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Poppet Abbey Cry
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 27
| Subject: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:32 pm | |
| - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Kagura
【Parts】 BD: Kagura BD (Retribution) : Sniping Unit : Kagura LG [Tech] [Tech] [Tech] : Kagura HD [Tech] [Tech] [Tech] : Kougetsu Shrine Bell : 2nd Anniversary Scarf : 2nd Anniversary Flag BSJ [Tech] : Tycoon Hogroid BS [Tech] [Tech] [Tech] : Kagura AM [Tech] [Tech] [High Boost Beta] : Busted Stungun [High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Kagura AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Exorcism Bow [Great Range Alpha] [Great Force Beta] [Great Force Beta] : Talismans [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Busted Stungun [Tough] [Tough] [Tough]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1305 CAPA: 1305 HP: 454 STR: 1 TEC: 39 WLK: 5 FLY: 31 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Float Dash Broad Radar Zero Cartridge×3
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×15 Fudara Cosmos×10 Threede Cosmos×3 Red Chip×55 Blue Chip×40 Yellow Chip×45 Black Chip×20 Stabilizer×69 Turbo Charger×45 Brake Damper×15 Strike Metal×18 Scope Lens×9 Drum Magazine×27 Guide Circuit×7 Acid Gel×45
Pretty sure everything is alright. | |
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Ryuuichiro Ace Poster
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 32 Location : Je T'aime
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:44 pm | |
| half-assed build is half-assed | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:53 pm | |
| Unless calc lies about nonhoming kagura's base speed I think you're gonna want speed tunes on that. - Spoiler:
Unless those weapon tunes were just random placeholder tunes to hide your real tunes while filling cost.
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Poppet Abbey Cry
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:47 am | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- Unless calc lies about nonhoming kagura's base speed I think you're gonna want speed tunes on that.
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Unless those weapon tunes were just random placeholder tunes to hide your real tunes while filling cost.
I think 370 Speed is enough for short-medium range shots, even with rapid tunes I'm going to be the victim of banking without a homing element at longer ranges. I'd rather have 20% more damage in general or even paralyze. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Kagura
【Parts】 BD: Kagura BD (Retribution) : Sniping Unit : Kagura LG [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Kagura HD [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Kougetsu Shrine Bell : 2nd Anniversary Scarf : 2nd Anniversary Flag BSJ [High Boost Beta] : Tycoon Hogroid BS [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Kagura AM [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] [Tech] : Busted Stungun [Tech] [Tech] [Tech] : Kagura AM2 [Tech] [Tech] [Tech] : Exorcism Bow [Great Range Alpha] [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Force Beta] : Talismans [Tech] [Tech] [Tech] : Busted Stungun [Tough] [Tough] [Tough]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1305 CAPA: 1305 HP: 454 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 5 FLY: 31 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Float Dash Broad Radar Zero Cartridge×3
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×14 Fudara Cosmos×11 Threede Cosmos×3 Red Chip×60 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×50 Green Chip×20 Black Chip×20 Stabilizer×73 Turbo Charger×49 Brake Damper×15 Strike Metal×9 Scope Lens×9 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×31 Guide Circuit×14 Heat Ash×15 Acid Gel×30
Replaced a Great Force with a Great Rapid. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:57 am | |
| on something like kagura dropping a zero cart doesnt seem to be a good idea | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:24 am | |
| Why would you want to take Binding: Bolt Storm? She'll already have Spirit Seal and Binding: Fire Storm. | |
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JadeCicada Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2012-03-26 Location : DOS
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:24 am | |
| - Aurum_Sol wrote:
- on something like kagura dropping a zero cart doesnt seem to be a good idea
I don't think he skipped a Zero Cart. Calc handles Kagura as two separate entries, one for each path, which takes the first Zero cart you pick (that way it can show the proper weapon stats for tuning). Then there's three more carts to take, which are shown to be taken above. | |
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KidGlitch Ace Poster
Posts : 1703 Join date : 2013-02-22
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:14 pm | |
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Firaragun Regular Poster
Posts : 105 Join date : 2011-02-12 Location : somewhere between a bed and suffering.
