fun, overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 10:34 pm

AnTi90d wrote:
I'm still half and half on this issue. We have Brazilians that play this server.. and, although there are some good ones like Mie, most of the others are rather underhanded. To put it bluntly, credit card fraud is rampant among those people. Also, hundreds of alts gifting Illumis arm joints to everyone wouldn't really make arena any more fun, overall.
well. she's a full 100RT in CB-KR and Taiwan. 500,000 UC in TW, 100,000 in BR.

You can't gift "RT" Parts. Its only limited to UC Parts (Or anything that has been turned into UC, like Thoarla LGs.)

So if you're gifting Illumis just for one of her parts, its not worth it since you get +20% taxed.
120RT, 600,000 UC, 120,000 UC respectively.

But, it still doesnt explain, even Brazil has Gift System right? If they're such Credit Card Fraud rampant, i doubt BR would be in any position to be still alive today.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 10:58 pm

Oh, so "gifting" is for shop bots only, and not for garapon exclusives? OK, the worst we can have is a legion of 2s Fagalinas.. and that's not that scary.

I want it, now.. 100%.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 11:05 pm

make alt collect RT then buy robot / item , parts and send to main account = no.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 11:23 pm

AnTi90d wrote:
Oh, so "gifting" is for shop bots only, and not for garapon exclusives? OK, the worst we can have is a legion of 2s Fagalinas.. and that's not that scary.

I want it, now.. 100%.
GIFTING IS LIMITED TO~

UC Weapons (Anything that's UC in the Weapons Tab. Its good to go.)
UC Accessories (ANything that's UC in the Parts Tab. Its good to go.)
UC Parts (ANything. and i mean ANYTHING that's UC in the Parts Tab (like for CB-KR, 1s Thoarla LG), its good to go.)
UC Wonderbits.
UC Robots (Anything. As long as you have the UC, Good to go.)
RT Robots (Illumis? Ouka? as long as you have the necessary total RT (+ Tax already), good to gift.)
UC Items (except UC->RT, good to go.)
Selective RT Items (There are some RT Items you can Gift... it depends on server to server.)
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 12:05 am

Cobra76 wrote:
make alt collect RT then buy robot / item , parts and send to main account = no.
I agree. CS is better off updating up the old UC bots in shop(the ones nobody bothers to look at anymore), missions and quests instead of gift.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 4:08 am

Samui wrote:
Cobra76 wrote:
make alt collect RT then buy robot / item , parts and send to main account = no.
I agree. CS is better off updating  up the old UC bots in shop(the ones nobody bothers to look at anymore), missions and quests instead of gift.
This and what Cobra said, i'm one of the guys that would benefit most from this(GOD knows how many Gyalla/Lux/Pelena/C.Freed/Protos A/more i have rotting in my sub garage...)but then:

1)fraud problems
2)Everyone gets GAY parts just by having a friend/clan member/whatever having'em. Mad 

so i'd prefer they do another shop update (again 100 bots =P) and focus on mission/Arcantus rewamping. Cool .
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 6:06 am

N00b question: who would you give these items to? :,>
Idk, the only person on my FL Id actually bother to give items to would be CapeMike
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 6:26 am

rei_hunter wrote:
AnTi90d wrote:
Oh, so "gifting" is for shop bots only, and not for garapon exclusives? OK, the worst we can have is a legion of 2s Fagalinas.. and that's not that scary.

I want it, now.. 100%.
GIFTING IS LIMITED TO~

UC Weapons (Anything that's UC in the Weapons Tab. Its good to go.)
UC Accessories (ANything that's UC in the Parts Tab. Its good to go.)
UC Parts (ANything. and i mean ANYTHING that's UC in the Parts Tab (like for CB-KR, 1s Thoarla LG), its good to go.)
UC Wonderbits.
UC Robots (Anything. As long as you have the UC, Good to go.)
RT Robots (Illumis? Ouka? as long as you have the necessary total RT (+ Tax already), good to gift.)
UC Items (except UC->RT, good to go.)
Selective RT Items (There are some RT Items you can Gift... it depends on server to server.)
The hype here is it makes me want to charge RT on my alt to finally transfer Lios to my own account.
Or a Resha on my friend's account to steal it >: D

If Garapon exclusives were "giftable" but afaik you can only gift cores directly purchased from shop.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 8:42 am

Zwiebel Force wrote:
N00b question: who would you give these items to? :,>
Idk, the only person on my FL Id actually bother to give items to would be CapeMike
Forever waiting for RT trade to give Joe Flapjack.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 9:24 am

What I want to know is that do we can only buy from shop then gift, or gift from stuff in garage?
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 9:57 am

Just put the itens/bots/weapons in shopping cart then gift to a friend.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 1:15 pm

Apparently, the issue comes from the fact that the guys that play our server are more likely to commit fraud than other servers, if they weren't already adept on it.
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Can you repeat the question?
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 11:05 pm

rei_hunter wrote:
... (Not too sure on Thailand's server, but i'd guess they have it as well).

...
Thailand's server have the gift system in their first release (or I can say, they have them from the start).

And I agreed with rei. CB-EN must have gift system already.
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So, is CBEN the only version of CB that has no gifting system? I hate our shit-head GMs, full of excuses..
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 11:46 pm

cs hates giving en players good shit for free
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 12:08 am

AnTi90d wrote:
So, is CBEN the only version of CB that has no gifting system? I hate our shit-head GMs, full of excuses..
Yes, Only Cosmic Break English server has no Gift System.

Well, the only thing that KR, TW, BR, and probably Taiwan has no way to offer, is those servers dont have Bazaar. Korea's in its 2nd year of operating (3rd year if you count before the firesale) and they -still- dont have Bazaar. Possibly due to its current population (80) that they haven't decided on bazaar yet (or their shop items differentiate than those of CB-EN's)

Taiwan should be coming close to 2nd year of its operations however, so Bazaar might be coming to them... i hope so lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 9:22 am

Thailand's server take about 2 years (as far as I know) to get bazaar. Yeah, Thailand's server have bazzar too (about 1-2 time a month).

With Korean's server population (80) is about Thailand's server population (60 - 150 depend on time and event), I think they'll get bazaar soon.

PS. Thailand's server first release (CBT) on 17 January 2011 and Open Beta on 23 Fabuary 2011. Which is about 1 year before Korean's server.
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homin wrote:
Thailand's server take about 2 years (as far as I know) to get bazaar. Yeah, Thailand's server have bazzar too (about 1-2 time a month).

With Korean's server population (80) is about Thailand's server population (60 - 150 depend on time and event), I think they'll get bazaar soon.

PS. Thailand's server first release (CBT) on 17 January 2011 and Open Beta on 23 Fabuary 2011. Which is about 1 year before Korean's server.
Korea started early though, like 6months to a year before their current service o-o
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I honestly think it's because we're the only server that has the "offer" system in which we can earn a shit ton of rt on an alt with "X" robot parts (flapjack) and transfer the arms to our mains via gifting system, sandboxie, and adding ourselves to our own friends list.
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PostSubject: Re: Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break?   Gift System, why isnt it in Cosmic Break? EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 2:43 pm

RedbriefGay wrote:
I honestly think it's because we're the only server that has the "offer" system in which we can earn a shit ton of rt on an alt with "X" robot parts (flapjack) and transfer the arms to our mains via gifting system, sandboxie, and adding ourselves to our own friends list.
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.

I think we're the ONLY server that have free rt by doing 'offer'.

But, offer website still be the way to earn rt on other server too (Thailand's server can do this, get points and buy pre-paid card by offer website).

In the end, every server can do offer. But there're no garantee then doing it on Official Offer on main website.
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homin wrote:
RedbriefGay wrote:
I honestly think it's because we're the only server that has the "offer" system in which we can earn a shit ton of rt on an alt with "X" robot parts (flapjack) and transfer the arms to our mains via gifting system, sandboxie, and adding ourselves to our own friends list.
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.

I think we're the ONLY server that have free rt by doing 'offer'.

But, offer website still be the way to earn rt on other server too (Thailand's server can do this, get points and buy pre-paid card by offer website).

In the end, every server can do offer. But there're no garantee then doing it on Official Offer on main website.
uh. Taiwan has an offer wall.

Not too sure about Korea, Brazil or Vietnam however.
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