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:40 pm | |
| My build on the Retribution path. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Kagura
【Parts】 BD: Kagura BD (Retribution) : Rifle Bit(default) : Kagura LG [Run] [High Tech Beta] [Run] : Kagura HD [High Run Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Cute Beret [Great Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Tech Beta] : Rouche BS [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Kagura AM [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Kagura AM2 [Ranger] : Exorcism Bow [Rapid] : Talismans [High Run] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Tech Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1235 CAPA: 1235 HP: 460 STR: 2 TEC: 37 WLK: 36 FLY: 2 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land Zero Cartridge×3
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×16 Midoro Cosmos×2 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×65 Blue Chip×35 Green Chip×70 Stabilizer×82 Engine Shaft×58 Scope Lens×11 Rapid Crystal×5 Guide Circuit×39 Snail Liquid×32 Screw Bolts×20 Steel Wheel×12
Most likely going to miss a few shots, and best be flexible when targeted by other enemies. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:39 pm | |
| Few of those tunes... confuse me. Breakpoint for arts at 35, High Run Beta I can understand, but G.Tech Alpha when you have extra slots, and HRun with excess slots too. Could probably get another weapon tune if you looked into everything :V
HTech Alpha is fairly pointless aswell. H.Run Beta + H.Tech Alpha is 2 Run/1 tec/-1 fly/str for 15 cost. H.Run Alpha + Tec is the same stats (without the -1str) and a lot easier :V
(that or you can convert them to H.Tech Beta's assuming you drop to 35 walk and get 3 fly to convert albas to betas) | |
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Poppet Abbey Cry
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:56 pm | |
| - Firaragun wrote:
- My build on the Retribution path.
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Kagura
【Parts】 BD: Kagura BD (Retribution) : Rifle Bit(default) : Kagura LG [Run] [High Tech Beta] [Run] : Kagura HD [High Run Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Cute Beret [Great Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Tech Beta] : Rouche BS [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Kagura AM [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Kagura AM2 [Ranger] : Exorcism Bow [Rapid] : Talismans [High Run] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Tech Beta]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1235 CAPA: 1235 HP: 460 STR: 2 TEC: 37 WLK: 36 FLY: 2 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 12
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land Zero Cartridge×3
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×16 Midoro Cosmos×2 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×65 Blue Chip×35 Green Chip×70 Stabilizer×82 Engine Shaft×58 Scope Lens×11 Rapid Crystal×5 Guide Circuit×39 Snail Liquid×32 Screw Bolts×20 Steel Wheel×12
Most likely going to miss a few shots, and best be flexible when targeted by other enemies. Quick Jump is really a bonus cart to hopping. Better off getting a more crucial cart like Capacity, Broad radar, or Blast Guard. The last tec breakpoint for the bow is 38. Last Non-land walk breakpoint is 35. Don't bother with high/ high alpha tunes if you have spare slots. Don't hp tune if you have abysmal tgh, instead tune tgh to 11 or 16. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:25 pm | |
| >don't tune hp with abysmal tgh
no.
All tgh does is lower damage over consecutive hits. This does nothing for you if your main damage comes from single high damage weapons. I'd choose HP over TGH any day. | |
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KidGlitch Ace Poster
Posts : 1703 Join date : 2013-02-22
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:38 pm | |
| - Trill wrote:
- >don't tune hp with abysmal tgh
no.
All tgh does is lower damage over consecutive hits. This does nothing for you if your main damage comes from single high damage weapons. I'd choose HP over TGH any day. This. | |
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Poppet Abbey Cry
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:33 pm | |
| - KidGlitch wrote:
- Trill wrote:
- >don't tune hp with abysmal tgh
no.
All tgh does is lower damage over consecutive hits. This does nothing for you if your main damage comes from single high damage weapons. I'd choose HP over TGH any day. This. More for resistance to stuns. Issue is if Kagura gets stunned she loses her bow charge which can lead to a stun locked scenario where you can't charge your bow leaving you defenseless. Having some more tgh over hp helps escape said stun locks and reduces the damage you would take from one. Helps even throwing up a lifesaving spirit barrier or trap that a stun could deny you of. Nothing wrong with going hp though, I just think it's in your better interest to forgo 20 hp to hit a tgh breakpoint. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Kagura Non-Homing Build. Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:57 pm | |
| - Poppet wrote:
- I just think it's in your better interest to forgo 20 hp to hit a tgh breakpoint.
most likely not | |
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